Is there an existing/preferred thread for sharing our (or critics’) favorite TV shows of the year?
― sctttnnnt (pgwp), Sunday, December 3, 2023 bookmarkflaglink
there's this: Your Ten Favorite Shows Currently on Television
but I wouldn't mind seeing a year-end thread like the movie and music threads that are started every year
― jaymc, Sunday, December 3, 2023 bookmarkflaglink
― sctttnnnt (pgwp), Sunday, 3 December 2023 16:18 (one year ago) link
New York Times Best Shows of 2023
Best ShowsThe BearBeefThe CurseDead RingersI’m a VirgoJury DutyThe Last of UsReservation DogsSouth SideSuccession
Honorable mention: Barry, Blue Eye Samurai, Dave, Happy Valley, How To with John Wilson, I Think You Should Leave, Killing It, Minx, Mrs Davis, Party Down, Scavengers Reign, The Traitors
Best International ShowsA Spy Among FriendsC.B. StrikeHappy ValleyOshi no KoParis Police 1905Slow HorsesSomewhere Boy30 CoinsWolf Like MeYogi, the Regretful Spy
Best Shows That EndedBarryDoom PatrolThe GreatHappy ValleyHow To with John WilsonThe Other TwoReservation DogsSingle Drunk FemaleSouth SideSuccession
Honorable mention: A Black Lady Sketch Show, Miracle Workers, Painting with John, Sex Education, Summer Camp Island
― sctttnnnt (pgwp), Sunday, 3 December 2023 16:36 (one year ago) link
Also Dave, The Great, The Other Two, Our Flag Means Death, Creamerie.
― Jordan s/t (Jordan), Sunday, 3 December 2023 16:39 (one year ago) link
Haven’t watched nearly as much tv this year as in the past but the answer is reservation dogs
― is he disgruntled adrian? (voodoo chili), Sunday, 3 December 2023 16:44 (one year ago) link
Oh and Fargo for sure, the way this season has kicked off
― Jordan s/t (Jordan), Sunday, 3 December 2023 16:49 (one year ago) link
Didn't even realise they'd finally aired the last few episodes of Doom Patrol
― groovypanda, Sunday, 3 December 2023 20:51 (one year ago) link
Is this a noms thread or are we just listing personal faves?
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Sunday, 3 December 2023 23:53 (one year ago) link
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Sunday, December 3, 2023 bookmarkflaglink
I made this thread to be a place to share critics lists and share your personal favorites—the latter likely more interesting than critics which will inevitably be variations on the same 10 or 12 shows.
Don’t mean for it to be redundant with any noms/polling. When does that happen? We can kill this thread if y’all think it’s repetitive
― sctttnnnt (pgwp), Monday, 4 December 2023 17:50 (one year ago) link
forks has historically run the TV polls but hasn't been around much this year and no one else felt like running the 2022 poll and I don't know if a 2023 poll will happen either. So.... here's the shows I really liked this year, in no particular order:
The Last of UsShrinkingSuccession S4I Think You Should Leave S3The Bear S2Foundation S2
― Vinnie, Monday, 4 December 2023 19:38 (one year ago) link
Oh yeah sorry I didnt mean to say we shouldnt do this! Just wanted to clarify.
I might as well put a list here then of what Ive enjoyed. ...I watch a lot of TV I think.
ST: strange New WorldsST: Lower DecksSiloLessons in ChemistryFor All MankindShetlandLokiPoker FaceOur Flag Means DeathBeefTed Lasso
Stuff that was ok enough I guessST: Picard S3AshokaHappy Valley (hadnt seen much of the prev season which didnt help)Jury DutyI think you should leaveUpload
Never saw:Succession, the Bear, Res Dogs (really must correct this one!)
