“The pathway to human thriving” - U.S. POLITICS NOVEMBER 2025

Let’s get after it

That reminds me, I need to renew my thriving license

Thriving Ms. Daisy

Take a break, Thriver 8

She Thrives Me Crazy

Rheumatoid Arthrivis

I can't thrive 55

Thrive Six Seven

Tired: Hive mind
Wired: Thrive mind

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when the wicked rise to power, people go into hiding; but when the wicked perish, the righteous thrive.
Proverbs 28:28

i just thought "thrive always sounds so biblical why do i think that?" (because if there's a thing i don't know it's the bible)

i think the bible is clear about what needs to happen here

when are we going to do the general strike?

I see people posting about a general strike and the first thing I wonder is, who does anyone expect to organize such a thing? And who do you think is going to participate? For a lot of people with no job security, which is a big chunk of the U.S. population, a general strike could risk losing a job. There would be a huge push from the right to find and fire anyone who participates. And I just can't see it reaching a scale that could have much real impact. I get that people are desperate for effective action, and I am too, I just think that unless somebody has a practical strategy for organizing a general strike, posting wistfully about it (which I see a lot) doesn't really accomplish anything.

And to be clear, I'm not opposed to a general strike if there's effective organization and leadership. I just don't see anything or anyone out there showing that kind of capacity.

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/sic

xp it would be an unprecedented action so its hard to visualize how it would go down.

putting this out there, maybe a blue state governor can encourage their constituents to not pay their taxes en masse. No government? No taxes!

trump threatening to invade Nigeria now

Those Princes should have returned his emails!

One has

Diamonds in his pockets

Man the military is going to be stretched thin invading all those countries and major US cities

Well they can always bring back the draft. Pete Hegseth would love to draft the kids of every woke libtard in the country.

Those kids aren't hetero enough for him tho.

But he’d love the hazing.

yup

Jasmine Crockett calling for a full investigation into the mad king's declining health

She's sent a letter to the White House physician as the kickoff.

Quotes:

Since his inauguration, President Trump has demonstrated concerning physical symptoms – including visible swelling in the ankles and lower extremities, and discoloration of the hands – that have raised legitimate medical questions that demand explanation. Equally troubling are repeated cognitive and behavioral lapses. The President has, on multiple occasions, demonstrated difficulty remembering basic facts about his own prior administration, such as forgetting that he appointed Federal Reserve Chair Jerome Powell. The President also seems unable to explain his close relationship with convicted rapist and pedophile Jeffrey Epstein. The President may simply be an elderly, frail man with a poor memory.

President Trump is also known for his exceptionally short attention span and his well-documented disdain for reading briefing materials, often preferring verbal summaries in lieu of written intelligence or policy documents – which raises questions about his ability to absorb and retain complex information. Moreover, the President routinely appears lethargic – falling asleep during important events, such as the court proceedings where he was found liable for sexual
abuse and defamation. Or, when he appeared to struggle to stay awake during the funeral of His Holiness Pope Francis.

...

In recent years, vulgar outbursts have become common for President Trump. For example, on October 19, 2024, while addressing a crowd in Latrobe, Pennsylvania, President Trump began fantasizing over Arnold Palmer’s genitalia. President Trump stated, “Arnold Palmer was all man, and I say that in all due respect to women, and I love women [...] I refuse to say it, but when he took showers with the other pros, they came out of there, they said, ‘Oh my God, that’s unbelievable.” Separately, on November 01, 2024, President Trump pantomimed oral sex when speaking at a rally in Milwaukee. In another demonstrable episode of the President’s failing mental health, he seemed to believe that 88% of the American population died of fentanyl-related drug overdoses in 2024.

In an embarrassing attempt to conceal the President's inability to construct complete, coherent sentences, the White House has removed official transcripts of the President’s public remarks from its government website, replacing them with selected videos of his public appearances. As you well know, past presidential administrations of both parties routinely publicized the official transcripts of the president’s remarks – likely because the respective presidents had the wherewithal to coherently and constructively make it through a rudimentary sentence or pronounce the word “Acetaminophen.”

...

