I'm Going Right to the Bar of Board Overseers About You Today, Fella: Nominations for the ILX Legal/Courtroom/Lawyer Movie Poll

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I was hoping media would win the pre-poll, but as requested...Nominations are open for two or three weeks; I've started a Google Doc at https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1LWRJFuKr8zoSK-g4x9TGTGuUcehMFDU0d1ES3Fs5jS4/edit?usp=sharing. When you get a ballot together, email me at sayhey AT rocketmail DOT com. I'll use the same scoring at the road-movie poll:

Ballots: pick your 25 favourite legal/courtroom/lawyer movies. Define that how you want; if your definition is really strange, and you vote for Rosemary's Baby because Rosemary and Guy took over the apartment of one of New York City's first female lawyers, no one else will.

Scoring: I’ve got Pazz & Jop blood, so you get 200 points to split among your 25 films. The maximum for any one film is 40 points--split the 200 points up however you want.

clemenza, Sunday, 13 April 2025 17:23 (four months ago)

Some obvious ones:

Anatomy of a Murder
12 Angry Men
The Verdict
Suspect
Jagged Edge
Witness for the Prosecution
To Kill a Mockingbird
...And Justice for All
Philadelphia
The Firm
The Notorious RBG: The Life and Times of Ruth Bader Ginsburg

clemenza, Sunday, 13 April 2025 17:26 (four months ago)


Erin Brockovich
By the Grace of God

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 13 April 2025 17:28 (four months ago)

The 2023 horror film Red Rooms

Josefa, Sunday, 13 April 2025 17:42 (four months ago)

Kiarostami’s Close-Up

Josefa, Sunday, 13 April 2025 17:46 (four months ago)

Anatomy of a Fall

bored by endless ecstasy (anagram), Sunday, 13 April 2025 17:48 (four months ago)

Kramer vs. Kramer and Irreconcilable Differences, if this is the kind of thing we’re talking about

Josefa, Sunday, 13 April 2025 17:53 (four months ago)

Puncture, because a bunch of my old friends worked on/were in it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wLQCOqzLv4

Lithium Just Madison (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 13 April 2025 17:58 (four months ago)

Do these all count?

Rashomon
The Passion of Joan of Arc
The Trial of Joan of Arc
(plus probably a bunch more Joan of Arc flicks)
Witchhammer
Witchfinder General

prog is the sound of the suburbs (Matt #2), Sunday, 13 April 2025 18:16 (four months ago)

The Trial (Welles)
My Cousin Vinny
Adam’s Rib

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Sunday, 13 April 2025 19:18 (four months ago)

Angel Face

Lithium Just Madison (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 13 April 2025 19:35 (four months ago)

Disorder in the Court (1936 Three Stooges short)

I think we're all Bezos on this bus (WmC), Sunday, 13 April 2025 19:50 (four months ago)

Michael Clayton

trm (tombotomod), Sunday, 13 April 2025 19:50 (four months ago)

Judgement at Nuremberg
Inherit the Wind

H in Addis, Sunday, 13 April 2025 19:51 (four months ago)

Reversal of Fortune
Legally Blonde

Eureka (1983)

i got bao-yu babe (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 13 April 2025 19:52 (four months ago)

Great, thanks, will add all those tonight. (I was wondering about Anatomy of a Fall, so glad someone clarified that.)

clemenza, Sunday, 13 April 2025 19:53 (four months ago)

Ace Attorney

i got bao-yu babe (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 13 April 2025 19:54 (four months ago)

Defending Your Life

cryptosicko, Sunday, 13 April 2025 20:10 (four months ago)

The Hour of the Pig

i got bao-yu babe (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 13 April 2025 20:12 (four months ago)

JFK (1991) :-)

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 13 April 2025 20:29 (four months ago)

Helter Skelter (1976 TV film)

Josefa, Sunday, 13 April 2025 20:33 (four months ago)

Dark Waters

H in Addis, Sunday, 13 April 2025 20:37 (four months ago)

Juror #2
My Cousin Vinny
Intolerable Cruelty
A Few Good Men
Paddington 2 - tough expose of the underbelly of the industrial prison complex

Dan Worsley, Sunday, 13 April 2025 20:37 (four months ago)

The Winslow Boy

H in Addis, Sunday, 13 April 2025 21:15 (four months ago)

Runaway Jury
The Juror
Primal Fear

clemenza, Sunday, 13 April 2025 21:33 (four months ago)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_drama#Legal_thriller_films
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trial_film

I think we're all Bezos on this bus (WmC), Sunday, 13 April 2025 21:45 (four months ago)

That's helpful...when I get ambitious in the next few days, will figure out a way to efficiently cut-and-paste those onto the spreadsheet.

clemenza, Sunday, 13 April 2025 21:52 (four months ago)

Trump now calling for FCC to revoke CBS’ license or fine them because he’s mad at 60 Minutes.

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Monday, 14 April 2025 02:48 (four months ago)

lol oops wrong thread. Although we’re living thru a lot of legal drama right now.