Do Not Want: Hijack (cliched,boring), Gen V (wayyyy too gory)
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Tuesday, 5 December 2023 00:38 (one year ago) link
Dark Winds
― close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Tuesday, 5 December 2023 00:49 (one year ago) link
Ooh! Yes, that was great, forgot about that one.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Tuesday, 5 December 2023 00:58 (one year ago) link
I've finished reading Wool and Shift of the Silo trilogy, but want to read Dust before seeing the TV show
― Dan S, Tuesday, 5 December 2023 01:49 (one year ago) link
mine, including shows that are still airing/I haven't finished catching up on:
Good: Barry s4D.P. s2 (S. Korean)DeadlochDoctor Who specials (still watching)For All Mankind s3 (still watching)Gannibal (Japanese)Gen VGood Omens s2Lockwood & Co.Loki s2Minx s2 (still watching)Moving (S. Korean)Our Flag Means Death s2 (still watching)Poker FaceReservation Dogs s3 (No. 1 for the year, easy)ShrinkingSlow Horses s3 (still watching)Succession s4The Bear s2The Fall of the House of UsherThe Last of Us
OK: Abbott Elementary s2 AhsokaBeefBlack Knight (S. Korean)Decoy (S. Korean)Heartstopper s2Lupin s3Sex Education s4SiloSwarmSweet Home s2 (S. Korean) (still watching and may end up in the below tier, so far not nearly as good as its first season)The Mandalorian s3The Revenant (S. Korean)
Bad/Did not finish/not for me: HijackTed Lasso s3The Continental The Glory (S. Korean)TreasonYou s4
― Roz, Tuesday, 5 December 2023 05:06 (one year ago) link
Dan: the Silo TV show only gets thru the first book I think?
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Tuesday, 5 December 2023 06:05 (one year ago) link
And god, wasn't Hijack bad?
But it will never top my ALL TIME WTF HATEWATCH: MANIFESTO. Dear god.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Tuesday, 5 December 2023 06:06 (one year ago) link
First couple of episodes of Hijack were dumb but enjoyable I thought but it got progressively more stupid and boring as it went along
would love to see Idris Elba in an actually good action movie, his charisma pretty much carried the whole thing
― Roz, Tuesday, 5 December 2023 06:20 (one year ago) link
I'm not entirely sure which series I've watched are from this year. Sandman, Old Man and Reacher were 2022 but I would have bet 2023.
Of the ones I'm sure of -
Amazing:Reservation Dogs
Not quite amazing but excellent:What We Do In The Shadows
Very Good but a step down from the previous season:Strange New WorldsThe Bear
Very good and a step up from the previous season:Poker Face
Good:The Last of Us
Just the right amount of trashy:Fall of the House of Usher
Fine but I don't really care:The PeripheralSilo
Bad and a step down from the previous season:Sweet Tooth
― papal hotwife (milo z), Tuesday, 5 December 2023 07:52 (one year ago) link
Not mentioned thusfar: Perry Mason
― grid yr lions (Pillbox), Tuesday, 5 December 2023 09:20 (one year ago) link
"Bodies," anyone?
I still have 2 episodes to go, so I don't know if they're going to stick the landing, but so far I'm happily mindfucked.
― Hideous Lump, Tuesday, 5 December 2023 09:36 (one year ago) link
forgot Yellowjackets s2 in my list earlier, which should be in its own category of pretty bad but watchable
― Roz, Tuesday, 5 December 2023 09:40 (one year ago) link
agreed on perry mason
tried reservation dogs and what we do in the shadows series and im not gonna neg the thread so lets leave it there
― close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Tuesday, 5 December 2023 09:56 (one year ago) link
Welcome To Wrexham (S2)The Bear (S2)BeefTelemarketers Succession (S4)
― Saxophone Of Futility (Michael B), Tuesday, 5 December 2023 11:50 (one year ago) link
Enjoyed the first 3 seasons of Fargo too as I missed it the first time around
― Saxophone Of Futility (Michael B), Tuesday, 5 December 2023 11:53 (one year ago) link
Stuff I enjoyed this year:
Time S2The Gilded Age S2For All Mankind S4The Crown S6A Nearly Normal FamilyThe Bear S2Love Has WonBoiling Point S1The ReckoningThe Gallows PoleWolfMarylandThe Lying Life of AdultsHappy Valley S3Succession S4KaleidoscopeThe Last of UsTed Lasso S3
Shows I started to watch but gave up partway through because they were too boring, incomprehensible or both:
BodiesThe Woman In The Wall
― lord of the rongs (anagram), Tuesday, 5 December 2023 13:18 (one year ago) link
My favorites this year:
The Bad Batch BarryThe BearThe DiplomatFargoFoundationInvasionJury DutyThe Last of Us Mrs. DavisThe Other TwoOur Flag Means DeathReservation DogsSomebody SomewhereSuccessionTop Chef What We Do in the ShadowsYellowjackets
― sctttnnnt (pgwp), Tuesday, 5 December 2023 15:27 (one year ago) link
About half the shows on EW’s list don’t seem to be on any others I’ve seen.