The President appears unwell, and as the Physician to the President, you have a solemn obligation to inform the American people whether the sitting President of the United States of America is medically and cognitively capable of fulfilling his constitutional responsibilities.

good for her. this shit should really be a bigger story. the way he talks reminds me so much of people in nursing homes. yes I know Biden came off that way during the debate but at least what he was saying more or less made sense. Trump is barely coherent right now. I know he was not exactly a paragon of clarity in his first term but its way worse now. also, he's saying shit like this:

https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3m4osr6d7ji2p

I know Trump supporters have swallowed a ton of shit over the years but "I pardoned this crypto billionaire and I don't know why or even who he is" can't play well even with these people, especially since I know for a fact that they are literally just paying him for the pardon, I know because I know a person who has done it

posting wistfully about it (which I see a lot) doesn't really accomplish anything.

am i posting wistfully? how is anybody supposed to accomplish any real change if we don't at least talk about it? admitting defeat in advance isn't it. nor is it helpful to frame it as some kind of anti-poor, anti-working people stance. it's the status quo that's harming and indeed creating "people with no job security"

I know for a fact that they are literally just paying him for the pardon, I know because I know a person who has done it

Ok you HAVE to explain this

yeah i let that age overnight but that is good teaser shit

am i posting wistfully? how is anybody supposed to accomplish any real change if we don't at least talk about it? admitting defeat in advance isn't it. nor is it helpful to frame it as some kind of anti-poor, anti-working people stance. it's the status quo that's harming and indeed creating "people with no job security"

I don't know if your post was wistful, but I've seen a fair number of posts on social media about a general strike — including from people dismissive of the No Kings protests, saying, "Fuck this, we need a general strike!" I also saw a New York Times editor posting dismissively about No Kings (to justify the NYT's downplayed coverage of it), saying, "It's not like these people are organizing a general strike."

Which is a fine bit of internet hardmanning, but a.) it's not an either-or between other forms of protest and a general strike, and b.) I've yet to see anyone offer any kind of realistic strategy or scenario for what a general strike in the U.S. could like, who would organize it, what are the obstacles to it, none of that. If people want to organize a general strike, they should get to it! I just don't see any signs that anyone's serious about it, so far it's just a thing to say online, often by way of denigrating other efforts.

And yes I think worrying about people losing their jobs is a good thing to consider!

ok. it doesn't really matter to me what somebody from the NYT thinks. or what you've seen on social media. i am not dismissing No Kings. nor am i trying to be "hard" on the internet. i am having conversations in my circles about this, i'm encouraging you all to do the same. the practical considerations you have brought up are real but they are not insurmountable. we need to be working every day to build a movement that can produce real and lasting change. we don't have to worry about losing jobs right now, let's cross that bridge when we come to it. i trust that, if and when it comes to that, people will make the decision that works best for their own lives.

for now, general strike is going to be my tax returns. i want to know where and when the general strike is. thanks for asking thoughtful questions about it. i will give thought to what you have said. i am not a labor organizer or an anything organizer, so i do not foresee myself in a leadership role when it comes to this, but i don't think noting my interest and enthusiasm for this is without value

we don't have to worry about losing jobs right now, let's cross that bridge when we come to it.

I think you kinda do? Or at least explain to people what they risk.

an effective general strike would require collaboration among a mostly unionized workforce. idk try starting a union before you fantasize about a general strike (unless you're already in one)

idk maybe i'm wrong about this

i don't think noting my interest and enthusiasm for this is without value

Sure! And I'd be thrilled for somebody with organizing and leadership capacity to try to organize a general strike. Even just the effort could be useful, whatever it produces. I just don't see anybody remotely working in that direction, there isn't any infrastructure that I can see that could support something that large-scale, and almost all the chatter I see about it just feels like lefty cosplay to me, like "Well this is what they do in Europe ..." It's what they do in Europe sometimes, under specific circumstances that galvanize specific groups of people, it doesn't just materialize from some generalized dissatisfaction (although that's a necessary ingredient).

Mostly I don't think enough Americans are mad enough about what's happening to create the necessary conditions for a general strike. I wish they were. But that in itself gets back to the leadership void on the left. If there were more leadership out there making a consistent coherent case for public outrage, that could help create those conditions. Without leadership and organization, it's just really hard to do anything, and that's the situation everyone on the left is in now, from center-left Dems to labor to civil rights groups etc etc etc. There are a lot of good smaller-scale things happening, there are absolutely people resisting in various ways where they can, but there's very little cohesion or vision.

