Things you like that are not socially acceptable to like

Watching several Woody Allen and Roman Polanski films at home.

TS Eliot

otm

The greatest hits of Mr. Gary Glitter

he's a good test as to whether a person's actions can ruin their art, rock & roll pt 2 works so well because it's so filthy and aggressive.

Lawrence of Arabia - the movie

Not socially acceptable? Part of what fascinates me about it is the mix of racism, imperialism, and queerness. I wish Edward Said had written about it!

Philip Larkin
Novelty D&B artist Mistabishi, who turned out to be a wrongun, if you are not into D&B you will not have an opinion about him

Actually most of my choices here would be only not socially acceptable on ILX due to being unacceptably normie/basic, in the outside world I could happily say I like Wallace & Gromit.

Actually thought of a few more musicians who turned out to be nazi cunts - Ten Walls, Pogo, John Maus. Even maybe Ariel Pink though I only like that one LP.

I think my honest answer here would actually have to be strikes - tube strikes in particular get people very angry and also everyone assumes everyone's on the same page.That being said I know the demographics of this place and that this answer is almost bragging within that context. I think the next closest thing is enjoying a lot of old timey brit stuff that most ppl in the UK now find embarassing? I was taken to task at a FAP for my love of Kenneth Horne.

Unacceptable on ILX though, man do I have a bunch: Beautiful South had some great tunes. Dave Marsh writes beautifully about the music he enjoys. Gilles Peterson. The very concept of stand up comedy and many of its practioners.

John Updike

Who doesn't like Kenneth Horne?!!??

I went to see Swans recently

I think the next closest thing is enjoying a lot of old timey brit stuff that most ppl in the UK now find embarassing?

I like a lot of that stuff too and I'm not convinced the GBP find it especially embarrassing either, ILXors probably do though.

Carry On films

Almost everything Ted Nugent recorded up to and including Weekend Warriors

(xp) I don't know, I'd say Carry On films are still socially acceptable - Benny Hill maybe not so much, although I do like a lot of Benny Hill.

I like Norman Wisdom too, he is definitely unacceptable on ILX but I doubt he's socially unacceptable.

grimes

Grimes and Dubai.

Xp - I think Lawrence of Arabia definitely has been deemed problematic because of imperialism, colonialism, white actors playing Arabs, and Lawrence’s politics. The queer subtext probably is the key thing that hasn’t put it totally unacceptable to like. …. and that is almost as epic as the cinematography. There is also a Realpolitik aspect that I like a lot as a history nerd.

I defended the artistry of Keanu Reeves when he was nothing but a punchline

American composer Frank Zappa

Early Valiant comics

Ska

The possibility of getting away with crimes.

I haven't been able to stomach Norman Wisdom gurning man-child act after reading the 'allegations of inappropriate behaviour' given here:

https://www.thegoonshow.co.uk/wiki/index.php?title=Norman_Wisdom

I think you could spend a long time asking random strangers in the street if they knew who Kenneth Horne was before you got a positive response.

kids in bars

Rugby Union

bryson dechambeau

I think you could spend a long time asking random strangers in the street if they knew who Kenneth Horne was before you got a positive response.

Ironically that is also something I could see happening on a Kenneth Horne show!

Farting

Watching several Woody Allen and Roman Polanski films at home.

Yeah, I've basically shut up about Woody in the last decade-plus ever since I got told off by a grad school colleague for quoting Annie Hall.

Bob Barker hosting The Price is Right

Hannibal Burress

Spending Thanksgiving alone

bryan johnson (who is now in the grimes extended universe too)

Taking away some people's free speech by force if necessary, because of the precedent it sets.

John Adams.

I went to see Swans recently

I perversely kind of want to go see Mark Kozelek when he plays in town in a few months.

America's Next Top Model

Despite them probably having viewpoints completely contrary to everything I believe in, I still listen to a bunch of cancelled noise guys

Bruno Mars
The musical output of Morrissey
Foie gras
Saying words like "railed" in polite conversation

I also like kids in bars (but not kids on planes or public transport)

I think of Matt Damon as an excellent actor and regard him as highly as pretty-much any other actor you could name

CDs
award shows
the post office

wired headphones

I love my big wired headphones

And my CDs

CDs >>> vinyl

Garlic from a garlic press. Also, jarlic.

