U.S. Politics, November 2024: GARBAGE DAY!!

Either America's 250 year anniversary will be celebrated by its first female President, or its first felon, insurrectionist, and open admirer of Adolf Hitler

Who will America choose? Apparently it's a coinflip!!

For future ILX historians you may be witnessing the final five days of Donald Trump's political career. If not, things have gone horribly wrong, and I congratulate you for inventing the internet again.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypr18UmxOas

Final 5 days if he loses graciously and doesn't try to launch a coup.

Who is THAT jackwad, skipping like a dipshit?

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who is that jackwad amigo
why is he standing in a contractor bag poncho
with swastikas in his eyes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c1F2KHTIUug

He’s finally pivoting to the center

Trump on Liz Cheney: “Let's put her with a rifle standing there with 9 barrels shooting at her. Let's see how she feels about it. You know, when the guns are trained on her face." pic.twitter.com/ajy2wpysAU

— Republicans against Trump (@RpsAgainstTrump) November 1, 2024

This is obvious to everyone with a brain, but I’ll say it anyway: that is a fucking insane thing for a viable candidate for anything in the United States to gleefully say in public.

who is that jackwad amigo
why is he standing in a contractor bag poncho
with swastikas in his eyes

bodacious Proud Boys
such as your friend will never be welcome here

absolutely a despicable thing to say.

his supporters will say that this is just a version of, "if lynne cheney loves war so much, maybe she should fight it instead of sending others." so they will say this is an anti-war message.

he always leaves himself these little squirrel holes to get out of accountability.

liz cheney, sorry

Buttload of Faith: the 2016 Presidential Primary Thread (Pt 2)

first use of 'garbage country' on ilx, 11 December 2015

Little did we know

garbage country? what is this, the billboard top 100?!?!?

i don't like liz cheney but I certainly think it's bad for to publicly suggest she be shot to death in public. Trump on the other hand...

i love that cnn.com now puts all it's interesting news behind a paywall

She should take him to court over it. That’s a direct threat.

Getting shot at by a supporter really broke whatever there was left of his brain.

She should take him to court over it. That’s a direct threat.

Hunter Thompson used to tell a story about how during one of his drunken college "lectures", he said into a hot mic, "George Bush [senior] ought to be stomped to death, and I'll join in," and the Secret Service was at his front door the next morning.

Good Morning!

https://a57.foxnews.com/static.foxnews.com/foxnews.com/content/uploads/2024/10/1200/675/biden_chicken_bite.jpg?ve=1&tl=1

Biden like a trash dog eating chicken bones out the dumpster

I’m sorry, but I just burst out laughing at that

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― Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings)

He’s still got it

My family had a little black cat who was the sweetest thing ever 99.9% of the time but once dug a turkey carcass out of what we thought was a well-secured trash bin and when we tried to take it away from her, found her inner sabretoothed tiger.

props to table and jaymc, I got stuck at the first line last thread

the Cheney thing is insane but i actually think he is sincerely trying to do a "if this war-hawk found herself in a warzone" bit. still horrifyingly direct, and eye-popping from a rich-kid draft-dodger, and of course still likely to inspire his heavily armed, insane and conspiratorial supporters to attempt murder of a political rival. but for once the latter seems almost incidental out of sheer negligence.

I agree with you. On the other hand he can go fuck himself.

Are we still really at a point where Trump deserves generosity of interpretation? I don't think so.

'All hell has broken loose': Inside Elon Musk's high-stakes pro-Trump door-knocking effort

Nine Republican operatives and canvassers connected to the Elon Musk-backed America PAC told NBC News that they’re worried the high-profile grassroots operation on behalf of Donald Trump’s presidential bid may hamper his chances in states decided by slim margins.

America PAC has been tasked with much of the pro-Trump canvassing operation as his campaign focuses its efforts on a more limited effort targeting so-called low-propensity voters. In turn, the Musk-backed organization is going door to door in all of the major swing states to help turn out Trump supporters and have them fill out surveys about their voting intentions.

But the people who spoke to NBC News, many of whom have years of experience in GOP field operations, said the operation may not be the well-oiled machine many in the party might hope it is, especially considering how much money is behind the effort.

In particular, they raised concerns about canvassers’ submitting an inordinate amount of suspect data. That data, some of which NBC News has reviewed, includes entries submitted far from the home or while canvassers are logged into Wi-Fi networks — telltale signs that a door was not knocked on, sources said. In addition, a video explaining how to “spoof” one’s location while submitting data drew attention in Nevada and Arizona, raising further concerns.

“I know it’s been flagged for America PAC that this has been transpiring,” an operative formerly on the effort said.

As some of that data spilled into public view last month, an operative close to the effort said: “All hell has broken loose” inside the PAC.

...

Door-to-door canvassing, a major component of what is known as the “ground game,” can make a difference in elections that are determined by 1 percentage point or less. With this election shaping up as one in which many and potentially all of the seven major swing states could be decided by that tight margin, the Musk-backed effort could be at the front of the line for plaudits should he win — or topping the list of reasons he lost.

