Vote Of No Confidenc: Have you ever seen someone lose their job by democracy

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I don't mean parlimentarians, though even at the micro level that must be bizarre. But last night I was witness to a person defending how they did their own job to a baying crowd and then watch as people looked him in the eye and voted him unemployed.

It was an oddly queasy situation I have to say.

― Pete (Pete), Wednesday, 4 December 2002 12:43 (twenty-two years ago)

Yes, I've seen it and I was similarly uneasy. Mostly it seemed like people were voting No Confidence for the excitement of chucking someone out, rather than for any more sensible / thought out reasons. (I've seen No Confidence motions defeated in baying meetings too, which is a small glimmer of hope).

Student politics: gotta love it.

― Tim (Tim), Wednesday, 4 December 2002 13:03 (twenty-two years ago)

(Also the person I saw ousted threatened the Uni - who was strictly speaking the employer - with an unfair dismissal action, with the result that she continued to be paid uintil the end of her term anyway, on a gardening leave basis.)

― Tim (Tim), Wednesday, 4 December 2002 13:07 (twenty-two years ago)

I agreed the fella was pretty incompetant but the very nature of the situation was that to get a 2/3rds majority and quoracy the proposers were dragging in punters from the bar and beyond the opening statements from both sides there was no actual discussion. I possibly would have voted if I had been allowed to ask my question, but in the end abstained out of principle.

― Pete (Pete), Wednesday, 4 December 2002 13:11 (twenty-two years ago)

i also saw this happen last night... on star wars the phantom menace.

i can't BELIEVE they showed this on ITV on a tuesday night. it really is the worst film ever made...

― kate, Wednesday, 4 December 2002 13:24 (twenty-two years ago)

kate, surely HYPERBOLE. worst would of course be "eyes wide shut", "xXx" or.... a list of other atrocious movies

― nathalie (nathalie), Wednesday, 4 December 2002 13:44 (twenty-two years ago)

b...b...b...but all of those are G*R*A*T*E films!

― DV (dirtyvicar), Wednesday, 4 December 2002 14:33 (twenty-two years ago)

Uh-oh - democracy struggles again.

What The Phandumb Menace does show is there is nothing like a bit of overly rigid democracy to allow evil to cradle. And that ET's can vote too.

― Pete (Pete), Wednesday, 4 December 2002 14:39 (twenty-two years ago)

i forgot to tape tPM: I have still not seen it in its entirety :(

― mark s (mark s), Wednesday, 4 December 2002 15:13 (twenty-two years ago)

There is no surprise that the annoying kid grows up to be an annoying adult.

― Pete (Pete), Wednesday, 4 December 2002 15:31 (twenty-two years ago)

Worst movie EVAH is Lethal Ninja! or Pirahana 2: The Spawning.

― Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Wednesday, 4 December 2002 16:41 (twenty-two years ago)

b...b...b...but all of those are G*R*A*T*E films!

I thought that GRATE was for things you love with a childlike simplicity? I've heard you defend The Phantom Menace many times, but I put it to you, Mr DV, that you don't love it with a childlike simplicity.

Fact: DV and I are two of about five people I know of who realise that the AotC is a worse movie. Though perhaps we approach it from different directions.

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Wednesday, 4 December 2002 18:53 (twenty-two years ago)

ANYWAY, first you people have humped up ideas of worst film ever or grate films for that matter, we have neither listed in this thread! I mean no one has mentioned Riding With Death.

Secondly I really wish I could institute this method of dismissal at my workplace because the person causing the misery would be gone in about two seconds. And probably stoned to death if we are lucky.

― Ally (mlescaut), Thursday, 5 December 2002 03:06 (twenty-two years ago)

I was party to a situation where everybody wanted to vote a person unemployed, had the power to do so, and would have been justified in doing so, but we were all too scared of being nasty (albeit to one of the most compulsively manipulative, incompetent and corrupt persons evah). So we wheedled and pleaded with her until she agreed to resign - with extensive extra pay. The whole experience sorely tested my instinctive unionism.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Thursday, 5 December 2002 12:59 (twenty-two years ago)

yeah we just all cheered in our office earlier this week when a fellow worker was finally persuaded by management to resign (i mean, he wasn't there as we were cheering, he'd already left the building). i am definitely torn in my attitude: on one hand, he was a total unending super-creepy dick who picked fights, especially with women bcz he feared and hated them, including threatening actual violence to them — and he never did ANY work and sicked all his workload onto his juniors who he bullied if they didn't stand up for themselves; on the other, he wz clearly tremendously lonely, but whenever he did try and reach out a bit to someone, he got rebuffed (initially probably bcz he had been stupidly rude like two hours before to that person's best friend, but after a while it all became self-fulfilling)

he once told my boss that i was the only person he liked in the org!! this made me feel triply awful, bcz i had really made zero effort to make his life better (OK a bit of effort perhaps, not to just join in totally excommunicating him)

― mark s (mark s), Thursday, 5 December 2002 13:17 (twenty-two years ago)

this was not loss of job by democracy, i guess, but it definitely matched the popular will: the guy who does office repairs was his junior and they had been friends before they worked here, it's why he got the job — but he got so bullied and put upon and dropped in the shit by his ex-friend that the friendship had long ago withered into truculent hatred

anyway he's been going round this week like the party will never stop

― mark s (mark s), Thursday, 5 December 2002 13:21 (twenty-two years ago)

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