― DV (dirtyvicar), Wednesday, 27 November 2002 23:30 (twenty-three years ago)
― Ed (dali), Wednesday, 27 November 2002 23:33 (twenty-three years ago)
In other words Ed is OTM.
― Tom (Groke), Thursday, 28 November 2002 00:04 (twenty-three years ago)
― Bobo the Clown, Thursday, 28 November 2002 10:18 (twenty-three years ago)
― Alan (Alan), Thursday, 28 November 2002 10:44 (twenty-three years ago)
― caitlin (caitlin), Thursday, 28 November 2002 11:02 (twenty-three years ago)
― RJG (RJG), Thursday, 28 November 2002 11:07 (twenty-three years ago)
― DV (dirtyvicar), Thursday, 28 November 2002 11:12 (twenty-three years ago)
― Alan (Alan), Thursday, 28 November 2002 11:17 (twenty-three years ago)
Possibly.
― alext (alext), Thursday, 28 November 2002 11:18 (twenty-three years ago)
― Tom (Groke), Thursday, 28 November 2002 11:32 (twenty-three years ago)
So...I'm not a tabloid reader (Grauniad, me), and don't like their prurient attitude to the sex lives of slebs...but this was politically clever. I reckon Coypu, or whatever the Journo's name was, has gone in there with some carefully thought out messages: "Right - B*P are trying to portray themselves as just another respectable party - but I know they're really violent thugs - so I'll paint one of their members as sleazy...plus I'll give the message (previous day's Record) that if you are involved with them, however slightly, you'll lose your job, your ordinary decent colleagues will hate you....and your mug will be splashed all over the tabloids." And she didn't do it alone, of course. If we can believe Plunk, it seems that some of his colleagues were keen to help stitch him up and I can imagine that some of them must have fed Coypu some leads.
I have to say I approve for once...dirty but necessary. British history has shown that the only arguments that work when N@z1s are in your street are half bricks (Cable St, 1930s; Southall, 1980s). Maybe poor Plink is just collateral damage? Can't say. Don't know her.
But I still think the Google thing is paranoia...although my vegetarian recipe site gets hits for "Big Baps" and "Irish Pussy". (and out of paranoia I've changed these a wee bit so nobody comes looking for me ;-))
― Bobo the Clown, Thursday, 28 November 2002 11:45 (twenty-three years ago)
― Tim (Tim), Thursday, 28 November 2002 11:51 (twenty-three years ago)
― bobo, Thursday, 28 November 2002 12:03 (twenty-three years ago)
― Tim (Tim), Thursday, 28 November 2002 12:07 (twenty-three years ago)
― Alan (Alan), Thursday, 28 November 2002 12:08 (twenty-three years ago)
not all of it, I suppose.
― RJG (RJG), Thursday, 28 November 2002 12:11 (twenty-three years ago)
― Bobo The Clown, Thursday, 28 November 2002 12:27 (twenty-three years ago)
― Bobo Again, Thursday, 28 November 2002 12:31 (twenty-three years ago)
― alext (alext), Thursday, 28 November 2002 12:35 (twenty-three years ago)
of course, we already have these to some extent, in the form of the libel laws and laws against dissemination of material inciting racial hatred.
― DV (dirtyvicar), Thursday, 28 November 2002 12:52 (twenty-three years ago)
― alext (alext), Thursday, 28 November 2002 13:06 (twenty-three years ago)
I'm not really familiar with the Daily Record. I did think it was funny to see a tabloid running an article ostensibly against racism, though.
― DV (dirtyvicar), Thursday, 28 November 2002 13:12 (twenty-three years ago)
I'm not endorsing everything the Tabloids say...as anyone who's read Chomsky understands, their main job is to distract the public with footie, Big Bro and other "Necessary Illusions." But this time the story was useful. So, Ta!
The Record and the Mirror still have some vestige of left-wing tradition...they're not The Scum or The Mail...the Record was quite good after an assylum seeker got stabbed in Glasgow, for example. Can't remember what they did over Section 28, but I don't think they actively supported it.
I disagree with DV ove something. The law on inciting racial hatred doesn't equate to censorship. It's equivalent to the existing laws which maen you're not allowed to say "Hey, why don't you help me go over there and beat that guy up." Is that a denial of free speech? Afre all, the B*Ps intention was to provoke rioting - just like they'd already done that sumer in Burnley. Now THAT was misreported. You're trying to protect your family from n@z1 intimidation and they call you a rioter?
― Bobo The Clown, Thursday, 28 November 2002 13:39 (twenty-three years ago)
― Guess, Thursday, 28 November 2002 15:03 (twenty-three years ago)
Trust me, I know FOR SURE
I'm offski now, not even gonna lurk. Sorry about all this.
Thanks again for the support.
― yes its me, Thursday, 28 November 2002 15:09 (twenty-three years ago)
But yes, class and religious politics in the Scottish public sphere are more complex than just liberal / conservative. The only thoughtful piece that ran after Cardinal Winning's death (can't remember which paper this was in) pointed out that he was politically left-ish while socially in the stone ages.