I know Trump supporters have swallowed a ton of shit over the years but "I pardoned this crypto billionaire and I don't know why or even who he is" can't play well even with these people

It will play just fine with his supporters. They want Trump to get richer and they want Trump to get more corrupt, not less

The more out in the open it is the better and the more the people who dislike it dislike it even better

otm

this feeling that there's going to be a straw that broke the camels back doesnt work for camels that are straw enthusiasts

If anybody remembers Sgt Bilko and his gag where he'd say "hold me back", that's what 2025 discussion around general strikes reminds me of.

General strikes work, that part is unambiguous. Saying "they'll never work here" as a repeated kneejerk defense is thought-terminating defeatism (nobody is doing that *here*, but I see it in the wild a lot).

However - the loudest cries for a general strike 9-10 months ago were from organizers who were seriously talking about looking into a long-term strategy for them. Now, the loudest cries come from people who prefer to legitimize doing nothing while maintaining righteous indignation.

How many times do we see "<xxx> is pointless, we need a general strike or nothing will happen" as a means of discrediting protesting. Do I think in my heart of hearts that the people saying this, when asked point blank, have actually considered the scope of the sacrifice they'd be making? Not at all.

Many of these people don't get that part of making a general strike work is creating a community that can provide for and help mitigate the individual damage people and their families will suffer. Otherwise, all oligarchs would have to do is just wait you out until you had no food left to eat, or have AI do your job and proclaim business as usual. That shit doesn't happen overnight, and a badly planned general strike would be more damaging than not having one at all.

We come from a culture that has successfully villainized unions and community organizers for centuries, and things aren't bad enough for such a large chunk of the country to be willing to make the sacrifice, so the effort to have one of these will probably take a few....years, I would say. that doesn't mean it shouldn't be pursued, though. it just means people saying "where's the general strike?" every 5 minutes should maybe stfu for a second.

yup

xp @ tipsy: yeah. there are a lot of good small-scale things happening. i'm part of some of them, i'm sure you are too. but as i said, i think that voicing a preference, or articulating a preferred vision for action on a national scale, is not without value. and i'm expressing this, and asking others to do the same, precisely because i'm hoping it will make a course of more action more legible and thereby facilitate meaningful leadership.

xp @ Alfred: my point is that we don't have to wring our hands about a hypothetical before we even have a hint of an embryonic plan. people have been making gains through strikes for a long time, and strikes also carry risks. i understand this. like i said, i am not a labor organizer. i am also not waving away anyone's concerns. i'm just saying let's talk about it. "but people could lose their jobs" seems like a bad reason not to talk about a strike, since this is risk of every strike that has ever occurred.

it's the same thing as 'why isn't every American in the streets?'.

yes, of course the math checks out, if there were 200 million Americans that all walked out into the streets right now, that would terrify the government. but part of being willing to be out there is risk analysis. the average person is more willing to take larger risks if you are more confident in the outcome of the action you are taking, plus there is a greater number of people also taking the risk with you.

the diehards show up first, the people who show up later are the ones who tentatively watch the television to decide if they want to join. If they see big numbers showing up on tv broadcasts, this might galvanize them to show up, be more confident, possibly feeling ashamed that they're not already out there. Conversely, if people see footage of teargas, people being hit with batons, or being shot by ICE or an armed agitator, they might decide to pump the brakes.

this is why the No Kings protests keep growing in size, because organically people are seeing the benefits outweight the risks and are leaving their comfort zones more and more to join. but we also do no favors by screaming in frustration that everybody isn't out there all at once.

saying "where were you 10 years ago" is the type of razz you give someone for like, not being into Metallica until the Black album, not like....this.

part of making a general strike work is creating a community that can provide for and help mitigate the individual damage people and their families will suffer

this is 100% correct.

i'm not aware of the kind of "discrediting" discourse that you're referring to, so all i ask is not to be lumped in with social media posts that i haven't read and am not responsible for

i'm definitely not referring to you w/ my comments, to be clear

xp

Yes, that's fair, but as Neanderthal says, that's the context a lot of us in which a lot of us are seeing talk of a general strike.

