TCM is celebrating her this month, there was a new bio out this year that looks intriguing and I just watched her in a melodramatic mood in The Dark Angel, her only Academy Award nomination, and really enjoyed it. Looking forward to peeking into that bio and watching some more things in TCM. Particularly intrigued to see how she fares opposite ILX favorite George Brent.
― Nicholas Raybeat (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 17 December 2025 15:49 (four months ago)
was interested to learn about her family background a few years ago when michelle yeoh won an oscar and publications had to issue corrections clarifying that yeoh was the first "openly asian" best actress winner.
― jaymc, Wednesday, 17 December 2025 16:02 (four months ago)
I've seen her in non-descript roles and most famously in Wuthering Heights where she's inscrutably miscast (so is Olivier, but he does he can).
― The Luda of Suburbia (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 17 December 2025 16:04 (four months ago)
*what he can
― The Luda of Suburbia (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 17 December 2025 16:05 (four months ago)
I watched These Three the other night, the first filming of The Children’s Hour, and thought she was really lovely. Other than that and Wuthering Heights I don’t think I’ve seen her in anything else?
― cinematic hobo hip-hop rock ‘n’ roll blues-jazz soul-review (Dan Peterson), Wednesday, 17 December 2025 16:20 (four months ago)
Still haven't seen it, but I recorded it from TCM last week.
― The Luda of Suburbia (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 17 December 2025 16:22 (four months ago)
I'm inclined to group her with Linda Darnell in that, while limited, she's a better actress than usually given credit for. Both of them probably quite a bit better than, say, Hedy Lamarr.
― Nicholas Raybeat (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 17 December 2025 16:27 (four months ago)
Although Experiment Perilous is better than Berlin Express, which you should still watch when it comes up later in the month, I think.
― Nicholas Raybeat (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 17 December 2025 16:32 (four months ago)
Morbius weighs in on That Uncertain Feeling: "i have a confession to make to you, baron: you are a CROOK!": the ERNST LUBITSCH poll
― Nicholas Raybeat (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 17 December 2025 16:37 (four months ago)
Laura is her best, though she's wonderfully creepy in Leave Her to Heaven
― Brad C., Wednesday, 17 December 2025 16:37 (four months ago)
duh, why am I confused Merle Oberon with Gene Tierney? nm
― Brad C., Wednesday, 17 December 2025 16:38 (four months ago)
(xp) For zing users, the post is on June 13, 2017
― Nicholas Raybeat (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 17 December 2025 16:39 (four months ago)
She made another movie with Olivier right before Wuthering Heights called The Divorce of Lady X that they often run on TCM which I've never properly watched.
― Nicholas Raybeat (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 17 December 2025 16:41 (four months ago)
Scarlet Pimpernel is the way, her and Leslie Howard.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 17 December 2025 16:43 (four months ago)
I remember finding out MO was south asian and once i heard it i couldnt unhear it. That Uncertain Feeling is a weird lubitsch but she’s a great straight guy in it
― Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Wednesday, 17 December 2025 18:30 (four months ago)
― jaymc, Wednesday, December 17, 2025 10:02 AM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
correction: oberon was the first asian best actress *nominee* (yeoh was the second).
― jaymc, Wednesday, 17 December 2025 18:35 (four months ago)
Also the "openly" part
― Nicholas Raybeat (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 17 December 2025 20:42 (four months ago)
i mean, that's what people wrote
― jaymc, Wednesday, 17 December 2025 20:49 (four months ago)
Second person with Asian ancestry of either gender to be nominated was apparently Ben Kingsley:https://www.tcm.com/articles/now-playing-newsletter/59799/star-of-the-month-merle-oberon
― Nicholas Raybeat (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 17 December 2025 20:52 (four months ago)
i mean, that's🕸 what🕸 people🕸 wrote🕸
― Nicholas Raybeat (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 17 December 2025 20:54 (four months ago)
Can't remember if people even knew about his ethnic background until that movie.
