I'm a put a knife in someone's back in a minute.

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I'm v.v.stressed right now:
1) My university transfer application is a nightmare. The person here who should be able to help is the most incommunicative horrible chain smoking old woman who barks and shouts at you if you ask questions. My tutor is being cooperative in a completely not helpful way, I can't find out who can answer questions about my application at Brookes, no one in the world seems to know anything at all about how transfers work, the whole thing is looking increasingly unlikely while the course here is gettting worse and worse (ie here they're happy if we know what JPEG stands for. At Brookes they want you to know how they work).
(While I was typing that paragraph, someone's phone went off and they didn't answer it for ages and I want to throw it out of the window. I still might)
2) I'm not allowed to talk to various people I want to for fear of creeping them out.
3) I opened a horrible can of worms about loud music and stealing milk and stuff, and I know it's going to go horrible tonight.
4) My counselling sessions ended last week (cz of high demand), having achieved precisely nothing at all.
5) That girl that might fancy me isn't in today.
6) I still have no friends.

I can't cope. Will someone hold my hand and help me, please?

Graham (graham), Monday, 2 December 2002 16:03 (twenty-two years ago)

5b) So what if she was?
7) Rebecca Luckraf+ won't answer my fricking email, and probably hates me.
8) I haven't even got a quote through for my computer to be repaired yet.

Graham (graham), Monday, 2 December 2002 16:06 (twenty-two years ago)

fractals, innit?

aw, graham.

RJG (RJG), Monday, 2 December 2002 16:07 (twenty-two years ago)

Awww poor graham! Do something to VENT – eg go for a run, pummel something *offers graham her BOSS to pummel, hehe*, write it all down as I have heard this does help! All I can really say is hang in there, it’ll be worth it in the end!

Oh and *i* don’t know what jpeg stands for! I thought it meant “silly picture of lardy kitten” or summat…

katie (katie), Monday, 2 December 2002 16:08 (twenty-two years ago)

Thankyou Katie and RJG.

9) I had the worst night out ever on Friday
10) The greatest thing ever could happened to me on Saturday, but it was all a windup.

Graham (graham), Monday, 2 December 2002 16:10 (twenty-two years ago)

11) No one has answered my thread.
12) I've just spoken to Brookes and had a few questions answered, but a lot of my chances of getting in and doing the modules I actually want to go there for seem to be dependent on me having done earlier modules in that kind of stuff here, which I haven't, which is why I want to leave in the first place. Can someone hit me over the head repeatedly with a rubber mallet? Or a desk? Thank you.

Help me address each of these problems one at a time.

Graham (graham), Monday, 2 December 2002 16:40 (twenty-two years ago)

(This is going to end in me suing the university for 2 years of my life, isn't it?)

Graham (graham), Monday, 2 December 2002 16:41 (twenty-two years ago)

It gets harder and harder to transfer the further you get into a course. However an easy solution is to Transfer doing the modules that'll let you in, once you're in switch to the modules you really want to do. Once you get past the admissions staff to the academic staff you'll find a lot more sympathy. If you're still under 16 months into you're course you can always start over, but you probably don't want to do that, my experience is that university is just another place I can't wait to leave behind (and still I want to do PG).

Ed (dali), Monday, 2 December 2002 16:47 (twenty-two years ago)

Is it 16 months????? Pwease pwease pwease. I've read you have until Spetember the 1st.

The person I spoke to was in charge of the course, nbot admissions I don't think.

Graham (graham), Monday, 2 December 2002 16:48 (twenty-two years ago)

jpegs are very neat indeed.

Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Monday, 2 December 2002 16:49 (twenty-two years ago)

Speak to admissions you fule!! The actual teachers will tend to know bugger all!

Sarah (starry), Monday, 2 December 2002 16:51 (twenty-two years ago)

16 months, you may still make it. Talk to someone at your LEA or in your union they have no financial incentive to keep you up north. If you leave you're uni will be down some money it thought it was guaranteed. when I considered my options at about the same time as you I was told the cut off point for getting your do over funded by the LEA is 16 months, i.e january. It may have changed but call your LEA now.

Ed (dali), Monday, 2 December 2002 16:53 (twenty-two years ago)

Answer to question 11 - I don't tend to look at threads that look like they were started by psycho madmen until they're top of New Messages :)

Chin up, Graham. It all works out for the best in the end, honest (admittedly it may be some time down the line that you realise this).

Madchen (Madchen), Monday, 2 December 2002 16:53 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh yeah, concentrate on getting where you want to go then work on getting the modules, once you're there you should be able to find an ally somewhere in the staff there.

Ed (dali), Monday, 2 December 2002 16:54 (twenty-two years ago)

She appears to be School Administrator. DFES says one academic year Ed.

