Sergei Rebrov

If Hoddle had signed Rebrov, he'd be starting every single game regardless of how many goals he was scoring.

no coincidence that they're pals in lapdancing club/home video antics, and that they both incurred the wrath of the imperial lord ferg.

rebrov, on the other hand, doesn't seem to have brought it on himself, he's just unfortunate that his club don't seem to know how to use him.

still, you would have thought they'd have figured that out before spending £11m on him. or before giving an under-fire manager that sort of money to spend.

Rory Allen, Pompey (Alan Ball) signed him in the Summer of 1999 from Spurs, an ex England U21 international striker.

Poor Rory had a series of multiple injuries - each time he got back fit - he picked by another serious injury, but just as he was getting back into contention for the X-time recently - he does a runner to Oz to join the Barmy army and decides to jack in football altogether.

Lee Mills - the records state he scored the goals that got Bradford into the premier, a year later in the summer of 2000 our then manager at Pompey, Tony the Tiger Pulis decided to panic buy Lee Mills for over a Million - after a string of targets rejected Pompey (including Horsfield who went to Birmingham and Jason Roberts who went to WBA) - Mills was supposed to score the goals, instead we signed a donkey that was useless - by the October Pulis was sacked, a year later in September 2001 Graham Rix sent the Donkey Mills to Coventry for a cut price 250K.

more talented than anyone mentioned above. another one partial to a spot of 'clubbing'.

and surely collymore is the greatest waste of talent ever?

sharpe was ok but come off it. kevin gallen anyone? heh

The only consolation is we managed to get £4.5m from Leeds for him just as he was going shit.

The thing is, are we sure Collymore was that talented? He only ever hit top form in the first division. It's a bit like calling Saha an all-time great strick, really.

Dom! he was a small-white-star-rated player in SWOS ferchrissake!

re collymore at man u, yeah it was more a general what if... for one collymore's style of play suited liverpool much more. however i'd also blame impotent roy evans somewhere along the line for collymore's slide and perhaps perhaps a more professional set-up earlier in his development might've still rescued him? i'm not sure that he was always destined to self destruct but by the time he'd left anfield it was all over

collymore was great in the premier league?!

And bob, I agree it's strange that Sharpe hasn't shown a glimpse of talent since. Although if you believe the rumours about his 'clubbing' activities, maybe that's what fucked him up.

"collymore, on the other hand, was the most gifted striker of his generation"

I'm not sure I'd go that far, but he was a superb striker. He suffered terribly from depression, which no doubt hindered his career greatly.

At the start of his ill-starred brief period at our place this season, fans of clubs who'd seen him were saying: he looks great for two games then appears to lose interest. This is exactly what heappened with us.

Sharpe - didn't he lose pace after knee injuries? According to an article I read he was a boozer in The Man U days (who wasn't though?) but not thereafter.

Kilian said - **Le Tissier in the sense that he never got the stage his talents deserved. Gascoigne and Best squandered their careers a bit, although obviously they had some incredible highs previous to that.**

I disagree. I think, barring a career-ending injury, most players achieve all they *should* and all they*deserve*. Skill with a football is just one of a mix including fitness, ability to play in a team, mental toughness etc. Le Tiss was magnificent for a small club and scored some great goals, but it was obvious that he wasn't interested in improving his game, keeping his weight down and making the best of what he had. Not one of the big clubs was interested in taking him, because it's obv he would have failed to match the work ethic of a Wilkinson or a Ferguson. I'd compare his ball skills with Beckham - both fantastic with a dead ball, neither particularly fast, both rather one-footed. But Beckham's attitute to improvement and fitness makes all the difference. I guess he was lucky to be involved with Utd since he was at school, but in the end it's down to the player himself.

Best in no way squandered his career - he had 12 years, from the age of 17 to 29 when he was fucking supreme. Absolutely the best there's ever been in the UK, no question. The sorry end to his career makes no difference.

Gascoigne - I agree here - a waste, but sadly predictable from the early days. Like Le Tissier he didn't have what it takes to be great.

these references make no sense to me.

these references make no sense to me.