― Nicholas Raybeat (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 17 December 2025 21:03 (four months ago)
https://www.thelist.com/810522/the-real-reason-ben-kingsley-changed-his-name/
― Nicholas Raybeat (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 17 December 2025 21:15 (four months ago)
Dev Patel and Riz Ahmed got nominations and maybe that's it.
― Nicholas Raybeat (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 17 December 2025 21:42 (four months ago)
Steven Yeun, off the top of my head
― jaymc, Wednesday, 17 December 2025 21:46 (four months ago)
Miyoshi Umeki won Best Supporting Actress for Sayonara.
― Lithium Just Madison (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 17 December 2025 21:57 (four months ago)
― Nicholas Raybeat (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 17 December 2025 22:53 (four months ago)
Somehow they both managed to steer clear of Gene Markey.
― Nicholas Raybeat (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 17 December 2025 22:54 (four months ago)
Eddie Muller intro to Berlin Express talks about how instead of the expected RKO goto guy Nick Musuraca they used her then-husband Lucien Ballard as the DP. Ballard had a special (hand-held?) he called The Obi (after her) to hide the scars on her face. I had always thought these scars were from the car crash during the troubled production of I, Claudius but apparently it was from some drug injection for a virus, which medicine caused pustules to break out and then scar her face.
― Nicholas Raybeat (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 17 December 2025 23:14 (four months ago)
I wish they were showing the documentary about I, Claudius called The Epic That Never Was, that thing is amazing.
― Nicholas Raybeat (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 17 December 2025 23:15 (four months ago)
The light is spelled The Obie, I guess.
― Nicholas Raybeat (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 17 December 2025 23:16 (four months ago)
That TCM link has a lot of this info.
The Epic That Never Was is on YouTube in a few places.
― Nicholas Raybeat (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 18 December 2025 00:10 (four months ago)
Apparently her paramour David Niven was just like his character in Bonjour Tristesse.
― Nicholas Raybeat (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 18 December 2025 01:42 (four months ago)
I, Claudius car crash did not damage her face but did result in a nasty concussion and near death experience.
― Nicholas Raybeat (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 18 December 2025 01:47 (four months ago)
Sabu finally shows up in the bio as a comparison point.
― Nicholas Raybeat (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 18 December 2025 02:23 (four months ago)
Here's a tl:dr article that also seems to have an interview: https://www.sensesofcinema.com/2009/feature-articles/merle-oberon-she-walked-in-beauty/
― Nicholas Raybeat (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 18 December 2025 02:24 (four months ago)
This is a pretty good overview: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-61079732
― Nicholas Raybeat (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 18 December 2025 14:49 (four months ago)
Links to this https://www.mic.com/articles/168949/the-surprising-story-of-merle-oberon-the-only-indian-actress-to-be-nominated-for-an-oscar, which seems to have the proper count for Asian and Indian award winners
― Nicholas Raybeat (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 18 December 2025 14:50 (four months ago)
And this, a review of the Australian documentary about her, which contains a lot of detail about the length Tasmanians went to claim her as their own: https://variety.com/2002/film/reviews/the-trouble-with-merle-1200547709/
― Nicholas Raybeat (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 18 December 2025 14:51 (four months ago)
I remember finding out MO was south asian and once i heard it i couldnt unhear it.― Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Wednesday, December 17, 2025 1:30 PM (two days ago)
― Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Wednesday, December 17, 2025 1:30 PM (two days ago)
Does this mean you hear a South Asian accent in her speaking voice?
― Josefa, Friday, 19 December 2025 14:19 (four months ago)
Something I read said that when she was tired or overstressed such an accent could emerge and somebody like Charles Laughton would make fun of her, but there's maybe just a hint of it on film, hard to know if it's really there or imagined.
― Nicholas Raybeat (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 19 December 2025 14:23 (four months ago)
Yeah, I've been trying to listen to her closely and I think I hear an Indian accent but my ears aren't as attuned to this a Brit's would be.