Re: garlic. Garlic pulp is alleged to cook too quickly to properly develop its flavours while sautéeing it. Marcella Hazan had the first and final word on this insofar as European cooking is concerned— cooks are always mincing. Many Hazan recipes ask for oil to be infused with whole, slightly crushed (with a chopping knife) garlic cloves (over heat), cloves removed afterward— I myself find the resultant infusion to be rather weak and hardly worth the time, and typically I mince the cloves and leave them in afterward.

Pressed garlic is much more common in Chinese recipes. I have on occasion pressed garlic when making dishes that require enormous amounts of it (mapo tofu asks for 20 cloves) but I personally do prefer to mince the garlic even when making Chinese dishes.

There is no topic upon which Marcella Hazan is more charmingly vituperous than the topic of microwaves; my own sensitivity to feelings of “I’m being exposed to dangerous radiation” when I’m around one has caused me to never own one. Hazan has her own reasons, it’s worth looking it up, it’s brilliant writing. Personally I think there is no better way to reheat leftover Chinese food— a Chinese man I dated told me that “not having a microwave in the kitchen was anti-Asian” and I think it’s a fair point; I still don’t own one, but will use a microwave for that purpose if one is available. Aside from Chinese food I will always reheat leftovers on a stovetop or in the oven as is appropriate

The one thing I miss about having a microwave (it broke and I decided to keep the counter space) is reheating Chinese takeaway. I use a wok now and that does a fine job but it's not as easy.

I was driving some errands this morning and thought about “eating boogers”. I pick my nose and eat my boogers, in private, fairly regularly. Basically most of my body waste will be eaten (aside from urine and feces, obv)— scabs, semen, earwax, sleep dust. I pare certain calloused areas on my lesser toes and will chew the parings. I chew on toenail clippings.

I was thinking about all of this. There is an expectation of shame that a person is expected to feel about the propriety of booger-eating (and all the rest). I definitely don’t do it in public, or around a domestic partner— I have seen people eating their boogers and it’s ugly to watch. But the desire to engage in this phagia feels like it comes from an instinctive place, and I puzzled over why there’s this internal shame about it.

Personally my desire to express a tendency to “eat boogers” feels borne out of a place adjacent to queerness— is that weird? Like, I like getting railed— why is an expression of this desire at all improper or unwelcome when so many heteros are walking around with their children in tow, little living gold stars as proof of “a good railing”? A foundational part of queer liberation is to express an instinctive desire and accept that this desire can be felt (and pursued) without accompanying feelings of shame; why mightn’t this same logic apply to eating boogers and so on?

tl;dr: eating boogers is queer-coded

There was a woman on that show Alone who claimed that eating boogers helped her retain water bc they were salty. She ate them with relish on camera.
She did not win but it wasn’t on account of her booger consumption.

I chew on toenail clippings

I def didn't see that one comig

patchouli

xxp finally another booger eater! i feel less alone. ofc i only do it in private. weirdly the most grief i get from anyone about eating my boogers is my cat. something about the sound of it? he chews me out, and i keep doing it to egg him on.

re: being queer and eating boogers, whatever flavor of sexuality exists in samuel delaney's books might support your thesis.

Burying the lede with "scabs"!

(But all good, solid thesis)

Scabs I can understand, but earwax? I can't judge because I've tried it, but the flavor was perhaps too sophisticated for my liking.

fgti, I had boogers on the brain a few weeks back: BOOGERS - Where do you put them?

I have accidentally tasted earwax on a couple of occasions and it was bitter and nasty.

I have to assume all of this is good for building immunity, eating the body's own dust bunnies.

To me scabs somehow seem less of an issue than some of the others, though personally I leave my own (mostly tiny ones evidencing where my cat has 'playfully' batted with a little too much gusto) to disappear to wherever it is they disappear to. I'd like to endorse booger eating but little causes me to recoil more, I feel like my throat closes up in defence at just the thought of it. I'm not sure what exactly this feeling is but it's probably proximate to disgust, which, as fgti's assessment implies, is often a much more encultured and a much more problematic feeling than it seems.

xp The whole process of picking your nose is like mainlining whatever bacteria is on your fingers straight into your system, so think that's probably the bigger issue here

xp earwax is pretty gross but I'll be damned if I don't have to give it a good smell before I flick it into the trash (after I've plucked it out w/ a fingertip.)

I clean my ears with my fingers at times, and speculate the wax with my fingernail. Saliva lubricates the procedure, and I naturally ingest some wax as a result.

I have on occasion felt an instinctive desire, when cleaning my ear with a swab, to ingest the dark dots of wax off the cotton nib, and I do not do that, but sometimes I desire to.

