Anyone hate the indie scene but love music?

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Well? I hate indie people and all the indie cliches and all the indie scene, but I love music. Its a fucking horrible predicament. I don't know anyone who really likes music that I don't think is a freak (in the worst way, no smart asses saying I love being a freak please) or a weirdo, in fact all my friends have little or no interest in music which means I've noone to talk about music with which is odd because its my only interest. Is there an anonymous club or something?

― Ronan Fitzgerald, Tuesday, 21 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

there's the I Love Music meassage board. they might be able to help.

― jel, Tuesday, 21 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

In what ways are you not a freak? Having music as your only interest is vaguely freakish and I should know.

Also you could try scenes that aren't indie, unless of course you only like indie music in which case there is no hope for you.

― Tom, Tuesday, 21 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

there would never be music without fashion

― Mike Hanle y, Tuesday, 21 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Whatever, Mik e. Go bang on a log, you tart.

― David Raposa, Tuesday, 21 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Choobs!

― Mike Hanle y, Tuesday, 21 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

When I said indie I didn't mean indie really I suppose. I hate using genres to describe what I like and I was too lazy to name some artists but I'll rectify that now. Spiritualized, Mogwai, Ryan Adams, Whiskeytown, Dan the Automator, The Chemical Brothers, Will Oldham, Nick Drake, Primal Scream, Doves, Super Furry Animals, Spacemen 3, Simian, Slint, Tortoise, Public Enemy, Autechre, Jon Carter, Leftfield, Orbital, Miles Davis, I could go on all day. I'm not part of the indie scene at all really I suppose. Yes I may be a freak for having music as my sole interest but in a social sense other people who really like music are off the fucking wall, cut themselves, or whatever they do. Also these people tend to like shite music so perhaps my problem is that noone likes the bands I like either. The hell I have putting on a cd when I have mates around. It could be to do with me being 18, who knows. yes the message board may just help, I'm not quite suicidal yet

― Ronan Fitzgerald, Tuesday, 21 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Damn, Ronan. RUN to ILM immediately! (And post here, although we tend to be sillier.)

― Dan Perry, Tuesday, 21 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

But he will find a lot of indie scenesters there, no?

― Nick, Tuesday, 21 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Ronan's list of likes sounds like the record collection of a typical indie kid.

I really really think this whole thing people on ILM have about sneering at indie fans is a form of childish categorising. "Indie fans are not cool. I am cool. Therefore I am not an indie fan". Just get on with liking your music and stop being so uptight about it.

― The Dirty Vicar, Tuesday, 21 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

You had to ruin it for me didnt you Nick? What Saul Bellow said is definitely true about Indie "The problem with progressive views is not the establishment, but the limitless dullness of those who pursue them". How indie of me to quote that, I'm off to brush my duffle coat and moan about how I hate dance music, or used to hate it until I found out Radiohead invented it with Kid A.

― Ronan Fitzgerald, Tuesday, 21 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Erm, surely everyone has one interest they become obsessed with to the exclusion of everything else. For example, for the vast majority of the UK it's arsing football, so why do football fans never get labelled as sad losers?

― Bill, Tuesday, 21 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

A typical indie kid vicar? Find me some fucking typical indie kids who like alternative country and I'll make you very rich. It said Ryan Adams not Bryan Adams, theres a difference. I see you live in Ireland too, have you any idea how fucking difficult it is to even buy a Whiskeytown cd here? I had to spend 30 quid on one fucking Will Oldham CD, and I've paid that for Spacemen 3 stuff aswell, its certainly worth it but christ if thats what everyone else is doing then I must be living under a rock or something, I don't care about liking weird stuff for the sake of it being weird, I just want to find some people who like the same stuff that I get on with, given the points I made about the bands above its pretty unlikely without the internet.

― Ronan Fitzgerald, Tuesday, 21 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Erm. I was merely commenting on the fact that a lot of the records he listed are rated pretty highly by a lot of the people on ILM, and the core of his beef seems to be the lack of people around with whom he could talk about music he likes.

And the reason why soccer/football fans in the UK aren't immediately labelled as sad losers is because there are a lot more of them. Kind of like how the difference between a religion and a cult lies in the number of members it has.