What about the other problems?

Graham (graham), Monday, 2 December 2002 16:58 (twenty-two years ago)

1) Do you have a student union officer who deals with academic affairs? If you aren't getting answers from the relevant person, at least an SU person may offer a sympathetic ear and perhaps give you information as well.

2) Just try not to dwell on this one, probably.

3) Household rows happen all the time and people survive. Also, until you get home you don't know what's going to happen, so don't think about it until then.

4) Every counseller is different and not all of them will be able to help you. Some might.

5) Maybe she'll be in tomorrow. Something to look forward to...

6) See all other threads on the subject, I guess.

7) Can't really answer that.

8) Try to see this as a minor problem and not part of general malaise.

9) At least it's over.

10) Again, it's over and shouldn't blight your week.

11) Hello!

12) There are ways and means of wangling a place, I'm sure. But I have never been in this situation so advice is limited I'm afraid! I see that while I was typing others have been more helpful. But I would say: persevere. You know what you want which is something.

Archel (Archel), Monday, 2 December 2002 17:05 (twenty-two years ago)

this must have changed in the last two years, that sucks, and would have clobbered any number of my friends in the same position as you. As far as the transfer goes your strategy should be to get in by hook or by crook get in then worry about modules/courses. Use any lever you can. Say that you need to be closer to home for a personal reason, say you've been dissatisfied with the course in Manchester, use any crafty method you can think of.

If uni counseling has failed you try and get referred by a GP to an NHS counsellor or therapist, it will be hard but hopefully you'll get one and they'll not be able to drop you in the same way.

As far as the other stuff goes:

Try and do some research before picking a place to live when you move, consider living off campus if you can afford it, and get there early so you can spend some time looking for places to live and more importantly people to live with. Its such a fucking lottery with uni accommodation and seeing as universities are just holding pens to keep people out of the unemployment stats they tend to be full of arseholes, who haven't learn't how to interact with people outside of the family situation, or whatever bus shelter they used to drink cider in.

I can't really help you with the friends thing but I used to be very shy around strangers as well. Traveling helped, having to interact with strangers on a daily basis but when i got to university I had to bully myself into walking up to interesting people and saying hello. You just have to seize the moment the first time you see people. Then you can avoid the whole stalking issue. Just say, 'Hi', and take it from there.

It may seam a crazy suggestion but maybe you should take leave of absence from uni for a bit and do something different, somewhere other than manchester or home.

Ed (dali), Monday, 2 December 2002 17:15 (twenty-two years ago)

Thank you Ed and Archel.

1) Student Union officer = horrible shouty woman
3) I've thrown away any moral high ground I might have had. They are all bigger than me. etc etc etc
5) Refer to (5b)
9) No it's not. I only went there in the hope of bumping into someone. She wasn't there this week so I've got to go a-fucking-gain. Aaargh.

13) I have Feeder stuck in my head. And am enjoying it.

Graham (graham), Monday, 2 December 2002 17:18 (twenty-two years ago)

13 - THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT!!

*sings* polytheeeeeeeeeeene! polytheeeene GURL! wrap me up in her cellophane WURLD!

*gets teary*

Feeder man. Top jums.

the reclaim feeder foundation (starry), Monday, 2 December 2002 17:20 (twenty-two years ago)

Sorry TRFF, it's "American English" which it turns out is by Idlewild.

the reclaim idlewild/dis feeder foundation (graham), Monday, 2 December 2002 17:22 (twenty-two years ago)

Hmph. I diskard you utterly.

the reclaim feeder foundation (starry), Monday, 2 December 2002 17:35 (twenty-two years ago)

I can't offer any help to speak of, but I'd hold your hand

luna (luna.c), Monday, 2 December 2002 17:40 (twenty-two years ago)

re: 7) NB I still wuv Ms DeWinter, I'd just wuv her more than peanut butter if she replied to email.

Graham (graham), Monday, 2 December 2002 17:47 (twenty-two years ago)

i guess or i'm guess or i'd think that you'd probably NOT want me? to hold you hand. so i'd pat your back instead

just hang in there, i'm sure at least it feels 1% better to have posted all this at least. break a pencil you don't need, or take a piece of paper into the bathroom, rip it into shreds, and flush each shred with vehemence down the toilet. i know exactly what u are going through in some respects since i am also under a lot of stress right now (major assignment due today, have to see landlord, have to mail off laptop that i havent yet, quiz tommorrow morning, 15 min oral presentation due tommorrow on a dvd i havent seen and I DONT HAVE A DVD P LAYER, 10-12 page paper that i havent started due wed morning and 10 minoral final exam in french wed evening that i know nothing on) aah just typing that made me want too go to sleep, all that is the only reason im glued to my computer. but realize:

it WILL be over sometime, "this too shall pass,"

so..close your eyes and remember how you've gotten through MUCH worse things in the past (u have), and then picture the funniest graphic doom e has posted on here or the stupidest joke u heard all week, and smile : )

