Stability is change: crossing the floor from potato to potahto in uk 2024

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Get in here, loons

subpost master (wins), Wednesday, 22 May 2024 20:16 (five months ago) link

Very good

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 22 May 2024 20:17 (five months ago) link

Oddly starting this with Mason news.

Breaking: ISLINGTON NORTH Labour shortlist Sem Moema . Praful Nargund

— lee harpin (@lmharpin) May 22, 2024

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 22 May 2024 20:18 (five months ago) link

breaking: stoya cancelling travel plans

katy perry (prison service) (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 22 May 2024 20:20 (five months ago) link

From The Guardian blog quoting a tweet by a pol analyst:

Was in Westminster all day. Understand there’s 5 major reasons for @RishiSunak July 4 election gamble

1/ Key aides told PM inflation is now at its “election sweet spot” - 2.3% was today’s print - & warned it may rise again by autumn

2/ No fiscal space for NI cuts in Sept 1/

3/ Concern legal challenges will further delay/block flights to Rwanda taking off

4/ Mess in the English Channel with small boats during the summer months

5/ Nigel Farage hasn’t yet decided whether to front Reform UK, so snap poll may boost Tory prospects

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 22 May 2024 20:34 (five months ago) link

Praful Nargund?

I've left the box of soup near your shoes (Tom D.), Wednesday, 22 May 2024 20:35 (five months ago) link

if they won't accept Comrade Mason they should offer a spot to Dunty

https://x.com/IanDunt/status/1793343773667480015

Bitchin Doutai (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 22 May 2024 20:41 (five months ago) link

truly the most perfect idiot in the whole world, a brain as smooth as his scalp

katy perry (prison service) (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 22 May 2024 20:48 (five months ago) link

Nargund is a private IVF clinic chief executive, who really cares about healthcare inequities

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 22 May 2024 20:54 (five months ago) link

Dunt isn't an idiot, he just plays one for money.

glumdalclitch, Wednesday, 22 May 2024 23:38 (five months ago) link

Mason the early Starmer adopter, most consistent apologist/obsequious toady towards him for almost 5 years and all he gets in return is one humiliating rejection after another - which is all he deserves tbf.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 23 May 2024 05:59 (five months ago) link

I am sorry Tom D you will not be able to vote for this man

I didn't make the shortlist in @IslingtonNorth . Thanks to all those in the CLP who signed up to campaign for me, and to SERA for endorsing me. It's vital that we get out the vote the selected candidate, and keep Islington North red! ✊

— Paul Mason (@paulmasonnews) May 23, 2024

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 23 May 2024 07:01 (five months ago) link

No-one likes him he does care.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtTdQm57_MU

I've left the box of soup near your shoes (Tom D.), Thursday, 23 May 2024 07:20 (five months ago) link

100 empty spots to fill, keep on keeping on Paul

Bitchin Doutai (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 23 May 2024 07:28 (five months ago) link

If he wasn't such a weirdo who likes making a shit ton of noise he would've got into one of those.

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 23 May 2024 08:05 (five months ago) link

as well as being a foolish and deeply unlikable man I don't think he's ever been forgiven by the right for his supporting Corbyn years.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 23 May 2024 08:09 (five months ago) link

Yeah there's no place in today's Labour for people whose politics change with the wind to support their own personal aggrandisement

Bitchin Doutai (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 23 May 2024 08:12 (five months ago) link

that's what they'll throw at Starmer, he can offer evidence that he helped finish off Corbyn by quoting the "People's Vote was a conspiracy" parts of the Eagleton book!

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 23 May 2024 08:17 (five months ago) link

he's an embarrassment because he actually believes things, even if he has forced himself to believe them to fit in. I remember a kid like him at school.

This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 23 May 2024 08:18 (five months ago) link

No Rwanda flights till after the election. If Reform get their act together its even worse for the Tories.

It also means a very grim debate where Starmer has to promise deportations of sone kind.

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 23 May 2024 08:25 (five months ago) link

Getting suicide-by-cop vibes from all of this, like Sunak is pleading with the election to put him out of his misery.

I've left the box of soup near your shoes (Tom D.), Thursday, 23 May 2024 08:37 (five months ago) link

the guy just wants a long summer break in california so he can pick out a house, move there ASAP, and die horribly in the record-breaking wildfires of 2028 enjoy a long and happy life

katy perry (prison service) (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 23 May 2024 08:47 (five months ago) link

maybe it was just a case of lose a suicide-election in the summertime or lose a confidence vote and resign

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 23 May 2024 08:54 (five months ago) link

The calculations are that Rwanda flights will never get off the ground, that inflation might go up (so no interest rate cuts), and that they cannot offer anything but tax rises bcz of the state of public finances.

