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Do gay guys ever get sexual thoughts about other men who they know are straight? I need to know this before I decide if I'm going to hang out with gay people - thanks!

― Arnold Adenoid, Thursday, 5 December 2002 10:43 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm not prejudiced or anything. It's just that my butt is an 'exit-only' zone, nothing personal

― Arnold Adenoid, Thursday, 5 December 2002 10:44 (twenty-two years ago)

Arnold, do men ever have sexual thoughts about women who have no sexual interest in them whatsoever? I need to know this before I decide if I'm going to hang out with straight men - thanks!

― Amarga (Amarga), Thursday, 5 December 2002 10:53 (twenty-two years ago)

hilarious question!

http://www.acc.umu.se/images/archive/19981107-ACCFest/26-hamlet.t.jpg

― dakatin, Thursday, 5 December 2002 11:18 (twenty-two years ago)

yes we all fancy you all the time and cannot keep our hands off you

― mark s (mark s), Thursday, 5 December 2002 11:24 (twenty-two years ago)

I also hear that the Irish may become violent after a few drinks. Should I avoid these cheeky types? Christ on a bike.

― Liz :x (Liz :x), Thursday, 5 December 2002 11:29 (twenty-two years ago)

Dude, unless you like hanging out with PSYCHOTIC CRIMINALS -- or you're a guy whose putative straightness melts away with drink -- your ass has nothing to worry about.

It is possible that you *may* be flirted with. If such a contingency does occur, a brief yet polite refusal along the lines of "I'm not interested" will usually stop it.

Believe it or not, some gay men also see their butt as an "exit-only" zone, too.

― Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Thursday, 5 December 2002 12:29 (twenty-two years ago)

i fall in love with straight boys all the time, but have enough respect to avoid telling them-unless of course im drunk.

― anthony easton (anthony), Thursday, 5 December 2002 20:40 (twenty-two years ago)

ANTHONY WILL DESTROY YOUR ASS, ARNOLD. THERE IS NO TURNING BACK.

― donut bitch (donut), Thursday, 5 December 2002 20:47 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh, yeah, and Arnold.. fuck off.

― donut bitch (donut), Thursday, 5 December 2002 20:47 (twenty-two years ago)

ANTHONY WILL DESTROY YOUR ASS, ARNOLD. THERE IS NO TURNING BACK.

sounds like a Whitehouse lyric

― electric sound of jim (electricsound), Friday, 6 December 2002 00:11 (twenty-two years ago)

watch out for those male homos with pet gerbils too, arnold!

― Tad (llamasfur), Friday, 6 December 2002 00:14 (twenty-two years ago)

i have dibs on his mucous

― Queen G (Queeng), Friday, 6 December 2002 06:29 (twenty-two years ago)

is it true that people called Arnold are all repressed homosexuals?

― DV (dirtyvicar), Friday, 6 December 2002 11:39 (twenty-two years ago)

watch out for those male homos with pet gerbils too

http://www.lemson.com/lemson/pictures/nov95/fatguys.jpg

― erik, Friday, 6 December 2002 12:44 (twenty-two years ago)

"I need to know this before I decide if I'm going to hang out with gay people - thanks!"

I'm sure your gay acquaintances will be waiting with bated breath for your decision!

Why am I responding? This is obviously a troll. Possibly one of the regulars taking the piss.

― weasel diesel (K1l14n), Friday, 6 December 2002 12:50 (twenty-two years ago)

You know what's really annoying? When a friend of yours comes out of the closet, and you're like "So, I assume you were attracted to me then?" and he's all "No, you're physically repulsive, I'd rather fuck a woman".

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Friday, 6 December 2002 13:04 (twenty-two years ago)

This morning I misread a bumper sticker on the car in front of me to say:
"HAPPINESS is: Being inside a bum!"

(Really said: Happiness is: Being inside a barn!")

But anyway, for a second I thought it was a gay pride sticker... ha ha

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Friday, 6 December 2002 14:07 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.grimmy.com/images/Gay/MP042700.gif

― erik, Friday, 6 December 2002 14:19 (twenty-two years ago)

ha!!!

― ron (ron), Friday, 6 December 2002 15:18 (twenty-two years ago)

happiness is being inside a barn???