And to be clear, I'm not saying anyone shouldn't talk about a general strike just because it could lead to some people losing their jobs. I'm just saying that the prospect of people losing their jobs is one of the things that has to be baked into any such conversation, especially in an almost entirely nonunionized workforce.

Anyway, the leadership void, the lack of an energetic, coherent, consistent voice and force out there with a real counter-agenda is to me the real issue. Because whether you want a general strike, a solid electoral strategy, an effective communications front, none of those can happen without good leadership.

that's the context a lot of us in which a lot of us are seeing talk of a general strike.

Ok you HAVE to explain this

― This dark glowing bohemian coffeehouse (Boring, Maryland), Sunday, November 2, 2025 11:16 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

yeah i let that age overnight but that is good teaser shit

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https://www.cnbc.com/2025/03/28/trump-pardon-bitmex-crypto-exchange-money-laundering.html

I know all three of these people. one better than the other two. I'm not sure about the whole story but apparently they happened to know the same lawyer who got Ross Ulbricht a pardon who I guess was connected with Pam Bondi who basically told them straight up that a sizeable donation will get you a pardon. not just the people involved but the company as a whole, apparently this is the first time in history an entire corporation got a presidential pardon

I find it to be an incredible coincidence that, just when Trump humiliatingly failed to bury the Epstein files, when his popularity is at another low point, when all signs are pointing toward a Democratic wave in the midterms (and Brannon is saying “if we lose the midterms we all go to jail”), when Democrats are polling ahead of Republicans on everything except crime and immigration, when the administration has tried and failed over and over again to use the National Guard and ICE to provoke widespread unrest and violence, when they have tried and failed to frame massive, peaceful anti-Trump protests as insurrection in order to justify a military surge, when even the courts are rejecting the National Guard deployments, when MAGA is starting to see defections and Trump is getting called a lame duck all over the news- just when everything seems to be slipping away from his iron grip on power and control… an immigrant that Biden let into the country shoots two National Guardsmen. Which is absolutely fucking awful for them, their families, everyone who loves them, and this whole country- please don’t think I’m trying to diminish that. But this whole thing is too convenient all around for the administration and it feels like a Bannon operation. I can’t believe that this is all on the level. All in one swoop they can get the Epstein files out of the news, swing public opinion back over toward the “tough on crime and immigration” GOP, and justify accelerated immigration crackdowns and military surges to “violent” Democratic cities.

or this could just be like Charlie Kirk and vanish after two weeks

yeah I'm not worried yet

there was an afghani man who collaborated with the US during the war and had immigrated here and was seeking asylum, who had some kind of mental breakdown and essentially committed suicide by pulling a gun on some cops during a traffic stop in VA back in april. i didn’t see much reporting on it but i have to imagine this will be seized on by rw media

genuinely feels like trust in trump is so low that attempts to manufacture consent for broader repression has a real ceiling

Xp they will try to capitalize on this but it won’t work. The momentum is against trump.

i think this will stick better than kirk because it’s easier to see the victims as victims, and provides direct causal link to the big racist xenophobic fears maga craves

If the National Guard had a good reason for being in DC, it would be a useful narrative. But everyone, especially everyone in DC, knows there's no reason for them to be there.

Despite what I said earlier the day before thanksgiving is a terrible time to do some sort of manufactured outrage

They tried Bidening that but the DC Afghani got settled status in February 2025!

Afghani is the currency #sic

I find it to be an incredible coincidence that,

Yawn

AFGHAN.

Today I am not in the fucking mood to be fucking corrected by any fucker.

It’s tragic this happened, but it isn’t going to make America fall back in love with MAGA. It has nothing to do with democrats.

This happened because democrats didn't want a standing army in ultra violent DC hellscape something something...

They’ll try but it sounds idiotic.

Everything they say sounds idiotic, and I'm optimistic that more people are catching on to that.

I kind of think that the maga movement is so (to use a somewhat dramatic word) nihilistic that it becomes difficult for them to exploit things like this or Charlie Kirk’s death in the way they might like to. Their “base”largely want to watch football and drive their big trucks and yell at people they perceive as their social inferiors. They’re not much inclined to get weepy over the deaths of strangers.

