this thread prompted by watching Frequency (2000 - Caviezel) again the other day. just because it was on in a place I was in, I never liked the film the first time, but on second watch I realized the 'happy ending' is actually really fucked up.
the synopsis is that Caviezel's dad died fighting a fire when he was 6, and he's never truly processed it, but he realizes he can time travel in a sense by talking to his father in the past through a ham radio, thus helping to retroactively save his life.
Now, in butterfly effect fashion, his deeds cause some other things to get fucked up in the past, like a serial killer who'd been killed in the previous timeline being alive and killing more people. I had misremembered that Caviezel and his past-dad went back and stopped all of them, so that things were relatively restored. But they didn't!
his past-dad succeeded in preventing the first murder, but failed to stop the second one. So in the end, he gets his dad back 30+ years later, he gets his mom unmurdered by fixing the past, but someone who wasn't previously dead in that timeline, who probably lived a long life, is now murdered, and their family's life ruined.
how the fuck is THAT a happy ending? so....what other movies are like that? where the filmmaker presented this thing as a happy ending and you were like "the fuck, no it isn't!"
Marvel movies are not allowed.
― CEO Greedwagon (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 2 April 2024 23:00 (one year ago)
AI - I wish the kid was just still sitting on the bottom the ocean, that would've been a cooler ending
― Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 2 April 2024 23:05 (one year ago)
Terry Gilliam apparently believes that Brazil has a happy ending. Jonathan Pryce isn't convinced.
One thing Terry and I do disagree on is the ending – he sees it as optimistic, I think it’s horrible, an absolute nightmare. But then that’s partly the joy of the film, that it’s open to interpretation.
https://www.theguardian.com/culture/2023/dec/11/robert-de-niro-terry-gilliam-jonathan-pryce-brazil-plumber-python
― Wry & Slobby (Portsmouth Bubblejet), Tuesday, 2 April 2024 23:10 (one year ago)
More Gilliam:
And the happy ending is his parents get killed. That's the price for freedom from restrictions and interference I suppose.- Billy Dods, Monday, February 18, 2002the film ending with the kids parents dead was the first really fucked up downer ending i probably ever saw.- some dude, Monday, June 25, 2012I can never get over just how fucked up the ending is - imagine someone trying to get away w/ that now (except as some sort of misleading sequel tease).- Simon H., Monday, June 25, 2012
the film ending with the kids parents dead was the first really fucked up downer ending i probably ever saw.- some dude, Monday, June 25, 2012
I can never get over just how fucked up the ending is - imagine someone trying to get away w/ that now (except as some sort of misleading sequel tease).- Simon H., Monday, June 25, 2012
― visiting, Tuesday, 2 April 2024 23:38 (one year ago)
E.T.— Enemy alien escapes with vital Earth candy secrets
― President Keyes, Tuesday, 2 April 2024 23:43 (one year ago)
Red Dawn- America does not become a Communist country
Rambo III - the US cements its alliance with the Afghan mujahideen
― never invade Londonistan (Matt #2), Wednesday, 3 April 2024 00:11 (one year ago)
In Brazil the happy ending is explicitly fantasized by the main character, and in AI it's an illusion literally provided by a deus ex machina (a bit like Solaris), so I'd say there is a level of conscious ambiguity about how happy the endings are supposed to be unless the viewer is just watching and judging at a surface level.
― Halfway there but for you, Wednesday, 3 April 2024 00:14 (one year ago)
The Breakfast Club— the incel who brought a gun to school ends alone while everyone else hooks up
― President Keyes, Wednesday, 3 April 2024 00:18 (one year ago)
The AI ending is really fucked up taken at face value!
― subpost master (wins), Wednesday, 3 April 2024 00:19 (one year ago)
Like, deliberately, in a good way
― subpost master (wins), Wednesday, 3 April 2024 00:20 (one year ago)
Yeah
― Make Me Smile (Come Around and See Me) (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 3 April 2024 00:21 (one year ago)
Some people don’t like but…
To me it’s a dreadlock holiday situation
― Make Me Smile (Come Around and See Me) (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 3 April 2024 00:22 (one year ago)
Bigger Than Life (1956): James Mason must either give up the drug that saved his life, or find a way to live with said drug's side effects (which nearly destroyed his family).