Those who spoke with NBC News ranged from on-the-ground canvassers to mid-level managers to senior operatives close to the PAC. They were granted anonymity to offer candid assessments and provide information without imperiling their professional prospects.

“There are enough bodies on the ground that there could still be, I think, a modicum of success,” the operative close to the effort said. “Maybe not quite the resounding success that Elon Musk was hoping he was investing in, but I do think that you can do a lot over” the final sprint.

That's a long piece but a fun read. Hire scammers, get scammed!

"the president of the united states once tried to take a bite out of my leg"

that baby now has an interesting fact to use in icebreakers and 2 truths and a lie for the rest of their life

The baby was really giddy!

biden giving that child an unbeatable "two truths and a lie" answer for the rest of their life https://t.co/uwLVr0YjhN

— icky! (@ickyburd) October 31, 2024

Great minds?

not even trying to be generous, that's just how it first landed to my ears. of course I am also a notorious Wiggum truther so ymmv. Alfred otm, to be clear.

they hired the people who used AllAdvantage in the early 2000s and installed their own app to move the mouse every 15 minutes so it looked like they were actively browsing.

xxxposts

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boss_key

used to love the horrible fake reports that would pop up on Pete Rose Baseball when you used the boss key, designed by someone who had never worked in an office before

not even trying to be generous, that's just how it first landed to my ears. of course I am also a notorious Wiggum truther so ymmv. Alfred otm, to be clear.

― the last visible dot (Doctor Casino), Friday, November 1, 2024 10:54 AM (eleven minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

how come they never ask the candidates about viking sleep, that would help me an undecided voter

Getting shot at by a supporter really broke whatever there was left of his brain.

― Charlie Hair (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, November 1, 2024 8:49 AM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

Kamala trolling him about his rallies during the debate really feels like the inflection point to me

the Cheney thing is insane but i actually think he is sincerely trying to do a "if this war-hawk found herself in a warzone" bit. still horrifyingly direct, and eye-popping from a rich-kid draft-dodger, and of course still likely to inspire his heavily armed, insane and conspiratorial supporters to attempt murder of a political rival. but for once the latter seems almost incidental out of sheer negligence.

― the last visible dot (Doctor Casino), Friday, November 1, 2024 9:35 AM (thirty-five minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

I think you're right but this is the guy who has very recently fantasized about using the military against his political enemies and while in office deployed the National Guard to rough up protestors and also took FEMA money to build migrant camps and deliberately tried to get Americans in blue states killed from Covid, never in American history has anyone ever deserved the benefit of the doubt less

what if there's a piece of shrapnel that made it into his head undetected and if he just turns his head a certain way in the next 4 days, he's a turnip

never in American history has anyone ever deserved the benefit of the doubt less

This is too rich to digest, considering you've given DJT the benefit of the doubt exactly the way Doctor Casino did many, many times over the years.

re: benefit of the doubt

I swear to God the final Wall Street Journal editorial making case for Trump includes this line.

“Mr Trump was too undisciplined, and his attention span too short, to stay on message much less stage a coup.”

Too erratic to coup! Trump 2024!

— Tim Miller (@Timodc) November 1, 2024

I like your stories, I love your gun
Shooting out truck tires sounds like loads and loads of fun
But in my room, wish you were dead
You bawl like the baby in Eraserhead

I'm too erratic to coup, I'm too erratic to coup

that WSJ editorial is truly unhinged but also a good lesson for all of us to keep in mind: for every seething, divorced MAGA-hat-in-a-diner, there's also some chode reading the WSJ, performing respectability with an oily grin, perfectly willing to fling burning shit into his neighbor's backyard, only to respond walter sobchak-style when confronted, "i'm calmer 'n you are."

Ah, but what about the Capitol riot on Jan. 6, 2021? Mr. Trump’s attempt to overturn the election was appalling, and for many Americans is disqualifying for a second term. We thought he shouldn’t win the nomination again.

But Democrats helped to revive his fortunes with their unprecedented prosecutions and other excesses. Democrats made Trump II possible as much as GOP primary voters. If Mr. Trump wins, it will be a comeback for the ages, and testament to his resilience and ability to speak for Americans who feel unrepresented.

checkmate, liberals!

Wow, I dunno how some of y'all can watch CNN. At least MSNBC has laughing, often drunk commentators who look like they're having fun. Everyone's so fuckin' dour over there; they take themselves so seriously.

I cannot watch televised news. The Guardian and some Dutch-language newspapers is all I can do

yeah tv news is dire

This is channel surfing. I watched Hundreds of Beavers and Copycat (prescient about incels!).

Copycat is pretty solid. Christopher Young’s score is beautiful

xxp wait, it isn't even election day yet! it's all just speculation with no new information

I really only tune in for big breaking news or stuff like election night coverage (and even that is close to intolerable because they end up treating every little new nugget of information like it's super important, just to fill the space).

ok thats enough wine for you grandma

If I can see it coming. If Trump loses, the election commentariat is going to blame Trump's mistakes in the last week. You know who won't get credit they deserve? Kamala Harris, Nancy Pelosi, Liz Cheney, and tens of millions of women who will be responsible for defeating Trump.