― Josefa, Friday, 19 December 2025 14:26 (four months ago)
Wonder if anyone has seen or read Queenie. I myself have kept my distance and in any case neither the book not the miniseries is readily available.
― Nicholas Raybeat (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 19 December 2025 15:21 (four months ago)
not=nor
From this year's bio:
After embracing Merle Oberon’s majesty early in my cinephilia during the late aughts, I was dismayed to learn that mine was a minority opinion. The narrator of the great James Baldwin’s If Beale Street Could Talk (1974) discounted her as “a nothing actress” with a “disquieting resemblance to an egg,” reflecting a general consensus. David Thomson, a writer whose work fomented my ambition to enter the profession of film criticism, lamented that “she was often a dull actress” in The New Biographical Dictionary of Film (originally A Biographical Dictionary of Cinema), which I considered a holy book. Some were even more savage. An academic who ran a blog dedicated to the Academy Awards—back when there was a cottage industry of what I and many others called “Oscar bloggers”—dismissed her: “What use was Merle Oberon, really? Her face has a hard, flat quality onscreen that seems to repel the audience’s identification, and she seems insufficiently open to the actors around her.” It stung to see her entire existence as an actor written off so snidely by people I considered tastemakers.
― Nicholas Raybeat (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 19 December 2025 15:30 (four months ago)
― Josefa, Friday, December 19, 2025 9:19 AM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink
yes.
― Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Friday, 19 December 2025 15:41 (four months ago)
Having seen just a few of her films I would concede that she projects a bit of a solipsistic vibe. The Hedy Lamarr comparison is interesting because it would be hard to make a case that Lamarr is the better actress, but maybe her presence is more sympathetic somehow. We could throw Joan Bennett in here who seemingly occupied a similar niche in the Hollywood hierarchy but was arguably the best actress of the three.
― Josefa, Friday, 19 December 2025 15:51 (four months ago)
https://halfcastewoman.substack.com/p/love-queenie
― Nicholas Raybeat (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 19 December 2025 16:05 (four months ago)
Of those three, Joan Bennett is clearly the one who has been taken most seriously over the years.
If only for the Fritz Lang films
― Nicholas Raybeat (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 19 December 2025 16:21 (four months ago)
Maybe it's all BS though
― Eric Blore Is President (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 21 December 2025 05:57 (four months ago)
Good thing I didn't pay for that book
This guy was the author: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Munn
― Eric Blore Is President (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 21 December 2025 05:59 (four months ago)
Was wondering how he got such great dish
― Eric Blore Is President (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 21 December 2025 06:00 (four months ago)
Maybe the book by Robert Morley's son is more reliable.
― Eric Blore Is President (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 21 December 2025 06:05 (four months ago)
Oberon had first met David in London in the early thirties when she was a hostess at the Cafe de Paris, living with Hutch, the great cabaret pianist, and David was on his nightclub rounds. A couple of years later, Laurence Olivier (who was, of course, to join them in Wuthering Heights) recalled a meeting at Korda’s Denham Studios where Merle was then filming: ‘She had this young man with her, who kept putting on silly voices and seemed terribly ill at ease with people who were already making their names as actors, but she was very sweet with him and then by the time we all got to Hollywood she was the love of his life. I don’t think he was ever the most faithful of lovers, even to her, but she was very good with him and I do think she helped him a lot, both socially and professionally. He was never going to be a dedicated actor–he couldn’t have done a stage classic to save his life–but he had a lot of charm and was very good at sport, and Merley loved all that about him.’
― Eric Blore Is President (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 21 December 2025 06:13 (four months ago)
^From The Other Side of the Moon: The Life of David Niven, by Sheridan Morley.
― Eric Blore Is President (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 21 December 2025 06:26 (four months ago)
About the other author: https://www.theguardian.com/books/2010/jul/25/michael-munn-biographer-interview-tim-adams
― Eric Blore Is President (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 21 December 2025 06:32 (four months ago)
Also looked in Niv: The Authorised Biography of David Niven, by Graham Lord. The nature of their relationship was still correctly described in the first book, even if the fabulist liked to make up interviews that never happened.