― Dan Perry, Tuesday, 21 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

i always had a feeling that people who enganged in (semi)intelligent conversation about music on internet-b-boards were probably not a "indiescenemember" and probably a "music geek".

isn't it inherent in being a member of the "scene" that one must not engage in open conversation about music (not mention new cool bands to other people, discuss merits) and must rather merely say things like "such and such rule!" or "guess who i saw last night"?

that being said, it's pretty easy to spot a music snob on a b-board by their constant inability to listen to other peoples opinions, unless the opionion is coming from the uber-scene-leader, and by their horrible and cliche taste in music...

(see, wasn't it easy to see the indie snobbery there?)

― marianna, Tuesday, 21 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

No music geeks are the ones who have little or no personality but let themselves be defined by the few bands they like. They generally are the people that by their appearance and dress ensure everybody can see the big fat label music fan on their head, but in reality they have nothing else going for them hence their constant need to try make this seem not to be the case. Generally the people I meet who like a huge range of music are quite normal, and while they are obsessives like myself their tastes are sufficiently diverse that they are not one dimensionally defined by a few crap bands.

― Baz, Tuesday, 21 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

£30 for a Will Oldham CD? Is it goldplated or something?

While I don't want to get into a what-is-indie? debate (as it would end up with me claiming all good music as indie ("Mozart, a classic indie pop star if ever there was one") and you probably doing the opposite) I think of alt-country as being broadly part of the indie canon, on the basis that Road records sells records by Will Oldham & Low (and possibly Whiskeytown as well, haven't checked).

I still stand by my statement that your likes list is typical of what indie kids love. The archetypal indie kid buys B&S records, dances to the Chemical Brothers, gets pissed to Palace, cuts his wrists to Nick Drake, strokes his chin to Autechre, and so on. Or maybe I'm just generalising from myself to all people again.

What do you think indie fans like? Who are these indie people you rail against, where do they hang out, what do they look like? etc.

― The Dirty Vicar, Tuesday, 21 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Having worked in college radio, as organized a sector of indie-kid love as you'll find here in the States, the easy answer is to like what you like and not give a fuck if someone else complains. I actually found this easier to do (or rather got a little less hassle over what all I did like) pre-Nirvana rather than post -- perhaps something to do with the idea that The Man had got to The Kids somehow via them or something.

Ronan, don't fret (and he's actually already been on ILM, that's where I ran into him last week!) -- if someone bugs you about something, just calmly ask why they're so interested in dictating your own personal tastes. Let the rest roll off you like water off a duck's back.

― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 21 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

strokes his chin to Autechre

at this i must surely take offence! breakdancing is de rigeur for ae

― gareth, Tuesday, 21 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Firstly, I absolutely one hundred percent agree with you about you saying everything good could be described as indie, thats why I used the term in such a broad sense. If you doubt me, go check out my article in Losing Today magazine (sorry for plugging my article). I don't know any indie fans who like all those artists. It could be because I'm 18 but I know noone who likes Spiritualized, Spacemen 3, My Bloody Valentine, Mogwai, and as for alt country, well everybody hates that cos they generalise the whole genre of country, thats the same with alot of "indie" fans I know and dance music, they're just fucking traditionalists or the opposite. Either they hate all dance music based on the fact that they think the venga boys constitute dance and not pop, or else they only like warp records stuff and not to dance to either but to stroke their chins to as you say, and to check out what sampler the dj is using, and to laugh ironically to aphex twin playing Wham as I said somewhere else today. I think we're somewhat in agreement, at least on some of the issues you thought we disagreed on.

― Ronan Fitzgerald, Tuesday, 21 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Since you're here Ned, any news on that article? I feel like I'm summarising it with slang right here! Does it make the grade? If not I'll go right now and tell the kids that Santa Claus doesn't exist, at least not this year.

― Ronan Fitzgerald, Tuesday, 21 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Age is totally to do with it I think, as I almost posted before but didnt want to be presumptuous. Late 20something/early 30something types like me and the Vicar look at the list and think ahhh yes indie kid whereas to most 18 year olds your record collection comes from Venus. It's probably a no-win situation, eheu.