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Monday, 14 April 2025 03:39 (four months ago)

The Rural Juror

Lithium Just Madison (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 14 April 2025 03:57 (four months ago)

It was pretty easy to add all those films from Wikipedia...list is over 150 now; check the Google Doc before nominating anything else (alphabetical, so easy to check):

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1LWRJFuKr8zoSK-g4x9TGTGuUcehMFDU0d1ES3Fs5jS4/edit?usp=sharing

clemenza, Monday, 14 April 2025 18:43 (four months ago)

I also added The Social Network...which I love, but won't vote for. A good part of the film, though, does take place with lawyers questioning Zuckerberg and various parties as they work through discovery.

clemenza, Monday, 14 April 2025 18:46 (four months ago)

Just watched The Rainmaker last night, which was good. (I see it's already on the list.) the romance angle in it is very tacked on but there were some colorful characters and a few good laughs

Vinnie, Monday, 14 April 2025 19:01 (four months ago)

the people vs. larry flynt

gestures broadly at...everything (voodoo chili), Monday, 14 April 2025 19:15 (four months ago)

stretching things a bit with some of these:

Liar liar
The Post
Bridge of spies
Rebel ridge
Capturing the Friedmans
El secreto de sus ojos
The Verdict
A separation

fpsa, Monday, 14 April 2025 20:12 (four months ago)

The Verdict is a stretch? It might conceivably win.

clemenza, Monday, 14 April 2025 20:32 (four months ago)

Ah, "some of these"...anyway, stretching is okay.

clemenza, Monday, 14 April 2025 20:33 (four months ago)

The 2023 horror film Red Rooms

― Josefa, Sunday, April 13, 2025 1:42 PM (two days ago) bookmarkflaglink

this was a compelling, beguiling movie.. was it discussed anywhere on ilx?

johnny crunch, Tuesday, 15 April 2025 14:05 (four months ago)

will I get around to that by all accounts not very good death penalty movie with Jacques Brel

a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Tuesday, 15 April 2025 14:08 (four months ago)

this was a compelling, beguiling movie.. was it discussed anywhere on ilx?

A little on the horror thread. But not enough! I found it deeply unnerving and completely fascinating. It has really lingered with me. Might even watch it again, despite it not being an easy ride.

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 15 April 2025 14:10 (four months ago)

Same. Has stayed with me. Would read/offer obvious thoughts on a thread.

I would prefer not to. (Chinaski), Tuesday, 15 April 2025 16:43 (four months ago)

does The Insider count?

omar little, Tuesday, 15 April 2025 16:57 (four months ago)

I forget how many courtroom scenes there are in that one, beyond the extremely satisfying, Bruce McGill/Wings Hauser showdown.

omar little, Tuesday, 15 April 2025 16:58 (four months ago)

Divorce Iranian Style

Iza Duffus Hardy (President Keyes), Tuesday, 15 April 2025 16:59 (four months ago)

I think The Bedroom Window has courtroom scenes, with Wallace Shawn as one of the attorneys and Robert Palmer's "Hyperactive" on the soundtrack (in a bar, not during the courtroom scenes).

clemenza, Tuesday, 15 April 2025 17:47 (four months ago)

It was pretty easy to add all those films from Wikipedia...list is over 150 now; check the Google Doc before nominating anything else (alphabetical, so easy to check):

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1LWRJFuKr8zoSK-g4x9TGTGuUcehMFDU0d1ES3Fs5jS4/edit?usp=sharing🕸


Commiserations in advance

the babality of evil (wins), Tuesday, 15 April 2025 18:41 (four months ago)

Domestic Violence 2 (the Frederick Wiseman doc)

Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 16 April 2025 00:09 (four months ago)

Yes, and (just going by the title--a while since I saw it) Juvenile Court.

clemenza, Wednesday, 16 April 2025 00:15 (four months ago)

Domestic Violence 2

Disappointed to see Wiseman give in to the franchise mentality.

clemenza, Wednesday, 16 April 2025 00:28 (four months ago)

Lines already crossed with High School 2 and the Tuscaloosa Tetralogy

Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 16 April 2025 00:42 (four months ago)

The Boys (1962)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Boys_(1962_British_film)

Nuts, whole hazelnuts (Tom D.), Wednesday, 16 April 2025 10:50 (four months ago)

Friggin' Wikipedia.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0054697/

Nuts, whole hazelnuts (Tom D.), Wednesday, 16 April 2025 10:59 (four months ago)

Jury Duty
Trial and Error
Ernest Goes to Jail

Judi Dench's Human Hand (methanietanner), Wednesday, 16 April 2025 13:22 (four months ago)

Both All the President's Men and Goodfellas have courtroom scenes...but I won't add them.

clemenza, Wednesday, 16 April 2025 15:03 (four months ago)

Beverly hills cop
Beethoven’s 3rd
Gremlins
Fast times at ridgemont high

the babality of evil (wins), Wednesday, 16 April 2025 15:35 (four months ago)

Both All the President's Men and Goodfellas have courtroom scenes...but I won't add them.