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 23 May 2024 08:57 (five months ago) link

to gazzara's point, the domiciled tax status laws are getting changed next year yeah?

Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 23 May 2024 08:58 (five months ago) link

the way he brought up the furlough scheme yesterday seemed desperate, it was almost like he was inferring he paid it all out of his own pocket.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 23 May 2024 09:05 (five months ago) link

it was like in the manner of a slimy boss giving you a tiny inconsequential pay rise and then never letting you forget about it

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 23 May 2024 09:12 (five months ago) link

The only time the guy was popular is when he gave lots of people money.

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 23 May 2024 09:24 (five months ago) link

also when he gave us rona dinners

Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 23 May 2024 09:30 (five months ago) link

How soon we forget "dishy Rishi".

I've left the box of soup near your shoes (Tom D.), Thursday, 23 May 2024 09:38 (five months ago) link

eat out to help out just a porn video name to most people now

Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 23 May 2024 09:39 (five months ago) link

a furlough scheme that was actually proposed and pushed for by McDonnell iirc and which sunak was originally dead set against…

bingo dabber acid, Thursday, 23 May 2024 11:44 (five months ago) link

and a furlough scheme which deliberately excluded hundreds of thousands of self-employed people, my wife being among them

katy perry (prison service) (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 23 May 2024 11:50 (five months ago) link

xp
to me there's no question that if Corbyn and McDonnell hadn't been at the despatch box in early 2020 we would never have got the furlough measures we did get, flawed as they were

glumdalclitch, Thursday, 23 May 2024 12:08 (five months ago) link

Quietly impressed by The Green Party response here. Has the right people crying about it.

Nothing to see here. Just @TheGreenParty⁩ leader on Radio 4 failing to condemn one of her fellow Green candidates for liking a post which said "we have to destroy Zionism". And she has the chutzpah to refer to the EHRC report into Labour's antisemitism to boot. What a state. pic.twitter.com/QrAo4fynZz

— Mike Katz (@mikekatz) May 23, 2024

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 23 May 2024 12:28 (five months ago) link

From a locked acc:

"On Politics Weekly, Kiran explains that Sunak would rather get drenched than be compared to noted brolly loser Steve McLaren. Optics discourse is incredible"

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 23 May 2024 12:46 (five months ago) link

Union Jack gazebos are a thing:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/165496541979

Grandpont Genie, Thursday, 23 May 2024 15:36 (five months ago) link

behold, the Racism Cube

katy perry (prison service) (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 23 May 2024 15:43 (five months ago) link

Don't let Starmer know or he'll be doing his press conferences from inside one.

Poets Win Prizes (Tom D.), Thursday, 23 May 2024 15:48 (five months ago) link

he already is, psychically

Bitchin Doutai (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 23 May 2024 16:42 (five months ago) link

dismal

Keir Starmer needs you to vote for Reform on July 4th.

A vote for Reform is a vote to put Keir Starmer into power. pic.twitter.com/CGVoo5snGc

— Conservatives (@Conservatives) May 23, 2024

katy perry (prison service) (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 23 May 2024 17:21 (five months ago) link

in fairness his politics are more or less identical to theirs

Bitchin Doutai (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 23 May 2024 17:23 (five months ago) link

And I would have got away with it if it hadn't been for you meddling Conservative Party Central Office political advisers.

Poets Win Prizes (Tom D.), Thursday, 23 May 2024 17:26 (five months ago) link

A more abstract approach would be better: "vote Labour, you get Starmer as pm" with Starmer getting a Starmer mask yanked off, revealing that this confirms that he is indeed Starmer.

^^
I'm giving this one for free, if my name was saatchi & saatchi I could charge millions for this shit!

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 23 May 2024 17:49 (five months ago) link

I like that, you'll go far in this game

Nasty, Brutish & Short, Thursday, 23 May 2024 17:50 (five months ago) link

Still an opportunity for Paul Mason

NEW
 
Conservative HQ have emailed asking for candidates in almost 100 seats
 
When candidates ask when the deadline is, they have been told it’s 48 hours, according to 2 I’ve spoken to
 
Some Tory associations are pretty livid at having been left in such an unprepared situation pic.twitter.com/baBLr6TiMK

— Paul McNamara (@PGMcNamara) May 23, 2024

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 23 May 2024 21:26 (five months ago) link

lol, only a matter of time before serial carpetbagger Mason declares that the only way to advance the class struggle is by running as a Tory candidate.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 24 May 2024 00:40 (five months ago) link

Islington North too, he could run against Corbyn after all!