I think booze was the least of his problems. I have it on reasonable authority (i.e. a journo who talked to people at O.T. at the time, off the record) that his 'recreational' activities were a major concern.

anyway as gifted strikers of generations go i always prefer sir les ferdinand. note: HUGE QPR bias (come back les!!)

michael, i think dr c means that alex ferg and howard wilkinson would never have tolerated lax uncomitted le tiss in their teams. *cough cough veron, giggs cough*

anyone wanna speculate on future flops? joe cole p'haps?

i don't agree. the right move at the right time can transform a player beyond what he thinks himself capable

examples forthcoming *thinks*

If Le Tiss, for instance, had been at a bigger club where he wasn't the automatic hero and star, and under a tougher manager, at the right times, he might have become a real world class player. Yeah, the player's own character has most to do with it, but I think the right manager or coach or fellow players at the right club at the right time can all have a huge influence too.

I agree about Le Tiss, in the sense that he was his own worst enemy. But a waste of talent is still a waste of talent, whether it is the player themself to blame, or unfortunate outside factors (injury, bad management, choosing wrong club etc). He WAS largely at fault, though.

"he would have failed to match the work ethic of a Wilkinson or a Ferguson."

Fergie was a huge fan of Le Tiss, he was often linked with Man Utd. Also linked with Chelsea and Celtic.

"Gascoigne - I agree here - a waste, but sadly predictable from the early days. Like Le Tissier he didn't have what it takes to be great."

Gazza was a different story to Le Tiss. He WAS great. He played at the top level, proved himself world class, then threw it away far too quickly. Le Tiss never even reached that level.

"Best had 12 years, from the age of 17 to 29 when he was fucking supreme. Absolutely the best there's ever been in the UK, no question."

Yeah, I know, I said in the initial post that obviously there were amazing highs before the sorry end.

But DC was wrong to say that Rebrov was on form in the team before Glenn arrived. Graham had already started putting him on the bench / marginalizing him.

I seem to have said all this before; but not on this thread.

Rebrov, who has struggled at Spurs since being brought in by former boss George Graham four years ago, has been on loan at Turkish side Fenerbahce.

But the Ukrainian's agent says he will link up with the Spurs squad on 1 July and see out the final year of his deal.

Sandor Varga told the London Evening Standard newspaper: "He is determined to fight his way into Santini's plans."

Santini and new sporting director Frank Arnesen are set to review the current squad before adding any new players.

And that could hand a lifeline to Rebrov, who joined for a club-record fee of £11m from Dynamo Kiev.

He joined Fenerbahce in January 2003 on an 18-month deal with an option to make the move permanent.

"the most rewarding part is when they give me my money"

Glad to see Rebrov is back, though as Jonnie said, it makes us incredibly titchy up front if Freddie doesn't play. I would love to see him succeed. Postiga - a loan spell somewhere nice and Nationwide-y or maybe even a go at being a midfield fannydangler when Redknapp's bionics give way.

I think we need all three though, with Fredi on the bench/upfront whenever one of them is inevitably injured.

Freddie should stay, but I have a feeling he'll go but not until midseason. Is there a transfer window next season, or did that scrap it?

I'm happy that Sergei is maybe coming back!

Also, is Carr staying??

The fate of Taricco is THE TEST OF SANTINI'S NOUS.

Hopkins is droll - but really, Scarboro's fa(i)r too good for him. (MT not TH.)

I like Postiga: we must keep him.

I see quality in Kanouté: we must keep him.

Defoe and Keane must play.

Rebrov is always welcome.

So is Thuram; and Lizarazu, yes. Certainement.

Kanoute is a fits and spurts striker. Frustrating. Rebrov, I dunno. How did he do out on loan?

There aren't many non fits and spurts strikers in the world. Anyway, Spurs fans like an enigma.

I like an enigma?

I agree about the fish & chips.

i have seen this, it is GRATE. also WAFFLES.

"I knew all about the club and enjoyed the way they played," he lied.

"Whenever I got the chance I watched West Ham on television and at Upton Park" he said, fibbing again.

I did post this news somewhere less appropriate, unaware the scamp had his own thread. Tut. Kick me off the boards for bad searchiness.

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it's strange that Spurs are NOW looking for a left side player - was it Glenda Hoddle that sold Etherington to the Hammers?

Like the work permit for Dumitrescu then. Or Hayden Foxe.

x-postie.

Incredibly lightweight, a diver. Obvious skill and vision, but no practical way of using it in a rough and tumble division. Seemed to sulk too and couldn't force his way into a poor team last season.

At Kiev, he was prolific. I think it's just a simple case of a player peaking at a young age. A shame, because he turned from being a spectacular player to watch, into a frustrating one.

how does he not live in castleford?

Oh dear