― Tom, Tuesday, 21 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Christ I'm doing overtime here, I also would say that I don't really consider Low to be alt country, if I have to use labels. Just thinking about it even if Road Records have Whiskeytown, it's still true to say that very very very few people in Dublin like them and least of all people my age, thank heaven for the internet, i'd never hear anything about them or Son Volt, or Jim White, I would still think country was for slack jawed clowns in hats.

― Ronan Fitzgerald, Tuesday, 21 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

i'm not sure i agree Tom. I don't think my tastes are any more diverse, really, than when i was 16. the thing is, i think ronans records are pretty diverse. most 'indie' people i know seem to be very 'charlatans, small faces, beatles' blahdyblah (age ranging late teens to early 30s so...).

― gareth, Tuesday, 21 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Of course it's a diverse selection of music, just not digging very deep into the diverse range of genres. Slint, PE, Miles Davis etc. are probably the most obvious artists for an eclectic music fan to choose in each genre. Of course, there's nothing wrong with that, especially when you're 18.

― Greg, Tuesday, 21 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Anyone like the scene but hate the music? Heck, I do! Secretly I listen to Fleetwood Mac bootlegs but I pretend to dig Belle&Sebastian. I haven't scored as much as I would like. But I guess that's to be expected when you blurt out "Boy, Belle did a wonderful take on Gold Dust Woman, non?". ;-)

Anyhow I was interviewing Modest Mouse and it struck me that the MM scene in the states is different from here (Belgium). Heck, even compared to the crowd at the London gig.

― nathalie, Tuesday, 21 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Ronan: I tend to not speak about my indieness here... It's just better that way. All the bands and albums you listed a few posts back are GRATE, and so on, and you know it. That said, I never minded a slim-hipped, dowdily dressed indie girl... it's her friends that are the problem.

― JM, Tuesday, 21 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

To Ronan -- fret not, I've just been a bit busy over the past couple of days (including seeing Le Head de Radio last night, which was fucking goddamn incredible, if you ask me). I'll take a proper look at it tonight!

― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 21 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

they are reviewed on pitchfork = they are indie, and i'm pretty sure everything mentioned has been.

from my experience with eighteen year old indie kids, whatever un-indie shit you like they tend to label as just 'bad' instead of 'from venus. maybe that's just me. but all the indie scenesters i know love love love alt-country.

― ethan, Tuesday, 21 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Ronan: You live in Dublin. There's your problem right there...;)

― Michael Bourke, Tuesday, 21 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

And Ryan Adams has made alt-country hipper than hell. I like him, and most the bands you listed. Just don't be under the illusion that they make your tastes that much more electic than other indie kids. And truth be told, that is a losing battle anyway. Someone will always have a more varied record collection than you so don't bother. Just like what you want. Be your own person. Live la vida loca.

― bnw, Tuesday, 21 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

This thread lost me. Errr...I love music. All I have to say.
Seems simple enough.

― Melissa W, Tuesday, 21 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I haven't been able to get out and about much these past few years (between work and various other things) so whenever I got into a band that was "indie," it was always because I genuinely liked the music. Since I'm not entirely immune to dissing music because of the types of people who listen to it (hello, Deadheads!), I might well have been turned off from some indie music had I known that certain scenesters were such pretentious twits. I guess Belle and Sebastian are a prime example of all this -- didn't know that they attracted such a sad crowd as fans when I first heard them, and as a a matter of fact didn't know that till I started reading ILM.

― Tadeusz Suchodolski, Wednesday, 22 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

This is my final answer I reckon. Ryan Adams might have made alt country hip, but I've yet to meet anyone else who likes it besides on the internet. It's certainly not hip among people of my age group, they can't see the difference between Garth Brooks and Ryan Adams to be honest. Yeah living in Dublin must be something to do with it, but I saw you say you lived in Limerick Michael, so it must be a living hell for you. I forget which one of you implied it, but I'm not looking to be all eclectic or weird or anything, I'd much rather like fucking football or something, well I do actually, but the fact is I'm telling you guys I don't know anyone who likes the bands I listed, I mean you can keep replying that all indie scenesters do and what good is it? Do you think I'm making it up or something. I should point out that I still only named a limited number of artists. So in summary, I know in the grand scheme of things I don't like fucking sonic art rock or something, but I also know I wouldn't have posted this thing in the first place if all these fans of the same music as me were everywhere. My point is that most indie scenesters I know are just scenesters who have, in reality, little or no interest in music and seem to use it as a means to distinguish themselves from "the crowd" with whom they seem to share musical tastes.