10. Judge Steve Harvey9. The Curse8. Harlem7. Bargain6. American Born Chinese5. The Bear4. Reservation Dogs3. Barry2. I’m a Virgo1. Succession
― sctttnnnt (pgwp), Thursday, 7 December 2023 08:00 (one year ago) link
wld happily take a not-quite-as-good Season 0
― bae (sic), Thursday, 7 December 2023 08:58 (one year ago) link
Dan: what do you think of the books? xpsI remember enjoying them at the time but reread them all after watching Silo and wasn't as impressed, especially with the later ones. Also, has anyone watched Beacon 23? (which is another Hugh Howey adaptation). Think it's on MGM+ which I didn't even know existed. Soooo many streaming channels
― groovypanda, Friday, 8 December 2023 09:12 (one year ago) link
Golden Globes TV Nominations:
BEST TELEVISION SERIES – DRAMA
1923 (Paramount+)
THE CROWN (Netflix)
THE DIPLOMAT (Netflix)
THE LAST OF US (HBO | Max)
THE MORNING SHOW (Apple TV+)
SUCCESSION (HBO | Max)
BEST TELEVISION SERIES – MUSICAL OR COMEDY
ABBOTT ELEMENTARY (ABC)
BARRY (HBO | Max)
THE BEAR (FX)
JURY DUTY (Amazon Freevee)
ONLY MURDERS IN THE BUILDING (Hulu)
TED LASSO (Apple TV+)
BEST TELEVISION LIMITED SERIES, ANTHOLOGY SERIES OR MOTION PICTURE MADE FOR TELEVISION
ALL THE LIGHT WE CANNOT SEE (Netflix)
BEEF (Netflix)
DAISY JONES & THE SIX (Prime Video)
FARGO (FX)
FELLOW TRAVELERS (Showtime)
LESSONS IN CHEMISTRY (Apple TV+)
BEST PERFORMANCE BY A FEMALE ACTOR IN A TELEVISION SERIES – DRAMA
HELEN MIRREN (1923)
BELLA RAMSEY (THE LAST OF US)
KERI RUSSELL (THE DIPLOMAT)
SARAH SNOOK (SUCCESSION)
IMELDA STAUNTON (THE CROWN)
EMMA STONE (THE CURSE)
BEST PERFORMANCE BY A MALE ACTOR IN A TELEVISION SERIES – DRAMA
BRIAN COX (SUCCESSION)
KIERAN CULKIN (SUCCESSION)
GARY OLDMAN (SLOW HORSES)
PEDRO PASCAL (THE LAST OF US)
JEREMY STRONG (SUCCESSION)
DOMINIC WEST (THE CROWN)
BEST PERFORMANCE BY A FEMALE ACTOR IN A TELEVISION SERIES – MUSICAL OR COMEDY
RACHEL BROSNAHAN (THE MARVELOUS MRS. MAISEL)
QUINTA BRUNSON (ABBOTT ELEMENTARY)
AYO EDEBIRI (THE BEAR)
ELLE FANNING (THE GREAT)
SELENA GOMEZ (ONLY MURDERS IN THE BUILDING)
NATASHA LYONNE (POKER FACE)
BEST PERFORMANCE BY A MALE ACTOR IN A TELEVISION SERIES – MUSICAL OR COMEDY
BILL HADER (BARRY)
STEVE MARTIN (ONLY MURDERS IN THE BUILDING)
JASON SEGEL (SHRINKING)
MARTIN SHORT (ONLY MURDERS IN THE BUILDING)
JASON SUDEIKIS (TED LASSO)
JEREMY ALLEN WHITE (THE BEAR)
BEST PERFORMANCE BY A FEMALE ACTOR IN A LIMITED SERIES, ANTHOLOGY SERIES, OR A MOTION PICTURE MADE FOR TELEVISION