Rest assured to anybody who interacts with me in person that I am a fastidious hand-washer

Me *checking my guitar nails for cleanliness, and they’re spotless* [Glinda voice]: oh hello. Wowwwwww

I grew up with Garrison Keillor in the car, getting the adoration of my parents, and in Minnesota it was kind of the pre-Fargo mirror to the more rural parts of the culture around me. I foist him upon no one (though the Altman movie works well) and defend him to no one and yet take his brief little audio Substack essays on early-morning walks and enjoy them despite it not being socially acceptable.

Prairie Home Companion at its best was good radio. Keillor really loves the medium, you can tell. And he had talented people on, both his guests and his crew. It was a good shtick for a while and then like a lot of successful shticks it went on much too long and became embarrassingly emblematic of NPR tote bag liberals. And the way he ended his run felt extremely predictable.

they tried to keep the program going after his departure but it really lost that midwest folksy charm

rip live from here

yeah, that was the title... the mandolin playing host was fine but the entire timbre had changed

Sun Kil Moon 2003-2013

^^^ I direct you to my post above:

I perversely kind of want to go see Mark Kozelek when he plays in town in a few months.

Porn

I watched several Cosby Show episodes Sunday night.

I own all 19 Bill Cosby albums and will probably listen to them again someday.

Yeah, I have unbreakable childhood attachments to all the records from Very Funny Fellow to 200 M.P.H.

I regularly eat packs of Taco Bell hot sauces by themselves.

I also eat Ketchup packets.

at the AMC near me, for a long time, they had cups of jalapenos that were free that they left in the popcorn stations and I would brag them and eat pickled jalapenos by themselves in the theater until my friend begged me to stop because she could smell them so heavily.

they pulled them and made them 25 cents a cup and made you get them from the concessions and I'm 99% sure it was because of me.

*brag = grab

goddammit wrong thread

You can put things you like to eat in the things you like that are not socially acceptable to like thread and things you hate to eat in the things you hate to eat in the things you hate that are not socially acceptable to hate thread there’s already plenty of precedent

Just maybe don’t talk about your cat that you hate in the things you eat that are not socially acceptable to eat thread

Alf has never been socially acceptable.

Yeah dude has no filter

Boxing, job interviews, Earth Song

Boxing

Anybody else in this thread ever been to a bullfight?

Xpost:

Porn is def one of the main things that comes to mind. I can’t think of anything more widely enjoyed on a global scale that is also generally looked down upon, at least in public.

Ishtar

I feel like Ishtar's rep has mostly been turned around (I've still never seen).

Ishtar doesn't work but it's not some world-historic embarrassment.

I think it was just the floppiness of it:

Against a $51 million production budget and up to another $20 million spent on prints and marketing costs, the film is estimated to have lost $40 million. Ishtar has become synonymous with the phrase "box office flop", and in 2014, the Los Angeles Times listed the film as one of the most expensive box-office flops of all time.

I had no idea that Coca-Cola was involved in the financing

ahh, they had money stuck in North Africa so they shot it there instead of the SW USA:

However, Columbia's parent company at the time, Coca-Cola, had money in Morocco it could not repatriate, so the studio relented and allowed production to take place in the Sahara Desert. It was expected that shooting in Morocco would take ten weeks, after which the New York scenes would be shot.

The reappraisal of Elaine May's career has helped.

I saw Ishtar on the morning of Jan 1st 2000 so I knew the Y2K thing was a joke, we've got Ishtar on TV

It was the budget and the delays and the build-up to it, and the fact that neither Warren Beatty nor Dustin Hoffman had made a film for five years, so there were undue expectations.

I think Heaven's Gate has been re-evaluated as well, though I've never seen it.

I think it's been edited, which helps

The What Went Wrong podcast about Ishtar and Elaine is pretty good. Made me want to watch it but I haven't found the time...

This is an obvious one that I've posted about a lot, but my favorite author is Rudyard Kipling and my favorite book is Kim, and as an English teacher I get asked about my favorite book quite a lot and it's always a bit stressful trying to split-second decide whether to answer honestly, answer honestly with tedious explanations, or lie.

Oh yeah, authors.
I'm a big Knut Hamsun fan, I have like ten of his books on the shelf, and he was, uh, a little friendly with Hitler and was put under house arrest for being a quisling after the war ended. But that doesn't change how I feel about his early books

I'd say he was acceptable among people who actually know who he is. Celine seems much more problematic. I like 'em both.