― DV (dirtyvicar), Friday, 6 December 2002 17:03 (twenty-two years ago)

happiness is a loaded bum

― Queen G (Queeng), Friday, 6 December 2002 18:45 (twenty-two years ago)

acutally, all joking aside - do you get gay men who have a thing for straight men, the same way you get straight men who have a thing for lesbians? At least I have heard such men exist.

― DV (dirtyvicar), Friday, 6 December 2002 20:10 (twenty-two years ago)

I don't think the comparison is a very exact one, DV!

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Friday, 6 December 2002 20:41 (twenty-two years ago)

wellll, no I'm sure it isn't. but there is a certain similarity, the idea of wanting to "turn" someone.

I'm not really thinking of the use of lesbianism in porn aimed at men.

― DV (dirtyvicar), Saturday, 7 December 2002 00:50 (twenty-two years ago)

I have never been attracted to a straight lesbian

― Queen G (Queeng), Saturday, 7 December 2002 08:12 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh I have been...

― B, Saturday, 7 December 2002 08:18 (twenty-two years ago)

the use of lesbianism in porn aimed at men

what's the case with david hamilton? are his soft images of lesbian girls just some vision of the beauty of non-sexual love or are they softporn for straight men?

― erik, Saturday, 7 December 2002 08:55 (twenty-two years ago)

I think lesbians are so prominent in porn because guys like to see sex, but don't like to see dick...am I wrong?

― B, Saturday, 7 December 2002 09:05 (twenty-two years ago)

Dicks in straight porn always look like alien spacecraft descending from the skies toward the hangar-like open mouths of women - even if I found women sexually attractive I think that stuff would repulse me.

"acutally, all joking aside - do you get gay men who have a thing for straight men, the same way you get straight men who have a thing for lesbians?"

It's really quite common among newly out gay guys actually, where it doesn't seem to be about "turning" straight guys (though that happens too) so much as the mythologising of the straight male ideal (ruggedly handsome 'mates') and perhaps a lingering distaste for overtly 'gay' social behaviour - thus straight-acting gay guys can usually easily substitute for the real thing. I'm generalising awfully here, obviously.

Fetishising heterosexuals and/or 'straight-acting' has never struck me as a particularly constructive tendency, and on the whole I'm fucking relieved that I tend to be attracted to gay guys a bit more than straight guys.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Saturday, 7 December 2002 13:05 (twenty-two years ago)

nd/or 'straight-acting' has never struck me as a particularly constructive tendency, and on the whole I'm fucking relieved

I'm still waiting for this relief. *cries*

― Sean (Sean), Saturday, 7 December 2002 20:14 (twenty-two years ago)

Face it, Arnold. This isn't about the gay-straight sex. It's about the tears and recriminations afterwards. And the long drive home. By the second or third time you begin to realize this is not the life you want.

― Aimless, Saturday, 7 December 2002 20:27 (twenty-two years ago)

alien spacecraft descending from the skies toward the hangar-like open mouths of women

If Skykicking ever goes porno, it'll be the most literate erotic criticism ever.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 8 December 2002 03:22 (twenty-two years ago)

"If Skykicking ever goes porno, it'll be the most literate erotic criticism ever."

Ha ha Ned I was thinking about writing a long post about Queer As Folk the other night but thought it might alienate all the post-2000 readers.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Sunday, 8 December 2002 12:28 (twenty-two years ago)

I missed Queer As Folk last week, what happened with that cute young guy? Is he still alive?

― toraneko (toraneko), Sunday, 8 December 2002 13:41 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeah he's alive and back at home, but he's lost the proper use of his drawing hand. It was a good episode - lots of urgent and key character development for Brian - although typically overstuffed with details and plot-lines and extra doses of melodrama (it wouldn't hurt for them to slow down a bit).

Best! Line Ever! (paraphrasing):

Brian: (to Michael) blah blah go back to Michigan (?) with David blah blah.
Michael: Oregon. Portland's in Oregon.
Brian: (supremely unconcerned) Whatever the fuck.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Sunday, 8 December 2002 14:15 (twenty-two years ago)

Tales from the City was on Arena tonight. It's like a cross between Queer As Folk and Sex in the City (I'm guessing about the second bit as I've only seen about 3 minutes of that show).