You're trying to protect your family from n@z1 intimidation and they call you a rioter?
Either trolling or agent provocateur...
― alext (alext), Thursday, 28 November 2002 15:19 (twenty-three years ago)
Yes it does - just 'cos you censor something bad doesn't make said censorship into anything other than censorship. It may be the lesser of two evils but its still an infrigement of free speech.
― tigerclawskank, Thursday, 28 November 2002 15:52 (twenty-three years ago)
this is more the kind of thing I expect from Sw1mmers or ANaLers (do we have to googleguard against them as well?) - you stand accused Bobo, do I win a prize?
meanwhile, wouldn't it be great if a muckraking journo came to ILX in search of easy muck to fill a story, only then they got sucked into our world and started their own threads about 1970s comics and asking what Fremme Neppe Venette meant and stuff?
― DV (dirtyvicar), Thursday, 28 November 2002 16:01 (twenty-three years ago)
(sorry if this has been said before)
― ron (ron), Thursday, 28 November 2002 17:38 (twenty-three years ago)
― tigerclawskank, Thursday, 28 November 2002 17:46 (twenty-three years ago)
If we can't talk about the far right then the terror1sts have already won!
― DV (dirtyvicar), Thursday, 28 November 2002 18:05 (twenty-three years ago)
― James Blount (James Blount), Thursday, 28 November 2002 19:34 (twenty-three years ago)
paranoia, paranoia...but i'm really not trying to troll...just expressing an opinion. i'm asuming "yes it's me" is this plinky person from other threads, who i've really no opinion on. but really, bobo is just bobo.
If DV is "accusing" me of being in the ANL - actually, no. I'm proud to say I was once, in the days of RAR. I don't see it as an extremist group, though. Jaysus - it was founded by Peter Hain, and he's senior New Labour!
Is this not a topic we should have opinions on, or something?
― Bobo The Clown, Thursday, 28 November 2002 23:20 (twenty-three years ago)
― Graham (graham), Friday, 29 November 2002 11:46 (twenty-three years ago)
(That really will scupper him if David Blunkett finds out - ho ho).
― Pete (Pete), Friday, 29 November 2002 11:54 (twenty-three years ago)
and where does Disneyland, Bangbus, and the Bilderburg Group fit into all of this?
― DV (dirtyvicar), Friday, 29 November 2002 12:16 (twenty-three years ago)
― alext (alext), Friday, 29 November 2002 12:17 (twenty-three years ago)
http://www.progress.demon.co.uk/Fun/Cat-Dim-Sims.html
― OCP (OCP), Friday, 29 November 2002 17:42 (twenty-three years ago)
hope this helps.
― doom-e, Friday, 29 November 2002 17:48 (twenty-three years ago)
Google must pay Canadian woman Google must pay Canadian woman $2,250 for showing her cleavage in Street View,250 for showing her cleavage in Street View
― anything but a martyr (dandydonweiner), Thursday, 30 October 2014 00:28 (eleven years ago)
lol @ google
― welltris (crüt), Monday, 10 August 2015 21:41 (ten years ago)
giving goofy kid names like alphabet to your massive corporation to make them seem innocuous is a pretty good business decision.
like I feel like half of uber's problems come from its name. if it had been called funcarz nobody would be giving it any shit.
― iatee, Monday, 10 August 2015 22:40 (ten years ago)
CarHitler
― flopson, Monday, 10 August 2015 22:47 (ten years ago)
never heil a cab again
― iatee, Monday, 10 August 2015 22:50 (ten years ago)
alphabet sure sounds more interesting than something like GOOGLE CAYMAN HOLDINGS LLC or something similar they could have gone with
― panettone for the painfully alone (mayor jingleberries), Tuesday, 11 August 2015 00:31 (ten years ago)
lol
― calstars, Tuesday, 11 August 2015 00:44 (ten years ago)
Weird to move toward marginalizing the name of your company that also happens to be a household word, a noun and a verb all in one.
― calstars, Tuesday, 11 August 2015 00:45 (ten years ago)
no one's gonna start calling anything alphabet
― flopson, Tuesday, 11 August 2015 00:48 (ten years ago)
There isn't anything to call Alphabet though, it's (as I understand it) just an umbrella company? All the core stuff (search / email / maps / AdSense) will stay Google, it's the mad scientist stuff that will become other companies under Alphabet.
On the one hand the connection with Google would have helped a lot for the situations in the future when they're going to say a very big "trust us" - but then that probably works both ways, there isn't going to be a campaign to Switch To Bing the first time an Alphabet company kills someone.
On a more practical side, I assumed AdSense bankrolled pretty much everything?
― Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 11 August 2015 08:56 (ten years ago)
They should totally have called it Umbrella though.
― Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 11 August 2015 08:57 (ten years ago)
What is Alphabet? Alphabet is mostly a collection of companies. The largest of which, of course, is Google. This newer Google is a bit slimmed down, with the companies that are pretty far afield of our main internet products contained in Alphabet instead. What do we mean by far afield? Good examples are our health efforts: Life Sciences (that works on the glucose-sensing contact lens), and Calico (focused on longevity). Fundamentally, we believe this allows us more management scale, as we can run things independently that aren’t very related.
remember, there is nothing silicon valley-style projects can't solve, including death
― Upright Mammal (mh), Tuesday, 11 August 2015 14:16 (ten years ago)
what do we mean by far afield? many such cases!