RILEY KEOUGH (DAISY JONES & THE SIX)
BRIE LARSON (LESSONS IN CHEMISTRY)
ELIZABETH OLSEN (LOVE & DEATH)
JUNO TEMPLE (FARGO)
RACHEL WEISZ (DEAD RINGERS)
ALI WONG (BEEF)
BEST PERFORMANCE BY A MALE ACTOR IN A LIMITED SERIES, ANTHOLOGY SERIES, OR A MOTION PICTURE MADE FOR TELEVISION
MATT BOMER (FELLOW TRAVELERS)
SAM CLAFLIN (DAISY JONES & THE SIX)
JON HAMM (FARGO)
WOODY HARRELSON (WHITE HOUSE PLUMBERS)
DAVID OYELOWO (LAWMEN: BASS REEVES)
STEVEN YEUN (BEEF)
BEST PERFORMANCE BY A FEMALE ACTOR IN A SUPPORTING ROLE ON TELEVISION
ELIZABETH DEBICKI (THE CROWN)
ABBY ELLIOTT (THE BEAR)
CHRISTINA RICCI (YELLOWJACKETS)
J. SMITH-CAMERON (SUCCESSION)
MERYL STREEP (ONLY MURDERS IN THE BUILDING)
HANNAH WADDINGHAM (TED LASSO)
BEST PERFORMANCE BY A MALE ACTOR IN A SUPPORTING ROLE ON TELEVISION
BILLY CRUDUP (THE MORNING SHOW)
MATTHEW MACFADYEN (SUCCESSION)
JAMES MARSDEN (JURY DUTY)
EBON MOSS–BACHRACH (THE BEAR)
ALAN RUCK (SUCCESSION)
ALEXANDER SKARSGÅRD (SUCCESSION)
BEST PERFORMANCE IN STAND-UP COMEDY ON TELEVISION
RICKY GERVAIS (RICKY GERVAIS: ARMAGEDDON)
TREVOR NOAH (TREVOR NOAH: WHERE WAS I)
CHRIS ROCK (CHRIS ROCK: SELECTIVE OUTRAGE)
AMY SCHUMER (AMY SCHUMER: EMERGENCY CONTACT)
SARAH SILVERMAN (SARAH SILVERMAN: SOMEONE YOU LOVE)
WANDA SYKES (WANDA SYKES: I’M AN ENTERTAINER)
― sctttnnnt (pgwp), Monday, 11 December 2023 17:11 (one year ago) link
physically recoiled at the stand-up nominees
― kissinger on my list (voodoo chili), Monday, 11 December 2023 17:19 (one year ago) link
Yeah, that is a list of stand-up specials devised by people who don't pay any attention to stand-up specials.
― sctttnnnt (pgwp), Monday, 11 December 2023 18:04 (one year ago) link
Don't have too much to disagree with in the rest of the nominees. Glad to see The Diplomat get a shout-out - it was better than I expected it to be (despite a weak cliffhanger finale). I think both Daisy Jones and Poker Face are overrated but I'm not really going to complain too loudly about them.
I haven't seen Fellow Travelers or Lessons in Chemistry (though LiC is on my list and I'm rooting for it as a friend of mine directed a few episodes!).
I bailed on The Morning Show after its awful second season. Did season 3 improve or is this just critical inertia? I haven't heard anything good about All the Light We Cannot See so I'm surprised to see that. Also, Lawmen: Bass Reeves?? I haven't heard good or bad about it... but the title alone had me running from it.
