Russel Hoban - C or D

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There's a nice profile of Hoban in today's Guardian which reminds how much I love him - "The Medusa Frequency", "Kleinzeit", "Ridley Walker" and "Pilgerman" are all absolutely extraordinary. I still sometimes think "The Trokeville Way" one of the very greatest children's books ever written. Does anyone else have any opinions on this man?

chris browning (commonswings), Saturday, 23 November 2002 15:58 (twenty-three years ago)

BEYOND THE LAST VISIBLE DOG!!!

The Caws of Art remind me of Momus (in a good way!!)

As a teen I didn't get so well w.Kleinzeit and Pilgermann: ie I preferred his kid books (= The Mouse and his Child) to his teen books — but that wz bbz I had an army of adults nagging me to "put away childish things" and grow up. (Luckily/unfortunately I encountered punk rock and went off at an unexpected tangent...)

mark s (mark s), Saturday, 23 November 2002 16:02 (twenty-three years ago)

I'm with Chris all the way on his choices, except I haven't read The Trokeville Way. I care a bit less for Turtle Diary or (the most recent I read) Angelica's Grotto, but I love those strange older works.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Saturday, 23 November 2002 16:41 (twenty-three years ago)

LAST VISIBLE DOG

I was wondering what that phrase is a reference to (there's a small but worthy label of that name in the US, specializes in a variety of dark folk/drone stuff).

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 23 November 2002 17:05 (twenty-three years ago)

I've never read any of the children's books, but I am very fond of Riddley Walker. I also read Pilgerman, The Lion of Boaz-Jachin and Jachin-Boaz, and I think Kleinzeit, but they didn't come close to Riddley Walker. I think I like the way the slightly opaque language of Riddley Walker fits the subject matter so well, "thinking on that thing whats in us lorn and loan and oansome."

I've never been able to get anyone else to read this book.

Rockist Scientist, Saturday, 23 November 2002 17:18 (twenty-three years ago)

http://www.logan.com/loganberry/kids-hoban-frances.gif

Classic!

rosemary (rosemary), Saturday, 23 November 2002 17:35 (twenty-three years ago)

lillian hoban died in 1998 :(

she illustrated the two frances books and the mouse and his child: i tried to find some of her piXoRz from MahC, but so far didn't

she taught modern dance until she had a child (w.RH) then taught herself to draw!! blimey!!

mark s (mark s), Saturday, 23 November 2002 17:46 (twenty-three years ago)

oh! i didn't know who this was until rosemary's post - haven't thought about that frances book for a quarter century or so but loved it at the time. must look into those other titles sometime (again: you all seem to have read 50x more kids books than i did! but then you've also read 50x more grownup books i guess)

jones (actual), Saturday, 23 November 2002 18:14 (twenty-three years ago)

seven years pass...

Just read Fremder today and loved it, maybe more than Riddley Walker.

The reverse TARDIS of pasta (Niles Caulder), Sunday, 20 December 2009 12:28 (sixteen years ago)

have only ever read ridley walker, ages ago, and loved it. thx for the tip on fremder

a dimension that can only be accessed through self-immolation (contenderizer), Sunday, 20 December 2009 12:34 (sixteen years ago)

Haven't read Fremder, but I love Riddley Walker and Kleinzeit. Oh and Mr. Rinyo-Clacton's Offer, that was good fun.

We should have called Suzie and Bobby (NickB), Sunday, 20 December 2009 12:45 (sixteen years ago)

two years pass...

this guy rules, i can't believe i'd never read anything by him until last May. He clearly has his hobbyhorses, but manages to come at them from such different ways in each novel that i don't care that he can't stop writing about trying to change the story or Orpheus or whatever. The Medusa Frequency even managed to overcome my distaste for books where the protagonist has writer's block.

JoeStork, Monday, 24 September 2012 07:22 (thirteen years ago)

Kleinzeit was the first novel by him I ever read and it was transformative, for me, in a lot of ways. Big fan, still haven't read 75% of his books though.

akm, Monday, 24 September 2012 17:36 (thirteen years ago)

i still haven't read any of his grown-up books, but 'bread and jam for frances' is adorable and classic forever.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Monday, 24 September 2012 19:44 (thirteen years ago)

one month passes...

"What do you do when you're wound up?" she asked. "Do you play that drum?"
"No," said the child. "We used to dance."
"But now we walk," said the father. "And behind us an enemy walks faster."

JoeStork, Wednesday, 31 October 2012 07:50 (thirteen years ago)

wait are you fucking kidding me, Russell Hoban is Bread and Jam for Frances? Li'l man Aero thought that book was the fucking business circa 1972 and then fifteen years later I loved Ridley Walker but I had no idea

fuckin A

Inconceivable (to the entire world) (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 23:30 (thirteen years ago)

jam is sticky, jam is sweet, jam is tasty, jam's a treat, raspberry, strawberry, gooseberry, i'm VERY...

fond!
of!
jam!

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 23:41 (thirteen years ago)

otm

mookieproof, Wednesday, 31 October 2012 23:46 (thirteen years ago)

very otm

will i ever read this aloud again? *feels sad*

too soon (Hunt3r), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 23:58 (thirteen years ago)

wait are you fucking kidding me, Russell Hoban is Bread and Jam for Frances? Li'l man Aero thought that book was the fucking business circa 1972 and then fifteen years later I loved Ridley Walker but I had no idea

yeah, when I realised this it blew my mind

ornamental cabbage (James Morrison), Thursday, 1 November 2012 01:51 (thirteen years ago)

five months pass...

i just finished 'the mouse and his child.' i am torn between blinding love for this book and a vague, nagging sense of unease at the idea that little kids might actually read it.

beautiful illustrations by lillian hoban, too.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-13Dh-EEX990/TcwRpWyG0qI/AAAAAAAAFXM/qkLGTSvdiJo/s1600/MouseandhisChild.jpg

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Tuesday, 16 April 2013 00:15 (twelve years ago)

Such an incredible book, but yeah, in particular the part when the shrews massacre each other and the weasel couple comes to the battlefield to have lunch is a level of horror/comedy that I would not feel comfortable introducing to a child.

JoeStork, Tuesday, 16 April 2013 00:57 (twelve years ago)


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