Possibly does not count, because director Ray has to have known this was a terrible set of options.
― Infanta Terrible (j.lu), Wednesday, 3 April 2024 17:55 (one year ago)
In Scrooged the ghost of a homeless person who froze to death cheers because his death facilitated a yuppie experiencing an almost completely incoherent revelation about the meaning of Christmas
― hiroyoshi tins in (Sgt. Biscuits), Wednesday, 3 April 2024 17:59 (one year ago)
about as happy as you can expect from a Michael O'Donoghue script
― President Keyes, Wednesday, 3 April 2024 18:04 (one year ago)
Dune (1984)
from Wikipedia: Paul demonstrates his newfound powers and fulfills the Fremen prophecy by causing rain to fall on Arrakis.
however there's a tiny problem with that: it kills the sandworms, ending spice production because the sandworms are integral to that, ends practical interstellar travel, and effectively causes the collapse of human civilisation
― you gotta roll with the pączki to get to what's real (snoball), Wednesday, 3 April 2024 18:09 (one year ago)
re ET, AI, Dune, I wonder who would win in a three-way shootout of movies with ostensibly happy but fucked up endings between Spielberg, Kubrick, and Lynch?
Nicole Kidman telling Tom Cruise, "Git yer boots on cowboy, it's humpy pumpy time!" feels like a top contender...
― Philip Nunez, Wednesday, 3 April 2024 18:19 (one year ago)
the parents in Time Bandits sucked, so them getting vaporized and Kevin being free to do whatever he feels like IS a happy ending, we loved it as kids
― the absence of bikes (f. hazel), Wednesday, 3 April 2024 18:23 (one year ago)
From the images from pop culture that frightened you as a child thread:
oh man, Time Bandits seconded. just when i thought that the kid who was like, EXACTLY MY AGE AND SEEMED TO SHARE MY SENSIBILITES would find some relief at the end, he's left alone...completely alone probably forever and ever! that creeped me out to no end.― andrew m. (andrewmorgan), Thursday, March 9, 2006Yeah. Just that part where the parents touch the evil thing and disappear freaked me out enough about Time Bandits.― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Thursday, March 9, 2006Yeah, also with Time Bandits. the face coming at the camera, etc. But the kid losing his parents at the end made me never watch the flick ever again.― kingfish da notorious teletabby (kingfish 2.0), Thursday, March 9, 2006
Yeah. Just that part where the parents touch the evil thing and disappear freaked me out enough about Time Bandits.― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Thursday, March 9, 2006
Yeah, also with Time Bandits. the face coming at the camera, etc. But the kid losing his parents at the end made me never watch the flick ever again.― kingfish da notorious teletabby (kingfish 2.0), Thursday, March 9, 2006
― Kim Kimberly, Friday, 23 August 2024 18:57 (one year ago)
That's an explicit bad ending, no? Unless you view his parents as representing conformity and then now he is FREE, but I don't think that's how the movie plays it.
I often think of Gilliam now as a relic that should be stowed away, and lord knows his personal behaviour does him no favours, but this is still such a perfect movie.
― Daniel_Rf, Friday, 23 August 2024 19:29 (one year ago)
iirc "now he is FREE" as happy ending was Gilliam's intention and many see it that way (see f. hazel's post just above).
― Kim Kimberly, Friday, 23 August 2024 19:44 (one year ago)
Hmmm, my memory is of the child actor looking very lost and scared as the camera pans out, in terms of ahem ahem filmic language I remember it feeling anything but happy.
I'm sure viewer's relations to their parents are a factor here too.
― Daniel_Rf, Friday, 23 August 2024 20:59 (one year ago)
I guess Papillon was supposed to be an optimistic ending, but still involved a worn-down Steve McQueen jumping off a cliff floating on a bag of coconuts
― Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 23 August 2024 21:11 (one year ago)