― Eric Blore Is President (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 21 December 2025 07:03 (four months ago)
I do hope this is a bit clearer now
― Eric Blore Is President (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 21 December 2025 13:24 (four months ago)
Yes, thank you. I read the first of David Niven's series of memoirs, The Moon's a Balloon, but can't remember what he said about Merle Oberon. I think it's generally believed that Niven tells a lot of tall tales in those books.
― Josefa, Sunday, 21 December 2025 17:08 (four months ago)
He didn't name her in that book. Instead he referred to her as a "Great Big Star."
― Eric Blore Is President (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 21 December 2025 17:19 (four months ago)
And yes, he was known for telling stories, of varying degrees of truthfulness.
― Eric Blore Is President (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 21 December 2025 17:20 (four months ago)
So Lydia is pretty wild at the start, where it has a distinct Citizen Kane-ish feel to it. But it gets sappier as it goes along, Merle always ping-ponging between ecstatic joy and despair.
― Josefa, Sunday, 21 December 2025 17:26 (four months ago)
Still have to watch that one. It was made the same year as Citizen Kane, 1941, as David Bordwell points out.
― Eric Blore Is President (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 28 December 2025 07:04 (four months ago)
A little surprised to see Walter Brennan in These Three.
Managed to watch Affectionately Yours before it went away. Far from a masterpiece but still worth watching for a few reasons.
― Eric Blore Is President (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 1 January 2026 22:53 (four months ago)
It's basically a budget remake of His Girl Friday.
― Eric Blore Is President (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 1 January 2026 23:08 (four months ago)
With Roz Russell split in two in a transporter beam accident, with the reporter part– and her hat– becoming Rita Hayworth, and the ex-wife part becoming Merle Oberon.
― Eric Blore Is President (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 1 January 2026 23:13 (four months ago)
Ralph Bellamy in the Ralph Bellamy role!
― Eric Blore Is President (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 1 January 2026 23:14 (four months ago)
And...Dennis Morgan in the Cary Grant role.
Not only is he no Cary Grant, he's not even George Brent.#onethread
― Eric Blore Is President (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 1 January 2026 23:17 (four months ago)
Hattie McDaniel and Butterfly McQueen from WentGone With the Wind, along with a character actor whose name I forget playing some kind of bizarre Turkish character, provide some problematic comic relief.
― Eric Blore Is President (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 1 January 2026 23:24 (four months ago)
Dennis Morgan's performance is like if they plucked Russell Wade directly from his Val Lewton films (#onethread) and when he showed up for day one of shooting they finally informed him it was going to be a comedy so just ham it up.
― Eric Blore Is President (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 1 January 2026 23:37 (four months ago)
The Private Life of Don Juan is leaving TCM, although it remains on Criterion. Maybe I will at least have a peek at what Alicia Malone has to say.
― Eric Blore Is President (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 2 January 2026 02:00 (four months ago)
Some interesting stuff about how Korda discovered Miklós Rózsa in the Ben Mankiewicz intro to Lydia.
― Eric Blore Is President (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 2 January 2026 02:16 (four months ago)
Watching one of Merle Oberon's RKO pictures, one that has a terrible reputation, and it's turning out better than expected. Noticed Cat People screenwriter DeWitt Bodeen in the credits and tempted to think that it's him working his magic.#onethread
― Eric Blore Is President (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 8 January 2026 03:34 (four months ago)
She sings for a few seconds! Probably short enough that it's not a ghost singer.
― Eric Blore Is President (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 8 January 2026 03:48 (four months ago)
As a teenager, Queenie sang and danced in the Calcutta Amateur Theatrical Society.
― Eric Blore Is President (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 8 January 2026 03:57 (four months ago)
Dan Andrews basically says the famous first line of a Dylan song.