― Ronan Fitzgerald, Wednesday, 22 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I know how you feel Ronan. I'm from a backward redneck agricultural backwater in Western Canada, where nobody was into anything except drink-driving. (BTW I AM into 'sonic art rock' or whatever you're describing, which made it even harder!) I know how it feels when you discover something, only to have all these cosmopolitan sophisticates sniff and say, "Oh, that's pretty mainstream by my elite standards." So don't worry about them. Just keep your ears open and soon people will be looking to YOU as the vanguard.

― dave q, Wednesday, 22 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Well, OK, we all like some of the bands you mentioned. Well maybe not all of us, I don't know. I like Nick Drake and Public Enemy and you mentioned them. So you can talk to us.

― Tom, Wednesday, 22 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Where exactly Dave ?

― anthony, Wednesday, 22 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Thanks, Thank god this ordeal is over and I can get on with my life

― Ronan Fitzgerald, Wednesday, 22 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Well Ronan your taste in music is pretty similar to mine and I wouldnt say living in Limerick is a living hell but there aint many people I meet who have similar taste in music as me. But 3 of my best friends have a varied taste in music (one of them bought that Ryan Adams C.D. quite recently) and since I like to jabber on about music incessantly, thats pretty handy and I meet people who surprise me from time to time when I chat to them about music. I thought that whole indie snobbery thing was long gone anyway. Everyone is into all types of music this day and age I thought, right?

― Michael Bourke, Wednesday, 22 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I agree with marianna, not Baz about what is commonly understood by 'music geek'.

― Nick, Wednesday, 22 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

The DG experience: whilst in Chadwell Heath I am all-knowing music expert, all the bands I like are well obscure etc etc. After a few trips up London and discovering ILM - I KNOW NOTHING.
To take this thread off on a bit of a tangent, don't you find there are different breeds of indie kids? After scientific study I have determined there are at least two types. Type 1: got into 'indie' music through Oasis, owns everyting by the Charlatans, Shed Seven etc, currently enjoying the Strokes and the Stereophonics. Type 2: fancies themselves a bit avant-garde, will like Stereolab, Add N to X and wax lyrical about Chemikal Underground records every chance they get, always goes to All Tomorrow's Parties.

― DG, Wednesday, 22 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

What about the type that loves Plone and shits himself for Telstar?

― Mike Hanle y, Wednesday, 22 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I kind of agree with baz in the sense that the real "music geeks" are those people who are obsessive about one or two bands and seem to rely on their obsession to replace personality. Ever notice how the weirdest looking hippies and orange haired punks etc have the dullest personalities? Go figure.

― Ronan Fitzgerald, Thursday, 23 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

aargh DG, can i really be type 2? by eck lass, we allas fancied usself as a bit avant-garde, avan-a-laff more like, the big jessies (and slowly mutates into a Revolving Maconie Mothball)

― gareth, Thursday, 23 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Yeah, but Ronan, they're 'Radiohead geeks' or 'Belle & Sebastian geeks'. The point about 'music geeks' is that they're obsessive about music generally.

― Nick, Thursday, 23 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

It's perfectly possible to be obsessed with both. I am simultaneously a Radiohead geek and a music geek and I really don't consider this to be a bad thing at all.

― Melissa W, Thursday, 23 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Oh yeah, it's certainly possible to be both.

― Nick, Thursday, 23 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I love music in general, find it tiresome in semi-particular, love it again in very very particular [ie chant "people of the world every boy and every girl" is BETTER than all of soul music, but not of course better than countless moments on rekkids which are called 'soul']. I am far too old to be indie. My close friend P says I am indie, but she just means I don't dust my bookshelves very often.