V or maybe Vee, Monday, 2 December 2002 17:59 (twenty-two years ago)

i will lick your toe jam - it's soothing

Queen G (Queeng), Monday, 2 December 2002 18:18 (twenty-two years ago)

I have nothing useful to add to the sensible comments here, but you have my sympathy.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Monday, 2 December 2002 20:29 (twenty-two years ago)

Hmmm...not much in the way of constructive advice Graham, since as you know I've been having a pretty horrible time of things too. Kick something, mindless agression is fun and stress relieving.

Nicole (Nicole), Monday, 2 December 2002 22:47 (twenty-two years ago)

Rebecca?

Graham (graham), Tuesday, 3 December 2002 12:57 (twenty-two years ago)

Graham, not really much good with uni stuff but I'm sending you psychic hugs. Hope it all works out.

smee (smee), Tuesday, 3 December 2002 13:04 (twenty-two years ago)

As far as friends etc, to be honest I think you just have to hope you find someone accidentally. I'm very interested in (10. What happened on Saturday night? Was it awful?

Andrew Thames (Andrew Thames), Tuesday, 3 December 2002 13:10 (twenty-two years ago)

Graham - did anything happen with the HMV job application?

My advice, tho it's easy to give and difficult to follow I know, is :

a) You're letting lots of unrelated problems multiply into one huge downer - most of the above are either over and done with OR would be sorted if you could transfer course. Put your energies into finding the right person in admissions to help you get the transfer done - be polite, reasonable, but determined and persistent.

b) Recognize that your time at Manchester has been a bit of a f*ck up, but that it's not YOUR fault. Just chance - wrong course, wrong people, wrong time. Loads of people I know have been in that situation. You'll definitely make friends elsewhere.

See you at the FAP - prepare to drink to a better 2003!

Dr. C (Dr. C), Tuesday, 3 December 2002 13:29 (twenty-two years ago)

No, when I went back (9 days later) the signs were all gone from the window, so I didn't bother taking it in.

a) I can't do anything right though.
b) Yes it has. But I don't believe you.

Graham (graham), Tuesday, 3 December 2002 13:31 (twenty-two years ago)

Form a plan based on the things you can control: uni, work, living arrangements. The rest should just fall into place.

Ed (dali), Tuesday, 3 December 2002 13:37 (twenty-two years ago)

No advice to add, everyone else has said it all. Sorry about all this shit, Graham, and good luck with your course change.

weasel diesel (K1l14n), Tuesday, 3 December 2002 13:42 (twenty-two years ago)

Try and hit the ground running if you do change course, read the advice on the old threads again. It has to be way easier if everyone else is new too.

Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 3 December 2002 15:26 (twenty-two years ago)

So why are my relationships with people so fragile? The most popular people I know just seem to run around saying the first thing that comes into their head and no one blinks, but every time I open my mouth I mnanage to say the wrong thing in situations were people didn't even know their was a wrong thing before. Why am so clumsy?

Graham (graham), Friday, 6 December 2002 10:03 (twenty-two years ago)

(I've had five, count 'em, five, doors figuratively slammed in my face this week, and that's only counting weekdays)

Graham (graham), Friday, 6 December 2002 10:06 (twenty-two years ago)

i think its because other people are possibly being flippant or ironic or non-serious, whereas you dont come across this way, ie. look at how these people say these thing, not what they're saying. they may say things similar to you, but do they say them the same way. how do they speak?

gareth (gareth), Friday, 6 December 2002 10:25 (twenty-two years ago)

Also make sure you leave before they slam the door. If slamming the door feels like to them the only way of ending the converstaion/getting rid of you then that's what they will do. Be light, flippant and don't care so much. Maybe they slammed the door, or maybe it was the wind...

Pete (Pete), Friday, 6 December 2002 11:56 (twenty-two years ago)

1) I sent my application off on Friday, but no word yet.
2) I've made contact with both of them, though no real change.
3) They're totally terrified of me cz I don't care they don't like me and that's the only weopon they've got.
4) Oh, who cares?
5) ???
5b) ???
6) ???
7) We'll sort things out
8) Still no word and I keep forgetting to phone. How rubbiosh am I?
9) This week was barely any better
10) I'm exacting my revenge
11) They did eventually
12) Oh God.
13) Yay Idlewild.

Graham (graham), Tuesday, 10 December 2002 16:42 (twenty-two years ago)


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