― sctttnnnt (pgwp), Monday, 11 December 2023 18:12 (one year ago) link
main gripe for me is probably morning show-related, yeah. i've heard crudup is pretty good in it, though
― kissinger on my list (voodoo chili), Monday, 11 December 2023 18:17 (one year ago) link
he is tbf
― close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Monday, 11 December 2023 18:57 (one year ago) link
Poker Face is some classic comfort food TV, at its worst. at its best, it's pretty wonderful.
― omar little, Monday, 11 December 2023 19:00 (one year ago) link
I think if I treated Poker Face like an old-school, once-a-week show, I might have liked it better. I probably watched the whole season over two or three weeks and it got really tedious. Like, there is no real tension in this show - we see how the crime is committed, then we watch her very quickly figure out what we already saw. Every episode, same.
― sctttnnnt (pgwp), Monday, 11 December 2023 19:47 (one year ago) link
i binged watch twenty minutes and found it intensely irritating, coming on the heels iirc of finding glass onion similarly so after a very bright start
just not my vibe i guess
― close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Monday, 11 December 2023 21:36 (one year ago) link
I don't know if the Crown nomination is for the last bad season or the current bad season but maybe it's like a lifetime achievement thing? Did it get snubbed for the good seasons?
― Vinnie, Monday, 11 December 2023 22:05 (one year ago) link
If they’re nominating Fargo then I’d guess the Crown noms are for the current season. I
― sctttnnnt (pgwp), Monday, 11 December 2023 22:30 (one year ago) link
Xp to groovypanda regarding Silo: I finished listening to the audiobooks of Wool, Shift and Dust. I enjoyed them all, although Wool was clearly the best. I think that audiobooks, if they’re narrated well, can minimize some of the faults of plotting and writing. I still haven’t seen the show.
― Dan S, Monday, 11 December 2023 22:46 (one year ago) link
Forgot all about Abbott Elementary! Shame on me.
I really liked Lessons in Chemistry btw. It skates on the edge of "the Notebook" level chickflick schmaltz romance/drama, but is corrected well by its feminist undertones. Theres a whole episode narrated by a dog which on paper sounds like it should be dreadful but I CRIED.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Monday, 11 December 2023 23:03 (one year ago) link
Alan Sepinwall:
1. Reservation Dogs 2. The Bear3. Succession4. Poker Face5. The Last of Us6. Beef 7. Blue Eye Samurai8. Cunk on Earth9. Somebody Somewhere10. Party Down
― jaymc, Friday, 22 December 2023 20:19 (one year ago) link
The Curse, Succession S4, and Jury Duty really the only unqualified successes
Liked enough to watch all the way through but in the end felt success was mixed: The Last of Us, Party Down revival, I Think You Should Leave, The Other Two
Watched some of but didn't grab me enough to make me watch a lot: The Bear, Silo, Loki S2
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Saturday, 23 December 2023 04:43 (one year ago) link
There are 12 TV categories in the Golden Globes and the winners were:SuccessionThe BearSuccessionSuccessionThe BearThe BearSuccessionThe CrownBeefBeefBeefRicky Gervais: ArmageddonGlad I didn’t bother to watch.
― sctttnnnt (pgwp), Monday, 8 January 2024 05:42 (one year ago) link
Also it occurs to me that Succession is much, much funnier than The Bear.
― sctttnnnt (pgwp), Monday, 8 January 2024 06:43 (one year ago) link
gervais winning that was absolutely baffling. I'm not sure why Mulaney's latest wasn't in there because it was funnier than any of the other nominees, I'll blame the Foreign Press.
― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Monday, 8 January 2024 07:30 (one year ago) link
The list of noms in that category was laughable - the five most famous comedians to release specials last year, more like.