— Bill Kristol (@BillKristol) November 4, 2024

the news stories on t.v. that freak me out the most are the ones where different state officials talk about how many national guard they have deployed for tomorrow. scary.

Should Harris win, the promotion of this story for the last 18 months will deserve scrutiny:

Former President Donald Trump is seeing support from Black voters decrease just days before Election Day, a poll published on Sunday shows.

According to the final national NBC News poll of the 2024 presidential campaign, Trump, the GOP presidential nominee, is only earning 9 percent of Black support, lower than the 12 percent he received during the 2020 presidential election when he ran against Joe Biden.
Meanwhile, Vice President Kamala Harris, the Democratic presidential nominee, leads Black voters with 87 percent, NBC News’ poll shows.

The poll, with a sample of 1,001 registered voters, was conducted between October 30 to November 2 and has a margin of error of plus or minus 3.1 percentage points.

If Trump loses, the election commentariat is going to talk about Harris's victory and its meaning for about a day and a half. Then Trump will immediately absorb all media attention by ranting about election fraud and that'll be the headline story right up to the Inauguration Day.

trend pieces cant always be true whats important is that they feel true xp

i really only follow the elections through the ilx threads, only way i can take it

ums, we've totally been pranking u

Trump died months ago

I don’t even own a TV news

The John Krasinski YouTube show was my only connection to current events.

Trump was replaced by an actor named Billy Shears a year and a half into his term. Trump is dead, miss 'im, miss 'im, miss 'im.

The walrus was Vance

"Dead Trump In The Middle of the Road
...and He's Stinkin' To High Heaven!"

It would be kinda funny if Kamala won and on day one in the Oval Office went through her enemies list and put Trump and a ton of Trump people in Gitmo indefinitely for being enemies of the people. And then tells people in a televised address that her to-do list was actually an enemies list and she can do whatever she wants because Supreme Court. And then she laughs for a really long time with that laugh.

Insert joke here about Harris’s expertise in locking people up.

Here come old fat Trump he come groovin' up slowly
He got JD Weirdo this one empty rally

Now that’s how to handle the pre-election jitters! Quips ahoy.

Re: my comments on CNN and MSNBC this evening... yes, there are Trump staffers who no longer much care whether he wins or loses. Not exactly breaking news. Hard to overstate how terrible morale is inside of this campaign—and how much anger/resentment is felt toward the candidate.

— Tim Alberta (@TimAlberta) November 5, 2024

love it

Wait, people who work with Trump end up hating him? Why are we only learning this now.

huge if true, could swing the race

yeah I know but I'm letting my liberal orange man bad flag fly tonight

he's pretty bad

Rogan has apparently endorsed Trump

lol I assumed he did already

The great and powerful @elonmusk.
If it wasn't for him we'd be fucked. He makes what I think is the most compelling case for Trump you'll hear, and I agree with him every step of the way.
For the record, yes, that's an endorsement of Trump.
Enjoy the podcast pic.twitter.com/LdBxZFVsLN

— Joe Rogan (@joerogan) November 5, 2024

stupid

xps

Oh he's spectacularly bad! Just an objectively terrible human being on a level that most terrible people can't even contemplate reaching because of his entire lack of empathy or refusal to ever express the tiniest bit of remorse, chagrin or shame. Which somehow makes him appealing to some people.

A FB friend was phone-banking tonight — she's a woman of color, and she was calling people in Wisconsin, and she said the level of anger and aggrievement in the Trump-voting white men she reached was startling. Not just the things they said (about immigrants, inflation, etc) but the vitriol and bitterness in it. There are people who really do get off on Trump. He's like a drug.

I'm in Wisconsin and I have gotten like 20 "political calls" tonight (as determined by my phone.) I wouldn't answer any of them for anything. Anyone who's picking up tonight is a sicko for sure.

yeah they like him because he represents a fantasy of being uninhibited.

very juvenile psychology to the whole thing

It’s a good thing Harris didn’t actually go on Rogan’s podcast.

And lol at the idea of Elon making a compelling case for anything

I think people here like Joe Rogan too, or are at least interested in him or have been following him, which is baffling to me

Shapiro's on stage in Philadelphia doing the Obama thing again

Is he calling his grandmother out for racism?

the return of choom gang

Associated Press:
Harris makes her closing argument to the American people: "We go play hoop"

It would be kinda funny if Kamala won and on day one in the Oval Office went through her enemies list and put Trump and a ton of Trump people in Gitmo indefinitely for being enemies of the people. And then tells people in a televised address that her to-do list was actually an enemies list and she can do whatever she wants because Supreme Court. And then she laughs for a really long time with that laugh.

My Kamala Day One fantasy is she calls the six right-wing Supreme Court justices into the Oval Office and demands their resignation.

*slides pistol across desk* “The bullet in here is for you. You get to choose which of us pulls the trigger.”

^this was how a coworker who was given a choice between quitting & being fired described his convo with our ex-boss.

It was the first remotely interesting thing I’d ever heard him say.

Sorry, back to yr regular programming.

I hope the Rogan thing doesn't inspire too many listeners to get off the couch and vote tomorrow.

Though it's another sign that if these guys lose, they might go for a 'Texit' campaign to have Texas secede.