― mark s, Thursday, 23 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Thats probably true, but they would have everyone believe they are music geeks, I just think its funny how people label themselves in such a contrived manner. Although theres an obvious case for me now labelling myself as someone who doesn't label themselves.

― Ronan Fitzgerald, Thursday, 23 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

eight months pass...

Well, I know what you mean, although not in the same context(I don't even know what indie means). The people who I tend to get along best with have little or no interest in the music I love(Dylan, Marley, Cash, Garcia, Bluegrass, Blues,etc) and the people who do dig the same music as me are HIPPY DIPPY FLAKY TWITS whose main goal in life (as far as I can see)is to try to ACT "COOL" "HIP" or"KIND" when they are no more so than anyone else

― alexa gunneau, Monday, 6 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

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fucking losers.

― abby, Wednesday, 8 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

she told YOU.

― jess, Wednesday, 8 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

― ethan, Thursday, 9 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Ronan what happened to your namesake who started this?

― Tom, Thursday, 9 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

"Thank god this ordeal is over and I can get on with my life"

― mark s, Thursday, 9 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I have no idea.

Statoil? What a shit job.

― Ronan, Thursday, 9 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

five years pass...

This thread is my life.

― I know, right?, Sunday, 29 July 2007 20:35 (eighteen years ago)

Y'know, if you change the music things around.

― I know, right?, Sunday, 29 July 2007 20:36 (eighteen years ago)

five months pass...

lol

― Surmounter, Sunday, 6 January 2008 13:37 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.mehmetjan.com/myspace/comments/myspace-comments/myspace-comments-1/myspace-emo-comments/myspace-emo-comments-13.jpg

― Dom Passantino, Sunday, 6 January 2008 13:38 (eighteen years ago)

ogeez i don't know which one i would be...

damn i wanna dye my hair so bad

― Surmounter, Sunday, 6 January 2008 13:41 (eighteen years ago)

i just lost my parents' house betting that this was a dom revive. nice work 'mounter.

― That one guy that hit it and quit it, Sunday, 6 January 2008 13:47 (eighteen years ago)

haha =P

― Surmounter, Sunday, 6 January 2008 13:51 (eighteen years ago)

I wonder what Ronan voted... ILX : What is The Genre Of Music You Dislike/Hate Most?

― Herman G. Neuname, Sunday, 6 January 2008 15:09 (eighteen years ago)

Man I've spent so much time registering sock-puppets for that poll.

― Noodle Vague, Sunday, 6 January 2008 15:15 (eighteen years ago)

So what's going to win it then?

― Herman G. Neuname, Sunday, 6 January 2008 15:40 (eighteen years ago)

The fans.

― Dom Passantino, Sunday, 6 January 2008 15:45 (eighteen years ago)

If I was a betting man I'd have money on Opera, with an each-way on the "I like something from all genres" cop-out. Hip Hop will post Top 3 thanx to lurkers and gothtards.

― Noodle Vague, Sunday, 6 January 2008 16:16 (eighteen years ago)

The only post I've seen on there that mention hip-hop was someone complaining about homophobia in hip-hop. But you never know with lurkers. I do however have a feeling indie will get lots of votes along with metal.

― Herman G. Neuname, Sunday, 6 January 2008 16:54 (eighteen years ago)

Hating Hip Hop is like voting Tory, K. There are lots of peeps who do it but are too ashamed to own up to it in public.

― Noodle Vague, Sunday, 6 January 2008 16:57 (eighteen years ago)

I just want to go back in time six and a half years and pinch Ronan's cheeks.

― Casuistry, Sunday, 6 January 2008 18:45 (eighteen years ago)

Hating Hip Hop is like voting Tory, K. There are lots of peeps who do it but are too ashamed to own up to it in public.

-- Noodle Vague, Sunday, January 6, 2008 4:57 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Link

i dunno, i meet just as many people who claim to liek it in public while privately being yer basic arcade fire fans.

― That one guy that hit it and quit it, Sunday, 6 January 2008 18:54 (eighteen years ago)

I wonder what kind of person wd boast about being a Tory and then secretly vote Lib Dem?