― toraneko (toraneko), Sunday, 8 December 2002 14:34 (twenty-two years ago)

Surely Queer As Folk is like a cross between Tales of the City and Sex & The City?

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Sunday, 8 December 2002 14:50 (twenty-two years ago)

mmm, justin's ass

― Queen G (Queeng), Monday, 9 December 2002 17:50 (twenty-two years ago)

ha ha don't get me started!

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Monday, 9 December 2002 23:10 (twenty-two years ago)

This is USA QAF isn't it? How is it different?

I'm generally curious about how UK shows translate to the US market ever since the strange Sanford And Son oddity where the two protagonists didn't seem to despise each other and live in a world of hatred and broken, shattered dreams of depression and sorrow.

― Al_Ewing, Monday, 9 December 2002 23:57 (twenty-two years ago)

It's glossier with on-the-whole better looking actors and much more explicit sex and nudity. It's also a 'proper' series (ie. 20+ episodes per season and potentially many seasons), with more fleshed-out secondary characters. There's no sharp UK dialogue, but there's sharp US dialogue which can be just as good. It's less 'real' maybe, but gay culture isn't really real anyway so the artificiality works perfectly. A lot of stuff seems really dead on to me, perhaps more than with the UK version because Australian gay culture is more American than British.

The main difference is that the length has allowed for a huge amount of character development that makes it quite addictive, because it almost feels like you're watching the characters mutate before your eyes (this is also a not-always-great side-effect of the fact that they probably try to pack too much in).

The UK-to-US translation has been interesting - especially early on there were scenes that were almost word-for-word contrasting with totally new stuff. Now it's all new, and much better for it because there's no compulsion to compare the two.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 10 December 2002 08:26 (twenty-two years ago)

I just had a thought - if arnold's ass is only for exit, does that mean he'll gladly suck cock?

― Queen G (Queeng), Tuesday, 10 December 2002 08:58 (twenty-two years ago)

and where is he?

http://www.seeing-stars.com/Images/Slides/ChineseTheatreFootprints-Arnold.JPG

― erik, Tuesday, 10 December 2002 09:19 (twenty-two years ago)

I watched QAF UK and then the first few US episodes, and the sex was certainly NOT more explicit - less explicit, surely, but much glossier, more Playboy channel. And I'm not sure about the greater depth of character. That wasn't the impression I got from the early episodes - again, on the contrary, but I think around the time I stopped watching it was abandoning the idea of having a reasonably complete story in favour of turning into a soap format, for better or worse.

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Tuesday, 10 December 2002 14:04 (twenty-two years ago)

i am deeply in love with vince on qafuk. just so you know.

― anthony easton (anthony), Tuesday, 10 December 2002 15:11 (twenty-two years ago)

I was deeply in lurve with Stuart. Watching that show was the only time I wished my breasts away.....

― smee (smee), Tuesday, 10 December 2002 15:54 (twenty-two years ago)

"I watched QAF UK and then the first few US episodes, and the sex was certainly NOT more explicit - less explicit, surely, but much glossier, more Playboy channel."

They eased into it, methinks to avoid controversy spewing forth from all the people who watched the first few episodes just to criticise it. We're up to the beginning of season 2 in Australia and it is now *very* explicit. There was one scene a while back where they filmed one of the characters fucking another guy on a glass table, with the camera underneath the table looking up.

"And I'm not sure about the greater depth of character. That wasn't the impression I got from the early episodes - again, on the contrary, but I think around the time I stopped watching it was abandoning the idea of having a reasonably complete story in favour of turning into a soap format, for better or worse."

This is the interesting aspect of it - it *is* a soap format but the characters do evolve. Again it's been a very gradual thing.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Wednesday, 11 December 2002 02:39 (twenty-two years ago)

I've never seen it.

― Sean (Sean), Wednesday, 11 December 2002 06:32 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.galeon.com/qaf/Principal/JustinBrianSalon3.jpg

― erik, Wednesday, 11 December 2002 07:47 (twenty-two years ago)

QAFUS is like degrassi high, except there's more ass. I love it.

― Queen G (Queeng), Wednesday, 11 December 2002 10:43 (twenty-two years ago)

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