Poets Win Prizes (Tom D.), Friday, 24 May 2024 06:31 (five months ago) link

Excited for the Lab right focusing a proportionate amount of time and attention on this.

xyzzzz__, Friday, 24 May 2024 07:59 (five months ago) link

Stafford Cripps had her number. In parliament he referred to her as "our honourable member for Berlin". I mean, imagine the reaction if Jez had a portrait of her in his office.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 24 October 2024 15:24 (one week ago) link

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2024/oct/24/uks-borrowing-costs-rise-on-news-that-reeve-is-changing-fiscal-rules

“It seems to be related to Reeves last night suggesting that the fiscal rules would be rewritten to increase spending on infrastructure,” Lyn Graham-Taylor, a senior rates strategist at Rabobank, told Reuters.

the idea that these bullshit fiscal rules were set in stone/non-negotiable as Reeves had been saying up to now was just such a fucking pointless and ultimately harmful self-restriction to put on a "change" govt. I guess she has been told as much.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 24 October 2024 17:34 (one week ago) link

created her own story that will cast this (theoretically) positive investment in the worst possible light - as a reversal, another "promise" broken. this is really huge-brained politics, absolutely masterful, grown-up stuff

Book ChancemaN (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 24 October 2024 18:03 (one week ago) link

there was an economist I listened to the other week, who was a former Bernie adviser and was talking about how regressive the UK Labour govt's fiscally hawkish deficit obsessed mindset is. She put it simply for an economics moron like me + said basically it's a historically antiquated gold standard era mindset, that doesn't belong here, like they don't have to find/produce the gold to pay for national infrastructure/healthcare/public services etc.. that's not how it works. And 14 years of that shit, you don't need to be a hotshot LSE grad to know that this has been a major fail, on every fucking metric - apart from if you belong in the top few %.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 24 October 2024 19:15 (one week ago) link

This kind of thing makes me fume, people responsible should be in jail.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2024/oct/25/council-destroys-missing-tenants-belongings-after-banning-his-family-from-flat

John Backflip (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 25 October 2024 10:28 (one week ago) link

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2024/oct/25/new-uk-freeports-budget-labour-starmer?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other

More favours for their corporate donors.

Critics of freeports say there is little evidence they attract new investment or help the economy. The Office for Budget Responsibility said in 2021 that tax breaks in England’s freeports would cost the government £50m a year and that their impact on GDP was likely to be so small it would be “difficult to discern even in retrospect”.

Trade unions have in the past called for clarity on how freeports impact on workers’ and union rights. The prime minister’s spokesperson said that “where necessary the government will make improvements to the freeport programme” and that the employment rights bill would help safeguard workers’ rights.

glumdalclitch, Friday, 25 October 2024 14:37 (one week ago) link

Labour MP illustrates Labour attitude to the electorate in awkward symbolism shocker

🚨 BREAKING: Labour has suspended Mike Amesbury after CCTV showed him sucker punching a constituent pic.twitter.com/t9PMJ5d5Sg

— Politics UK (@PolitlcsUK) October 27, 2024

Book ChancemaN (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 27 October 2024 18:41 (one week ago) link

No no nv. Political discourse in this country has been so eroded and divisive . MPs absolutely must be protected from the violence of some of these elements.

oscar bravo, Sunday, 27 October 2024 20:16 (one week ago) link

They're gonna parachute fucking Ashworth in here aren't they?

I bet Paul Mason's got his A2Z out already

Book ChancemaN (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 27 October 2024 20:21 (one week ago) link

put him in a cage with mike hookem

Bernard Quidbins (NickB), Sunday, 27 October 2024 20:42 (one week ago) link

Lookalike: Otto and Wes.

From the Private Eye Annual 2024, out now.

The year's best cartoons, jokes, parodies and topical sketches from the UK's most successful satirical news and current affairs magazine, illustrated throughout with cartoons, sketches and photo-bubbles. 📕 In… pic.twitter.com/o3fJOTjRiF

— Private Eye Magazine (@PrivateEyeNews) October 28, 2024

guillotine vogue (suzy), Monday, 28 October 2024 19:10 (one week ago) link

That’s Otto Pilot from Airplane for those who don’t want to follow the link.

guillotine vogue (suzy), Monday, 28 October 2024 19:11 (one week ago) link

Another local, who didn't want to be named, said Mr Amesbury drank regularly with his friends in Frodsham and was often 'p***** up' in local bars.