― Noodle Vague, Sunday, 6 January 2008 18:55 (eighteen years ago)

man as soon as I saw this thread title I was like "if this is somebody new I'm just going to ban 'em, fuck this shit" and then it was fucking Ronana from 6 years ago

you people

― El Tomboto, Sunday, 6 January 2008 18:56 (eighteen years ago)

(by which I mean "irish disco fiends")

― El Tomboto, Sunday, 6 January 2008 18:56 (eighteen years ago)

Anyone hate the indie, seen?

― Noodle Vague, Sunday, 6 January 2008 18:57 (eighteen years ago)

-- Ronan Fitzgerald, Monday, August 20, 2001 8:00 PM (6 years ago) Bookmark Link

o_O

― and what, Monday, 7 January 2008 02:24 (eighteen years ago)

I wonder what kind of person wd boast about being a Tory and then secretly vote Lib Dem?

David Owen when he thought he could get a cabinet job?

― Herman G. Neuname, Monday, 7 January 2008 03:02 (eighteen years ago)

someone complaining about homophobia

and skits

― kingkongvsgodzilla, Monday, 7 January 2008 03:07 (eighteen years ago)

and way too much filler?

― Herman G. Neuname, Monday, 7 January 2008 03:09 (eighteen years ago)

(was it you who posted it?)

― Herman G. Neuname, Monday, 7 January 2008 03:10 (eighteen years ago)

man as soon as I saw this thread title I was like "if this is somebody new I'm just going to ban 'em, fuck this shit"

^^good policy

― ken c, Monday, 7 January 2008 09:52 (eighteen years ago)

You guys were really nice to Ronan. Or maybe indie kids really /didn't/ listen to alt country six years ago.

― Mordechai Shinefield, Monday, 7 January 2008 10:02 (eighteen years ago)

We had Haven, we had Young Heart Attack, we had Hoggboy, they were different times, man. You weren't there, you don't know.

― Dom Passantino, Monday, 7 January 2008 10:03 (eighteen years ago)

ILXors weren't jaded then.

― Herman G. Neuname, Monday, 7 January 2008 19:25 (eighteen years ago)

2001, when you could just casually mention "the chemical brothers" without "remember the" preceding it

― burt_stanton, Monday, 7 January 2008 19:28 (eighteen years ago)

-the

― burt_stanton, Monday, 7 January 2008 19:28 (eighteen years ago)

tombot wasnt a mod either then obviously

― Herman G. Neuname, Monday, 7 January 2008 19:30 (eighteen years ago)

and you could casually mention "burt stanton" without "BAN" preceding it

― Noodle Vague, Monday, 7 January 2008 19:31 (eighteen years ago)

im a lov god

― burt_stanton, Monday, 7 January 2008 19:34 (eighteen years ago)

tombot wasnt a mod either then obviously

i was :(

― DG, Monday, 7 January 2008 19:34 (eighteen years ago)

Geir hadn't appeared yet. I remember when he did and tom ewing had to explain he knew him and wasnt a troll.

x-post
no one got banned back then, did they?

― Herman G. Neuname, Monday, 7 January 2008 19:35 (eighteen years ago)

no it was impossible!

that geir thread was revived not so long ago

― DG, Monday, 7 January 2008 19:37 (eighteen years ago)

I'd like to read that thread again.

― Herman G. Neuname, Monday, 7 January 2008 19:38 (eighteen years ago)

i can't remember which one it was though :(

it would have been funny to have banned marcello when he got shirty :)

― DG, Monday, 7 January 2008 19:43 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah I can't remember which thread it was either.

― Herman G. Neuname, Monday, 7 January 2008 19:45 (eighteen years ago)

Someone please locate that thread

― Herman G. Neuname, Monday, 7 January 2008 21:09 (eighteen years ago)

Your search - "geir is not a troll" - did not match any documents.

Suggestions:

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― Noodle Vague, Monday, 7 January 2008 21:12 (eighteen years ago)

haha

― Herman G. Neuname, Tuesday, 8 January 2008 00:57 (eighteen years ago)

Music sucks! Indie scene forever!

― Hurting 2, Tuesday, 8 January 2008 03:45 (eighteen years ago)

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