Glasgow Nazi Dilemma

Is there a problem in the fact that one of the major respectable Scottish Parties has the same NP as the one that is not respectible.

Of course the problem then arises that a public recantation now (before the guy gets out of prison and is free to move) leaves Plinky, whose name and address has just been published in the tabs, open to potentially violent reprisals - it's a short step from 'martyr' to 'traitor' and the B*P I'm sure take the same guilt-by-association line you do.

Last I heard, too, Nazism wasn't a sexually transmitted disease. One foolish email aside, what has Plinky got to apologise about anyway?

I highly doubt it. She's completely distanced herself from his actions both here and in the article. She believes her boyf has changed, and that he's decent, so obviously she'd like some of his colleagues to send him a card to cheer him up. If she thought he was still a racist, I'm sure she wouldn't have done it. You have good reason not to do it, but I don't see what's wrong with her making the suggestion (bearing in mind that she believes her boyf has turned over a new leaf).

"I really don't know whether I should feel sympathy."

For her, yes. For her boyfriend, no. But it's understandable that she would want to help him through it.

Yes. I said on the other thread:

(There's some seriously slimey people putting stuff on the internet that's treating P's boyf like a martyr to their sick cause. If he's a changed man, he'd be as sickened by this shit it as I am.)

He has to publicly distance himself from it when he gets out of jail. It would be a big step towards being decent again. Whether he will be given a chance to explain himself is another matter...

The Nazi should apologise. Why should she? She's distanced herself from his actions from day one. Why should she take responsibility for something that she didn't do, and has always disapproved of?

OK...so I sympathise. It's not the first time a poor lassie has found herself with a scumbag...and they tabloids can be scary...and wee Davy's no exactly Goebbels (he doesn't have the brains for that)....but he started it. So, all in all, my true sympathy goes to my fellow citizens who were being intimidated and threatened. Not that it's really relevant - but i'm white, by the way. Love from T45!

The only person on this thread I took issue with is the person who started it, as a result of the other comments aswell. Whatever I think about the sentence aside I find their behaviour to be a little too close to gloating for my liking.

heard it, bored of it.

in fact i think she's worth a hundred of him

like you, i think i would have walked away long before: i think plinky may be terribly terribly mistaken, and is going to be badly hurt in all this, but i still admire her conviction that something is salvageable

Mark - yes to what you say (not that we have to agree with him, mind), but no to his tone, attitude, and desire to stir up yet more shit.

I absolutely disagree that tabloid readers consider themselves arseholes. Salt of the Earth, mate. I persoanlly detect sympathies in this fella's posts.

The "bullshit" in the above para was a soft, conversational one, not a confrontational one - sorry if it didn't come across like that, Pete.

Yes, I take things too seriously. To be honest, I quite enjoy getting stirred from my usual letheragy, even if it's not for the best of reasons.

I agree w mark s abt "plinky", & i wish her the best. I hope her b/f gets some bloody sense into his head, and soon. There are probably a lot of stories abt the fasc1sts, their recruitment methods, their belief system etc etc that could be told by clever & daring journalists, and IMO that would be worthwhile, & very much in the public interest. What a shame this brave tabloid reporter found it easier to, in typical tabloid manner, metaphorically kick the shit out of one of the "ordinary people" when they are down. What a shame she though it so much easier to sit on her lazy ass & trawl the int3rw3b for her story instead. If I were her editor, I'd sack her for this. IMO, the tabloid press is a force for evil in our society, quite possibly a greater force for evil than some bloody stupid fringe politickal movement. This whole thing just makes me feel sad & impotent. If anyone were to raise the suggestion of de-registering with google, they'd get no bloody arguments from me (btw sorry this is sketchy & not very well argued, i am tired)

Nonsense. Trawling the internet enabled her to come up with just the sort of tittle tattle story her readers and editor demand.

Said Journo also asked Plinky if she wanted to give her side of the story, but Ms Plink got rude. So....wotcha gonna do?

Wonder what Plink's motives were? Attention seeking? Can't have been a sincere desire to apologise, cause the only thing she and her bf have expressed any regret over so far is him getting nicked and ending up on the nonce's wing at the Bar-L. Not one single fucking mention of how scared the decent citizens of Pollokshields might have felt when the N@z1s started shoving racist shite through their letterboxes.

So...there you have it. But it's not just Journos involved. Who do you think is feeding them the dirt on D____ W______? There's a few of us, actually. And the Record didn't print the half of it! What was that club he used to go to in Bristol when he wanted a quick shag? Oh yes...the Mauretania. And what about the time he was chucked out of a hotel for racially abusing the staff? Wonder what's led to the sudden change of personality so that now he's (apparently, if you can believe it) reformed character.

Ditch him, Plink. He's no worth it. And, as you can all see from the B*P site, he's no oil painting neither.

jesus.

Unless it's done with her permission, that's a serious breach of netiquette.

What exactly has she done that she should apologise for? She's not responsible for her boyfriend's actions. And she's said from day one that his actions were abhorrent. Clear this up for me once and for all: what should she apologise for?

I think it's pretty obvious that Plunk = the journo. How else could they have got that e-mail?

The more I read your posts the more I think there's some much more personal antipathy between you and her, not that I'm in any hurry to find out what.

This is where the confusion arises I think. Did she email HERSELF, or did she email the NEWSPAPER herself? Only if it's the former are we dealing with interception.

Anonymizer? Hell...I hust typed in a bogus address, No prob. I KNOW your'e not Nazis fer chrissakes. Just don't believe what Ms Plink says.

In other words, you've made your opinion clear, and as you've probably noticed, the way you've done so has a lot of people frightened that you have some ulterior motive here. So thanks for your input, please be aware of the things Tom said above about our level of association with any of this, and unless you have something different to contribute, I think our investigations into this topic are sort of concluded.

As I said on another thread, I think DW's conviction may not have been just and don't like the law under which he was convicted -- but I do not condone his actions. Other than that, OTM.

Does anyone on this bitch read the daily mail? Ooh, maybe a thread.