― clemenza, Wednesday, April 16, 2025 10:03 AM (forty-three minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

killers of the flower moon, too

gestures broadly at...everything (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 16 April 2025 15:49 (four months ago)

Is the big easy a legal thriller or nah

the babality of evil (wins), Wednesday, 16 April 2025 15:52 (four months ago)

I'm a huge fan of Fast Times, but...completely stumped.

clemenza, Wednesday, 16 April 2025 16:59 (four months ago)

(xxpost)

https://phildellio.tripod.com/gladstone.jpg

clemenza, Wednesday, 16 April 2025 17:10 (four months ago)

The thread has me wanting to create a themed marathon

Clever Message Board User Name (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 16 April 2025 17:16 (four months ago)

I'm a huge fan of _Fast Times_, but...completely stumped.


Have you seen the others?

the babality of evil (wins), Wednesday, 16 April 2025 18:55 (four months ago)

I've seen Gremlins, and thought "Well, okay, maybe there's a jokey courtroom scene with Gremlins presiding..." But the whole post is a joke--got it.

clemenza, Wednesday, 16 April 2025 19:09 (four months ago)

It is interesting, I've never really thought about the genre much before. Having a much harder time coming up with off-the-beaten path choices than I usually do. Can only really think of a limited amount of non-US choices, too.

a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Wednesday, 16 April 2025 19:15 (four months ago)

https://i.imgur.com/5tzO1Hl.jpg

the babality of evil (wins), Wednesday, 16 April 2025 19:36 (four months ago)

Don't forget Oh, God!, with George Burns and John Denver (and Teri Garr)

Hongro Hongro Hippies (Myonga Vön Bontee), Wednesday, 16 April 2025 23:05 (four months ago)

Added First Monday in October--saw it ages ago, remember nothing--plus four documentaries: Hot Coffee, No Jail Time: The Movie, The Central Park Five, The Thin Blue Line (haven't seen the first two).

clemenza, Thursday, 17 April 2025 00:02 (four months ago)

Has Miracle on 34th Street been mentioned?

cryptosicko, Thursday, 17 April 2025 00:41 (four months ago)

It's on the list, yes; there's a spreadsheet link in the first post.

clemenza, Thursday, 17 April 2025 00:50 (four months ago)

Oops--had it down as In Miracle on 34th Street...

clemenza, Thursday, 17 April 2025 00:52 (four months ago)

Can't nominate this but oh for what could have been

https://www.france24.com/en/france/20201118-french-court-rules-against-clint-eastwood-testifying-in-thalys-train-attack-trial

a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Thursday, 17 April 2025 09:35 (four months ago)

The miracle on 34th & oh god noms made me think a matter of life & death should definitely be on here

the babality of evil (wins), Thursday, 17 April 2025 12:00 (four months ago)

"the caine mutiny"

(and william friedkin's 2023 "the caine mutiny court-martial")

fact checking cuz, Thursday, 17 April 2025 12:40 (four months ago)

made me think a matter of life & death should definitely be on here

yes!

fact checking cuz, Thursday, 17 April 2025 12:48 (four months ago)

Three comfort-viewing films for me that belong to varying degrees: Class Action, 100%; The Paper Chase--more of a teaching film, but immersed in the law, for sure; Rounders--my favourite poker film, iffy for this, but Matt Damon and Gretchen Mol are law students, there's a moot courtroom scene, and there are a bunch of law professors who meet for poker and are astounded by Damon's skill at reading all their tells.

clemenza, Thursday, 17 April 2025 13:57 (four months ago)

Probably close to the limit of relevant films (189 right now), but I'll keep this open till next Sunday; I'll use this same thread as a voting thread after that.

https://i.postimg.cc/MKqKdZX5/paul.jpg

clemenza, Sunday, 20 April 2025 17:30 (four months ago)

Couple of days late here...not sure whether to go forward with this or declare a mistrial. Interest seems to be more sporadic than on the poll thread I started, which could be tied in with the periodic shutdowns, or could be a result of the ~ finite number of films that were assembled pretty quickly. I don't know. I'll say that voting is open for now, and see what comes in over the next week. Details are in the original post on how to vote.

Nominations: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1LWRJFuKr8zoSK-g4x9TGTGuUcehMFDU0d1ES3Fs5jS4/edit?usp=sharing

My email: sayhey AT rocketmail DOT com.

clemenza, Monday, 28 April 2025 21:39 (three months ago)

If you want to vote for something not on the list, just mention it here.

clemenza, Monday, 28 April 2025 21:40 (three months ago)

Case dismissed!

I don't think the interest is there for a poll. A lot of votes in the pre-poll, but no ballots in a week. I'd normally be posting anything and everything that pops into my head to keep this thread near the top, but my heart isn't in it either--I wanted to do a media-movie poll, and this was my distant third choice. If anybody wants to take it over, you're welcome to the spreadsheet of nominations.

clemenza, Monday, 5 May 2025 23:24 (three months ago)


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