This kind of stuff thrills them because they see it purely as an opportunity to turn the screws on DC and Afghan immigrants. They don't give a shit about the actual people involved.

https://www.rawstory.com/dc-shooting-trump/

"It's in the early stages, obviously, but do you plan to attend Sarah's funeral?" asked a reporter.

"I haven't thought about it yet, but it's certainly something I could conceive of," said Trump. "I love West Virginia. You know, I won West Virginia by one of the biggest margins of any president anywhere.

it genuinely blows my mind that there are people out there who still like this man

Most people never see these little hateful tidbits he's constantly spewing.

This is terrible for immigrant afghans. My wife helped resettle a few and a good friend in the military had just got his translator moved over here right before trump came into office. They don’t deserve this shit

Otm

recently for work i interviewed an afghan guy who grew up in kabul during the u.s. occupation. as a teenager, he talked his way into working at a shipping center that delivered packages to and from the military base, which then to a job with a defense contractor. through that job, he met an american who helped him get a scholarship to study in the united states. he's now in his 30s and has lived in florida for the past decade working as a real estate agent and basically living the dream. he's just a super gregarious and optimistic guy. i've been thinking about him a lot in the last couple of days.

Hegseth order on first Caribbean boat strike, officials say: Kill them all (WaPo)

As two men clung to a stricken, burning ship targeted by SEAL Team 6, the Joint Special Operations commander followed the defense secretary’s order to leave no survivors.

Evil.

Hagueseth

oh great, now he wants to invade Oregon

https://archive.ph/fnWyK this Intercept article from the sept 10 is linked there and makes it more clear that we know what we know.

you can theoretically extradite americans for murder to colombia, but not for political offenses. charge wisely, colombia.

Oregon what now? Not a good joke if so.

I'm not gonna link or copy the post here but yeah

complete unhinged ranting 24/7 at this point

‪Phil Lewis‬
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· 17m
WASHINGTON (AP) — Trump administration says it is halting all asylum decisions in wake of National Guard shooting.

sheesh just saw what he called Tim Walz

yeah

‪Eric Michael Garcia‬
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· 4h
h/t

Michael Bohacek, a Republican state senator from Indiana who has a daughter with down syndrome, says he will vote against redistricting in Indiana after Trump used the word "retarded."

Bonacek's statement is worth reading, unlike Trump's Truth Social posts

WASHINGTON (AP) — Trump administration says it is halting all asylum decisions in wake of National Guard shooting.

i bet trump using that word to describe walz will win the next 17 hours of the cycle, but how ^^ transparently xenophobic/racist^ is that, fully understanding that it is absolutely ridiculous to equate one person’s actions with ‘anyone from anywhere other the united states'

and there’s a logic to the most racist and xenophobic person to dominate, because i guess if you’re gonna cross that line you have to cross it with so much frequentcy, so much violent boasting bullshit that eventually it only registers as yet another data point to something that’s as obvious and inevitable as pain

Release the MRI

oh great, now he wants to invade Oregon

Fake, apparently, though I don't know how the debunker was able to tell.

thank you, I was wondering why I couldn't find any corroborating links

It's hard to tell how much this matters but it matters some:

President Donald Trump’s job approval rating has fallen five percentage points to 36%, the lowest of his second term, while disapproval has risen to 60%. The latest decline follows three months of stability, with 40% to 41% of Americans expressing approval of his handling of the presidency. His prior second-term low point in approval was a statistically similar 37% in July, and his all-time low was 34% in 2021, at the end of his first term after the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol.

https://news.gallup.com/poll/699221/trump-approval-rating-drops-new-second-term-low.aspx

halting all asylum decisions

Does this include the South Africans?

Kristi Noem w/a late entry for the December thread title: "We will absolutely persecute you" (fromhttps://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3m6u727bnye2h)

https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3m6u727bnye2h

"We absolutely will persecute you", even.

The White House's new "Media Offenders" page is pretty funny. They currently rank the WaPo as their #1 Offender, which is the biggest boost in credibility the paper's had all year.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/mediabias/

"We will absolutely persecute you" -- U.S. POLITICS DECEMBER 2025

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