This story is the gift that keeps giving.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14011613/MP-Mike-Amesbury-arguing-constituent-closure-bridge-punch.html

The count has shot himself (Tom D.), Monday, 28 October 2024 20:22 (one week ago) link

Oops, wrong thread!

The count has shot himself (Tom D.), Monday, 28 October 2024 20:26 (one week ago) link

This story is the gift that keeps giving.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14011613/MP-Mike-Amesbury-arguing-constituent-closure-bridge-punch.html

― The count has shot himself (Tom D.), Monday, 28 October 2024 bookmarkflaglink

Quality intake of MPs.

xyzzzz__, Monday, 28 October 2024 21:12 (one week ago) link

This bus fare cap lift is hilarious, they are so cooked.

If you want an idea of why removing the £2 bus fare cap may be so damaging beyond polls, read Greg's quote from our focus group. At a time of deep political distrust it's one of few recent examples of a policy people can point to that tangibly improves their lives for the better pic.twitter.com/HBacQdz3ww

— Luke Tryl (@LukeTryl) October 28, 2024

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 29 October 2024 13:47 (one week ago) link

it does seem like the act of someone who doesn't use buses

koogs, Tuesday, 29 October 2024 14:04 (one week ago) link

and hates poor people and universality

Book ChancemaN (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 29 October 2024 15:12 (one week ago) link

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2024/oct/29/hard-hit-defra-to-have-budget-slashed-further-despite-warnings

At Defra, these cuts are understood to largely fall on nature and flood protections. Plans to cut about £100m a year from England’s nature-friendly farming budget have been proposeed. As part of the EU, British farmers were allotted funding based on how much land they managed. The new post-Brexit scheme is financed by the UK government and pays farmers to protect nature. As 60% of land in England is farmed, this scheme is supposed to be the main driver in reducing species decline and restoring nature.

Reed has also refused to commit to flooding payments promised by the Conservatives, and Defra insiders have indicated this money is to be shaved back. As it stands, the Defra budget faces cuts of at least 20%, according to sources at the department.

Elliot Chapman-Jones, head of public affairs at The Wildlife Trusts, said: “Defra’s funding was slashed during austerity, hampering its ability to protect nature and stop river pollution. Nature is dying and without a substantial increase in funding – particularly for nature-friendly farming – the government’s target to halt nature’s decline by the end of the decade will be unachievable.”

Merrily destroying nature and the habitable environment to project "common sense" to the press who will them them anyway

glumdalclitch, Tuesday, 29 October 2024 16:22 (one week ago) link

*will hate them anyway

glumdalclitch, Tuesday, 29 October 2024 16:23 (one week ago) link

the £3 billion annual cost of extending the 5p fuel duty cut is roughly equivalent to the annual fare take of every bus in England — £3.1 billion in 2023. so you could nearly make every bus free for the same cost https://t.co/1bWvqcYVx8

— Jon Stone (@joncstone) October 30, 2024

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 30 October 2024 19:25 (six days ago) link

not even any comedy value here

Book ChancemaN (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 2 November 2024 11:09 (three days ago) link

in a result that's surprised nobody

Book ChancemaN (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 2 November 2024 11:10 (three days ago) link

The result was obvious as soon as they walked in the room, Badenoch smirking and Jenrick looking like he was about to burst into tears.

biting your uncles (Tom D.), Saturday, 2 November 2024 11:10 (three days ago) link

looking forward to some big thinkpieces about identity and representation which will be bollocks but will also tell some truths about the Labour Party

Book ChancemaN (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 2 November 2024 11:12 (three days ago) link

anyway, stoked for the sadness

badder living thru Kemistry (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 2 November 2024 11:18 (three days ago) link

Can't wait to have proper fascism, none of this briefcase bollocks.

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 2 November 2024 11:46 (three days ago) link

Apparently, even before the result was announced, there was a lot of chat among Tories about who is actually going to fight the next election. The assumption being it'll be Cleverley and that's why he isn't going to take up a Shadow Cabinet role.

biting your uncles (Tom D.), Saturday, 2 November 2024 11:49 (three days ago) link

Might be a fun bet on neither of the current leaders to be there at the next GE

badder living thru Kemistry (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 2 November 2024 11:51 (three days ago) link

If Tories do well at the next council elections she could be their candidate at the next GE?

