― dwh (dwh), Thursday, 28 November 2002 22:29 (twenty-three years ago)
― Ronan (Ronan), Thursday, 28 November 2002 22:32 (twenty-three years ago)
― RJG (RJG), Thursday, 28 November 2002 22:34 (twenty-three years ago)
― dwh (dwh), Thursday, 28 November 2002 22:53 (twenty-three years ago)
― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Thursday, 28 November 2002 22:57 (twenty-three years ago)
― mark s (mark s), Thursday, 28 November 2002 23:03 (twenty-three years ago)
― dwh (dwh), Friday, 29 November 2002 10:46 (twenty-three years ago)
― Archel (Archel), Friday, 29 November 2002 10:55 (twenty-three years ago)
― Liz :x (Liz :x), Friday, 29 November 2002 10:59 (twenty-three years ago)
(haha i had a dream in which i very angrily announced to the entire world that i was FED UP of explaining my writing to ppl!! as if i EVAH....??!!??)
― mark s (mark s), Friday, 29 November 2002 10:59 (twenty-three years ago)
(I was hoping he'd said it on I Love Conkers)
― Graham (graham), Friday, 29 November 2002 11:05 (twenty-three years ago)
Alternatively, Tom E could do his thing and try and back you up.
(Liz - I'm a 'regular' under a new name, don't worry, although I'm quite miffed that I haven't got on ANY of the USERS pages. God.)
― dwh (dwh), Friday, 29 November 2002 11:24 (twenty-three years ago)
― dwh (dwh), Friday, 29 November 2002 11:26 (twenty-three years ago)
― dwh (dwh), Friday, 29 November 2002 11:27 (twenty-three years ago)
― Sarah (starry), Friday, 29 November 2002 11:31 (twenty-three years ago)
Sarah he's a regular who has big real-name issues - he writes Shazam! and did the lift to experience piece on FT.
― Tom (Groke), Friday, 29 November 2002 11:37 (twenty-three years ago)
― mark s (mark s), Friday, 29 November 2002 11:38 (twenty-three years ago)
I have to say I'm not entirely convinced by mark's argument, if only because I know we both think 'postmodernism' is a non-starter as a basis for any kind of interesting analysis => therefore most anyone's work on a booklist of 'postmodernism' is likely to be a pile of arse.
He is right that the discussion on the boards does get (eventually, and it has to happen over and over again, on each thread individually -- but that may be a condition of this kind of progress, not a failing) beyond a lot of the dim-witted recycling of old motifs that come up in the work of chancers like Debord and Baudrillard. But that's because we think Adorno kicks non-Hegelian Marxist arse.
― alext (alext), Friday, 29 November 2002 11:39 (twenty-three years ago)
― alext (alext), Friday, 29 November 2002 11:40 (twenty-three years ago)
― alext (alext), Friday, 29 November 2002 11:44 (twenty-three years ago)
― 96 Theses, Friday, 29 November 2002 11:47 (twenty-three years ago)
We can expect this as a headline in The D**ly R**ord tomorrow
― Snowy Mann (rdmanston), Friday, 29 November 2002 11:48 (twenty-three years ago)
heh: dwh, i wz mainly stomping on NS for being prick-like in that thread => i like ilxor's not-quite-schoolroom-not-quite-hallway status, and i think there is a potential uberforest of hydra's teeth ideas waiting to be sown hereabouts
but as to the actual sowing....
― mark s (mark s), Friday, 29 November 2002 11:53 (twenty-three years ago)
I agree, but the style-lab concept (I didn't read that thread) implies to me that ILX is somehow ahead of or unlike the rest of the world, rather than being like the world, but just a bit MORE like the world: a point of intensity, not an avant-garde.
― alext (alext), Friday, 29 November 2002 12:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― mark s (mark s), Friday, 29 November 2002 12:03 (twenty-three years ago)
"ILX: LIKE THE WORLD, BUT MORE SO"
― Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Friday, 29 November 2002 12:04 (twenty-three years ago)
yeh, i am he. Sarah: how bored? Ever heard of a guy called Habermas?
― dwh (dwh), Friday, 29 November 2002 12:05 (twenty-three years ago)
― dwh (dwh), Friday, 29 November 2002 12:07 (twenty-three years ago)
― dwh (dwh), Friday, 29 November 2002 12:08 (twenty-three years ago)
I still do not think that I understand post-modernism, although I still giggle at the dream where Tom was telling me that I would get lot more out of life if I properly critically engaged with the concept. This was on top of the number 35 bus going to Camberwell. But still he did not tell me WHAT IT IS. Is it Adorno? Is he the bloke who put maths to music and made a RIGHT BLOODY RACKET?
Eheu!
― Sarah (starry), Friday, 29 November 2002 12:12 (twenty-three years ago)
I used to hate Habermas, but it largely stems from the apparent ubiquity of his work on the radical democratic left, which is wrong, but not terribly so...
― alext (alext), Friday, 29 November 2002 12:14 (twenty-three years ago)
This is SinkAH shorely?
I used to hate Habermas
Ha Ha future googlers I mean his work of course. I have never met him and presume he is thoroughly decent chap. Obv. As someone who queued up to shake hands with Jackie D and get my copy of _Politiques de L'Amitie_ signed, I can no longer laugh at the story my mate tells of watching people queue up to have their photo taken with Jurgen H.
― alext (alext), Friday, 29 November 2002 12:17 (twenty-three years ago)
Of course this is all just sinkah-by-numbers.
― dwh (dwh), Friday, 29 November 2002 12:34 (twenty-three years ago)
― dwh (dwh), Friday, 29 November 2002 12:35 (twenty-three years ago)
― dwh (dwh), Friday, 29 November 2002 12:42 (twenty-three years ago)
― jel -- (jel), Friday, 29 November 2002 18:22 (twenty-three years ago)
― boxcubed (boxcubed), Saturday, 30 November 2002 09:50 (twenty-three years ago)