The King Of Comedy: c/d

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Ironically, I wasn't expecting so much "comedy" from it. (heh heh heh heh heh heh heh heh heh heh heh heh heh heh heh heh heh heh heh heh heh)

― naked as sin (naked as sin), Sunday, 1 December 2002 02:53 (twenty-three years ago)

REM/scorsese?

― RJG (RJG), Sunday, 1 December 2002 02:56 (twenty-three years ago)

Scorcese

― naked as sin (naked as sin), Sunday, 1 December 2002 03:01 (twenty-three years ago)

bernie mac is my favorite

― s trife (simon_tr), Sunday, 1 December 2002 03:03 (twenty-three years ago)

haha, mine too.

― RJG (RJG), Sunday, 1 December 2002 03:03 (twenty-three years ago)

I was watching a bit of it again just now. I guess it's my favourite Scorcese film. It gets to the heart of things that are important to me. Especially good is the way the story plays out (Pupkin's routine being neither triumph nor disaster).

― N. (nickdastoor), Sunday, 1 December 2002 03:18 (twenty-three years ago)

public service announcement: scorsese not scorcese

oops, wrong thread.

― RJG (RJG), Sunday, 1 December 2002 03:22 (twenty-three years ago)

Good point, well made. It's 3.26AM and I'm having an existential crisis. Forgive me.

― N. (nickdastoor), Sunday, 1 December 2002 03:26 (twenty-three years ago)

Wooo . . . . pigeon coo . . . coo-coo . . . . ooo mother earth

― Lynskey (Lynskey), Sunday, 1 December 2002 03:33 (twenty-three years ago)

: D

just being as uncontributive as ever.

yes, I like tKoC v. much. much 'better' than his other eightieses save RB and tLToC. not that he made many others then, really, but the ones he did were not UP TO SCRATCH.

it is obvious but: it has a lot in common with TD. okay. with taxi driver.

― RJG (RJG), Sunday, 1 December 2002 03:34 (twenty-three years ago)

I haven't seen tLToC and I never liked RB much. TD I like for similar reasons but maybe I just don't *get* TB as much as LP.

― N. (nickdastoor), Sunday, 1 December 2002 03:40 (twenty-three years ago)

have you confused me? lupert pupkin?

want a loan of tLToC? want to reassess RB RIGHT NOW, HEY?

― RJG (RJG), Sunday, 1 December 2002 03:54 (twenty-three years ago)

I have only seen a dubbed Chinese version.

― N. (nickdastoor), Sunday, 1 December 2002 03:56 (twenty-three years ago)

that jelly rewis clacks me up.

I'm so racist : (((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((

― RJG (RJG), Sunday, 1 December 2002 03:58 (twenty-three years ago)

I think we should go to bed now.

― N. (nickdastoor), Sunday, 1 December 2002 04:06 (twenty-three years ago)

okay.

― RJG (RJG), Sunday, 1 December 2002 04:08 (twenty-three years ago)

I mean: okay, see you later on.

― RJG (RJG), Sunday, 1 December 2002 04:08 (twenty-three years ago)

classic, yeah. isn't Jerry Lewis just playing himself in this movie?

― Justyn Dillingham (Justyn Dillingham), Sunday, 1 December 2002 05:33 (twenty-three years ago)

there's a difference in surname. don't know enough about him to know how similiar he is in the film.

― naked as sin (naked as sin), Sunday, 1 December 2002 22:36 (twenty-three years ago)

He is certainly supposed to representing "showbiz greatness" but I think its a bit of a push to say he is playing himself when you consider what the majority of JL's schtick is (he is playing a much more Carson-esque figure). Its not as if Lewis is that well respected in the US.

KoC (not to be mistaken with now defunct pub KoC) is Office-like in its squirming unbearableness sometimes. But as a film about celebrity stalking and about the appeal and difficulty of comedy (note Scorcese has never really made a comedy) its both spot on and ahead of its time.

― Pete (Pete), Monday, 2 December 2002 10:34 (twenty-three years ago)

well, I dunno if I'd say it's ahead of its time, exactly. in some ways you can read it as a response to the John Hinckley/Jodie Foster thing.

God, I just realized: Taxi Driver contains more moments of relaxed non-sick humor (via Albert Brooks) than King of Comedy.

― Justyn Dillingham (Justyn Dillingham), Monday, 2 December 2002 11:03 (twenty-three years ago)

Ahead of its time as a media pre-occupation, the idea of celebrity fixations has always been around after all (and this is also post Lennon shooting too). Its just these days where the idea of of fame as goal is spoon-fed to us by magazines which then also villify the sicko's who are obsessive stalkers.

― Pete (Pete), Monday, 2 December 2002 11:42 (twenty-three years ago)

AH is definitely scorsese trying to be funny first and foremost.

― RJG (RJG), Monday, 2 December 2002 13:18 (twenty-three years ago)

how did jerry lewis get so fat, anyway?

― Tad (llamasfur), Monday, 2 December 2002 13:24 (twenty-three years ago)

time and food.

― RJG (RJG), Monday, 2 December 2002 13:27 (twenty-three years ago)

I'd give it **h out of ****. The direction is way too overdone and, like in just about everything after Taxi Driver (their last great collaboration in my opinion - GoodFellas DeNiro was more of a supporting role + I think DeNiro is even worse in Raging Bull), Scorcese refuses to let DeNiro be anything more than the surface of a character (Lewis works better, gives his character a little more shading). If the movie was played more for jokes (DeNiro seems up for it, even if ironically Bernhard isn't) it might have been better, but I find the film joyless, filled with cliche and unenlightenedly cynical. The one scene I truly enjoy is when Pupkin is recording his material with a fake laugh track. It plays like a classic SNL skit where the rest of the movie gets unnecessarily dark. Also, the ironic twist is a botch. If Scorsese hated the world so much he shouldn't have done the movie, and I wasn't surprised to find out that he didn't want to.

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 3 December 2002 00:05 (twenty-three years ago)

"Maaaaa, please!"

"I can't believe I'm going to kiss you now."

― Sean (Sean), Tuesday, 3 December 2002 00:19 (twenty-three years ago)

TIME AND FOOD.

― RJG (RJG), Tuesday, 3 December 2002 00:20 (twenty-three years ago)

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