― sctttnnnt (pgwp), Monday, 8 January 2024 07:51 (one year ago) link
Mulaney was on Netflix too, right? Didn't really register until I saw people mentioning it last night that the category was created specifically to award Netflix
― Wack Snyder (Eric H.), Monday, 8 January 2024 14:23 (one year ago) link
i think mulaney isn't in there because not funny
― close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Monday, 8 January 2024 17:31 (one year ago) link
didn't stop any of the other nominees
― kissinger on my list (voodoo chili), Monday, 8 January 2024 17:33 (one year ago) link
According to this TV is the best.
https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2024/jan/08/one-of-the-greatest-actors-on-earth-went-home-empty-handed-all-the-shocks-from-the-golden-globes
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 8 January 2024 18:58 (one year ago) link
lots of bagging on Jo Koy as host but he was not appreciably worse than anyone else ever is at this thing, IMO.
― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Monday, 8 January 2024 21:06 (one year ago) link
Counterpoint: Yes, he was. I don't miss Gervais as host, but I do miss Fey and Poehler.
― jaymc, Monday, 8 January 2024 21:16 (one year ago) link
Is Barry Keoghan here? Where's Barry Keoghan seated? Where's your penis seated? Down front? That was the real star of the movie, Barry Keoghan's penis. If you haven't seen Saltburn, you probably have no idea what I'm talking about. So watch it, then you'll understand what I was talking about. And then right after that, watch Barbie. And then you're gonna be like, 'Something's missing.' And then watch Maestro, and you'll be like, 'Oh, there it is. It's on Bradley Cooper's face.' What? That's hilarious!
― Wack Snyder (Eric H.), Monday, 8 January 2024 21:20 (one year ago) link
― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Monday, January 8, 2024 4:06 PM bookmarkflaglink
nah, he was pretty next level bad. the issue was less the jokes (which, mind you, were still bad, but the jokes on the Globes usually are to varying degrees), but him getting hostile with the audience for not laughing. I can't stop repeating "WHAT? That's HILARIOUS!". and him letting the audience know he didn't write the jokes they weren't laughing at was also pretty funny.
the Barry Keoghan penis thing was weird
― Disco Biollante (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 9 January 2024 21:14 (eleven months ago) link
still thing nothing tops Seth MacFarlane's Oscar hosting as worst though
― Disco Biollante (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 9 January 2024 21:15 (eleven months ago) link
softening em up for a stewart lee stint
― close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Tuesday, 9 January 2024 21:17 (eleven months ago) link
I really liked Lessons in Chemistry btw. It skates on the edge of "the Notebook" level chickflick schmaltz romance/drama, but is corrected well by its feminist undertones.
Not just skates the line of romance schmaltz but also the line of progressive back-patting! But I was pretty wrapped up by the performances, the production, the story to mind too much
― Vinnie, Thursday, 11 January 2024 00:51 (eleven months ago) link
3/4 way through watching it and I utterly despise it. A show that pretends to feminism and social consciousness but judges its lead character on her ability to conform to 50s mores, fall in love, trust a man, be a good mom, be a success, look pretty, etc. Wants to have its cake and eat it too, inviting audiences to revel in the aesthetics and sweet simplicity of 50s life while remembering to tut the racism and sexism which was actually the engine of said "simplicity". And as a scientist I am intensely offended that "being sciency" means giving complicated names to everyday things, whereas good science is about simplicity and clear thought. Ugly trash for the self-satisfied complacent. Not directed at anyone who enjoys it, just at the pap this era of landfill binge TV is stuffing our streams with.
― assert (matttkkkk), Thursday, 11 January 2024 01:04 (eleven months ago) link
60s, whatever
― assert (matttkkkk), Thursday, 11 January 2024 01:05 (eleven months ago) link
sorry - that was over the top. People are allowed to enjoy things, I need to remember.
― assert (matttkkkk), Thursday, 11 January 2024 11:51 (eleven months ago) link
Nah I feel your take, matt, in spite of enjoying the ride. I get why you think the show judges her for not following trad mores but felt it was a little more complicated than that. but totally agree it is a have-its-cake-and-eat-it show. A lot of its social consciousness is shallow and feelgood and rings false for that era
― Vinnie, Thursday, 11 January 2024 12:10 (eleven months ago) link
matt i really enjoyed that post and im not ever likely to even watch it tbh
― close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Thursday, 11 January 2024 12:19 (eleven months ago) link