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 2 November 2024 11:58 (three days ago) link

She's got to survive for 5 years, I don't see that happening.

biting your uncles (Tom D.), Saturday, 2 November 2024 11:59 (three days ago) link

What do you think she will do so that Tory MPs get rid of her?

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 2 November 2024 12:10 (three days ago) link

Look like she's not going to win the next election.

biting your uncles (Tom D.), Saturday, 2 November 2024 12:15 (three days ago) link

Anyway, there's plenty of time for things to go wrong especially if people were plotting who will be your successor before you were even crowned!

biting your uncles (Tom D.), Saturday, 2 November 2024 12:18 (three days ago) link

Look like she's not going to win the next election.

― biting your uncles (Tom D.), Saturday, 2 November 2024 bookmarkflaglink

The government is polling badly already. If Tories perform a bit more strongly at council level, and the base feels energized she will contest the GE.

But yeah its a long way to go, she is not exactly very bright

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 2 November 2024 12:27 (three days ago) link

if she can put together a pact with Reform then she's basically got it in the bag already. All that's left is for Labour to tack even further to the right to try to keep up.

John Backflip (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 2 November 2024 12:35 (three days ago) link

Pacts with Reform will require political skill to pull off. Huge opportunity for the next Tory leader in five years.

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 2 November 2024 12:40 (three days ago) link

if badenoch ends up being utterly hopeless as leader it'll probably just be farage who benefits? labour's best hope is probably just for reform to keep splitting the vote enough to damage the tories without actually being able to win much

ufo, Saturday, 2 November 2024 12:41 (three days ago) link

The government has a majority of 174, they're not going anywhere for five years, not sure the fact that they're polling badly afer four months is telling us all that much tbh.

biting your uncles (Tom D.), Saturday, 2 November 2024 12:51 (three days ago) link

I don't disagree the government will stay in for five years.

In terms of opposition, though, polling can be an indicator. If the Tories and Lab are equal now, then Badenoch has a lot of breathing room as opposed to IDS or whatever ghoul they had as leader.

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 2 November 2024 13:01 (three days ago) link

I'm struggling to imagine a scenario where the Tories and Reform - or a good chunk of their voters at least - don't engineer a rapprochement at the next GE

badder living thru Kemistry (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 2 November 2024 13:18 (three days ago) link

A lot of today's sophisticated racists can also clearly deal with a black leader if she offers them the right policies

badder living thru Kemistry (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 2 November 2024 13:20 (three days ago) link

starmer tanking his own popularity pretty much immediately is a terrible sign for his ability to win the next election (unless he gets even luckier with how the right split themselves) & it's not like the party has any ideas that anyone will actually like. if things don't turn around some of the others in the party with ambition will try to force him out eventually, not that that will fix anything for them though.

ufo, Saturday, 2 November 2024 13:26 (three days ago) link

She’s in the fine tradition of being a jerk to people her supporters hate, and if the hated people are lefty Black and Asian people, so much the better for Tory members. I’ve heard lots of conservatives either side of the Atlantic use people like her to justify their own prejudices.

guillotine vogue (suzy), Saturday, 2 November 2024 13:29 (three days ago) link

a really stupid thing that feels way too likely now that i've thought of it is labour's genius strategists deliberately trying to boost farage's popularity so that the right-wing vote will be even more split, but this would very likely just backfire and end up with farage on top

ufo, Saturday, 2 November 2024 13:31 (three days ago) link

Anyway this is all for tomorrow.

Let's enjoy a Tory wife crying.

Robert Jenrick's wife thought she had applauded Kemi Badenoch enough - then realised she had to carry on… 😂 pic.twitter.com/ZIHxdB8BwO

— M A R T I N R O G E R S ⭐️ (@martinrogers92) November 2, 2024

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 2 November 2024 13:35 (three days ago) link

Lol tbf I usually get tired of clapping and tap out early in any situation

badder living thru Kemistry (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 2 November 2024 14:01 (three days ago) link

add James Dyson to the people complaining about the budget, unsurprisingly

koogs, Monday, 4 November 2024 08:26 (yesterday) link

The worst person you know etc.

Kemi Badenoch: "I find it astonishing that Rachel Reeves keeps talking about how she's the first female Chancellor, which is a very, very low-glass ceiling... which she may have smashed."#bbclaurak pic.twitter.com/HWM6T9mnY0

— Haggis_UK 🇬🇧 🇪🇺 (@Haggis_UK) November 3, 2024

xyzzzz__, Monday, 4 November 2024 10:43 (yesterday) link


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