― Eric Blore Is President (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 8 January 2026 04:10 (four months ago)
Arrgh, Dana Andrews
― Eric Blore Is President (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 8 January 2026 04:27 (four months ago)
I understand prunes gave him the runes.
― Eric Blore Is President (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 8 January 2026 04:29 (four months ago)
That was Night Song, which is somewhat similar to Magnificent Obsession.
― Eric Blore Is President (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 8 January 2026 12:31 (four months ago)
Most of it is a four-hander performed by the two leads along with Hoagy Carmichael and Ethel Barrymore, both of whose shtick is enjoyable, until the big concert sequence at the end, which is also good.
― Eric Blore Is President (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 8 January 2026 12:36 (four months ago)
So I can safely recommend giving that a chance, unlike the one I am trying to finish now, Stanley Donen's bloated MGM Sid Romberg biopic Deep in My Heart.
― Eric Blore Is President (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 8 January 2026 12:38 (four months ago)
This thing is really only worth turning on for some of the myriad one-off MGM musical guest performances, such as the one by Ann Miller who just showed up and delivered the goods, dancing up a storm in a bright red flapper's dress.
― Eric Blore Is President (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 8 January 2026 12:51 (four months ago)
For Merle-watching purposes she is barely even in it. Although right now she's flirting with with a young gentleman from North Carolina by putting on a Southern accent that is even worse than her French accent in Berlin Express, if that's possible.
― Eric Blore Is President (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 8 January 2026 12:54 (four months ago)
José Ferrer is annoying in the lead, frantically mugging to fill up the space.
― Eric Blore Is President (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 8 January 2026 12:58 (four months ago)
And most of the tunes are lackluster as well, apart from "Softly, as in a Morning Sunrise."
― Eric Blore Is President (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 8 January 2026 13:01 (four months ago)
Just hanging on now waiting for the arrival of Cyd Charisse, dubbed by Carol Richards, of course. #onethread
― Eric Blore Is President (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 8 January 2026 13:02 (four months ago)
Seems like neither Stanley Donen nor Roger Edens cared that much about this project except as a money spinner MGM musical biopic, the last of four, and as Edens first film as lead producer, I think.
― Eric Blore Is President (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 8 January 2026 13:06 (four months ago)
Cyd/Carol! Nice to see again after recently sitting through that other bloatfest Silk Stockings.
― Eric Blore Is President (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 8 January 2026 13:09 (four months ago)
And Howard Keel wakes things up again with "My Maryland."
― Eric Blore Is President (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 8 January 2026 13:19 (four months ago)
Do you have a blog or Substack? I'd love to read these bullet points cohered into an Oberon essay.
― The Luda of Suburbia (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 8 January 2026 13:20 (four months ago)
Ah, now Merle is doing the dying and crying routine she did so well in 'Til We Meet Again, only in color and without that understated George Brent magic to bounce off of.
― Eric Blore Is President (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 8 January 2026 13:25 (four months ago)
― Eric Blore Is President (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 8 January 2026 13:27 (four months ago)
Well, that last one was grueling. Will have to rest up before I attempt something like Hotel.
― Eric Blore Is President (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 8 January 2026 13:49 (four months ago)
Still wondering if I should watch that, which I believe was her last film role, where her credit (which of course comes last) is this: ANDMERLE OBERONAS "THE DUCHESS"
― Eric Blore Is President (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 28 January 2026 01:42 (three months ago)
Also wanna say that while the biography is good on her life, the author seems to fall into a common challopsy approach to her career, making grandiose statements that she is as good as Stanwyck, but then on the other hand being super-dismissive of many of her actual performances, saying she was phoning it in even when she was actually doing a reasonable job.
― Eric Blore Is President (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 28 January 2026 01:48 (three months ago)
Just was reminded that I still need to watch Wuthering Heights among others.
― Eric Blore Is President (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 13 February 2026 22:05 (two months ago)