― j., Tuesday, 11 August 2015 14:18 (ten years ago)
xp They are getting into health care and biotech, but I don't know if zombies is the way go for the real life Umbrella Corporation
― Nhex, Tuesday, 11 August 2015 14:52 (ten years ago)
This actually happened, right? I'm preparing a report at work about a Google executive and I want to make sure before I submit it to the president that all this Alphabet shit isn't just manifestations of early-onset dementia on my part.
― how's life, Wednesday, 6 January 2016 12:59 (ten years ago)
2013 joke is 2018 reality Google is now using its AI technology to help with drone warfare https://t.co/g8R3FO1ZRc by @lhfang pic.twitter.com/KRmD8JfpuQ— Jon Schwarz (@schwarz) March 6, 2018
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 7 March 2018 16:36 (eight years ago)
ya this should be posted on the worst tech companies thread, mostly because i strongly believe google is the devil
https://theintercept.com/2018/03/06/google-is-quietly-providing-ai-technology-for-drone-strike-targeting-project/
good job morb
― F# A# (∞), Wednesday, 7 March 2018 17:24 (eight years ago)
Google NYC employees who arrived at the office early this morning stood in a line to test their badges-- if light turned red, it meant you had been laid off. if green, you were safe. 👎— Daniel Roberts (@readDanwrite) January 20, 2023
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 20 January 2023 15:52 (three years ago)
good post for the is the US a dystopia thread too
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 20 January 2023 16:53 (three years ago)
so fucking broken
https://i.postimg.cc/W1PYBHCz/Screen-Shot-2024-01-18-at-3-48-20-PM.png
if a man can't get reliable information on Joe Satriani what was the point of the Internet?
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 18 January 2024 21:51 (two years ago)
haha, there was probably plenty of Satriani content online in '97, when the internet was mostly amateur guitarists from what I can remember
― Jordan s/t (Jordan), Thursday, 18 January 2024 21:53 (two years ago)
i'm joking but still i feel like i come across tons of these types of totally fucked results now way more than ever
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 18 January 2024 21:58 (two years ago)
I was a Trader Joe's last night, I heard one of the stock clerks talking to another about fitting a tele neck to a strat body
― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 18 January 2024 21:59 (two years ago)
Satriani did play with Deep Purple for a few months, after they kicked out Blackmore, but good luck explaining to AI why that isn't the reason someone would be searching his name.
― Halfway there but for you, Thursday, 18 January 2024 22:02 (two years ago)
google is just living in that alternate dimension where Satriani signed on as a permanent member
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 18 January 2024 22:19 (two years ago)
https://www.404media.co/google-news-is-boosting-garbage-ai-generated-articles/
― badpee pooper (Eric H.), Thursday, 18 January 2024 22:35 (two years ago)
i hope i die mansplaining blackmore's night to chatgtp
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 18 January 2024 22:41 (two years ago)
https://www.404media.co/google-news-is-boosting-garbage-ai-generated-articles🕸/
― B. Amato (Boring, Maryland), Friday, 19 January 2024 04:54 (two years ago)
To add to the broken-ness, this used to be a quick conversion via search and now it's uh... off by a couple orders of magnitude:
https://i.imgur.com/AXzT9Zf.png
― citation needed (Steve Shasta), Thursday, 8 February 2024 18:23 (two years ago)
what's the verdict on the new 'AI Overview' that nobody asked for, and is impossible to disable?
Apparently it said you can add glue to pizza to stop the cheese from slipping off
― Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 13 November 2024 19:40 (one year ago)
my personal verdict is that it's yet another great reason to avoid using Google for any searches, if I can get adequate results from DuckDuckGo. afaics, Google just massively increased its carbon footprint by adding this AI slop to (nearly) every search and for what? it's mostly useless junk. but they've spent too much $$$$$ chasing AI to back off this move unless people start boycotting them for it.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Thursday, 14 November 2024 02:32 (one year ago)
Using the "web" option on Google gives search results without most of the crap.
― Kim Kimberly, Thursday, 14 November 2024 06:44 (one year ago)
More on that here: Does One Line Fix Google?
― Kim Kimberly, Thursday, 14 November 2024 06:49 (one year ago)
I find the AI overview scary rather than just wasteful and annoying because it shows up at the top and a lot of people only really look at the top result for their searches, I'm sure many don't even realise it's AI.
― Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 14 November 2024 09:51 (one year ago)
I agree - hardly anyone is going to check it. My 9yo has had early inoculation against it though - it summarised some information about a Mario game that he KNEW was wrong because it missed something out. that will stay with him for life lolI've been burnt by Google summarising info years ago - I went to a department store it told me was open because it had incorrectly scraped some opening hours data. I will never trust again!
― kinder, Thursday, 14 November 2024 10:47 (one year ago)