Scotch, Irish, Bourbon, Rye

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Which whisky shall I buy tomorrow? What shall I mix it with?

Ed (dali), Thursday, 5 December 2002 22:46 (twenty-two years ago)

Feeling flush? buy Talisker and mix it with ice.

webcrack (music=crack), Thursday, 5 December 2002 22:49 (twenty-two years ago)

I think I'm going to be in the £15 a bottle range, unfortunately. Also Talisker is not really a swigging whisky. I need a party whisky.

Ed (dali), Thursday, 5 December 2002 22:52 (twenty-two years ago)

Lagavulin...neat...

B, Thursday, 5 December 2002 22:52 (twenty-two years ago)

Jameson's is normally my choice in these situations but I fancy something different.

Ed (dali), Thursday, 5 December 2002 22:54 (twenty-two years ago)

You can sometimes pick up Strathisla for about 17 quid. Good glugging scotch with a bit of water and very nice neat.

RickyT (RickyT), Thursday, 5 December 2002 22:56 (twenty-two years ago)

make some NOG!! has anybody got a favorite NOG recipe?

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 5 December 2002 22:57 (twenty-two years ago)

Rum is the only spirit I won't touch, and isn't that an essential nog ingredient?

Ed (dali), Thursday, 5 December 2002 22:58 (twenty-two years ago)

If you're drinking to get loaded and have fun, you will buy rye (cheapo stuff like Canadian Club) and mix it with cola, preferably Coke. Can't go wrong. If you want to be J.R. Ewing, you will buy Bourbon and mix it with water, no ice. If you want to be moody/cool, you will buy Irish (NOT Bushmill's) and drink it straight. Right out of the bottle would be my preference. If you want to be a pretentious wanker/budding whiskophile (huh?), you'll buy a single malt Scotch, Talisker or something like it. In any event, have fun.

Bryan (Bryan), Thursday, 5 December 2002 23:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Is Canadian Club nasty or have I just never tried it by accident?

I've spotted Strathisla in Sainssbury's. I may well have to try that.

Ed (dali), Thursday, 5 December 2002 23:00 (twenty-two years ago)

you can put anything you want in NOG!! (to an extent)

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 5 December 2002 23:01 (twenty-two years ago)

I never mix with coke, bleaugh. My normal modes are, straight, out the bottle round the fire or mixed with vermouth (Manhattan). This is a straight out the bottle occasion unless I want to look like a ponce.

Ed (dali), Thursday, 5 December 2002 23:02 (twenty-two years ago)

(Crunch N Munch might not work out, for instance)

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 5 December 2002 23:03 (twenty-two years ago)

bah

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 5 December 2002 23:04 (twenty-two years ago)

how do you make this fabled nog then?

Ed (dali), Thursday, 5 December 2002 23:07 (twenty-two years ago)

oh nog thread

Ed (dali), Thursday, 5 December 2002 23:10 (twenty-two years ago)

moi aussi!

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 5 December 2002 23:23 (twenty-two years ago)

If you want to be moody/cool, you will buy Irish (NOT Bushmill's)

What's wrong with Bushmills? I used to drink Blackbush. That was nice.

David (David), Thursday, 5 December 2002 23:33 (twenty-two years ago)

Blackbush is great, also Jameson's has some kind of premium (1780, mebbe) that isn't too costly and excellent. Mixing brown liquor with sugary sweet soft drinks = dud.
As for Talisker, don't knock it if you haven't wanked it.

webcrack (music=crack), Friday, 6 December 2002 00:39 (twenty-two years ago)

But try not to be the one paying for it in any case.

webcrack (music=crack), Friday, 6 December 2002 00:40 (twenty-two years ago)

glenrothes and do not mix it with anything except yr intestinal juices

ron (ron), Friday, 6 December 2002 02:01 (twenty-two years ago)

I was pretending to be opinionated. It was fun for once. The only problem with Bushmills is that Ciggydoo Don believes Protestant Irish whisky is just plain wrong (go ahead and drink up as far as I'm concerned). Rye and Coke must be a Canadian thing, I guess. Classic. Anyone who says otherwise is fucked up. VERY easy way to simultaneously become an alcoholic and diabetic. CC isn't nasty, it's just modestly priced (here, anyway). Single malt Scotch is for wankers (it's fun to use words in print I'd almost never say) because it costs a lot and I don't have any. Anyway, I hope you got hammered, Ed.

Bryan (Bryan), Friday, 6 December 2002 06:32 (twenty-two years ago)

I sometimes finish the evening with a Grouse.

MarkH (MarkH), Friday, 6 December 2002 09:22 (twenty-two years ago)

No hammered is tonight. It'll come down to what's on special. Strange to see no one standing up for boubon. Not Jack daniels that mings. Maker's mark is good at about £17. It may be a wild turkey weekend.

Ed (dali), Friday, 6 December 2002 10:05 (twenty-two years ago)

You know you want Paddy.

Ronan (Ronan), Friday, 6 December 2002 10:19 (twenty-two years ago)

Mmm paddy, not as ubiquitous here, I'd have to track a bottle down.

Ed (dali), Friday, 6 December 2002 10:53 (twenty-two years ago)

I remember a great day when we were out in the now closed Kitchen nightclub over here and we sat down only to find a shoulder of Paddy under where our coats were.

Ronan (Ronan), Friday, 6 December 2002 11:01 (twenty-two years ago)

Eeh my mother likes bourbon when she can get nice stuff. I am a tweedy puff and go for a single malt every time, as long as someone else is buying. Pubs are for pints; the way to appreciate whisky is at home with fine company and good music.

Liz :x (Liz :x), Friday, 6 December 2002 11:07 (twenty-two years ago)

My friend Clare once foisted her fetish for Southern Comfort and lemonade on me. Not recommended.

Archel (Archel), Friday, 6 December 2002 11:11 (twenty-two years ago)

Southern Comfort tastes like cough mixture.

MarkH (MarkH), Friday, 6 December 2002 11:46 (twenty-two years ago)

And your point is...? Mmmmmmm...Nyquil.

Bryan (Bryan), Friday, 6 December 2002 14:17 (twenty-two years ago)

I started drinking Southern Comfort and lemonade around the time I stopped drinking rum and black. I was going to say Jameson's, bah.

Madchen (Madchen), Friday, 6 December 2002 15:02 (twenty-two years ago)

Knob Creek is phenomenal tasting bourbon and very strong. I've noticed they've started doing this snooty song-and-dance with bourbons like Booker's and Knob Creek similar to the "Classic Malts" thingie, where each bottle comes with cross-promotional propaganda booklet rubber-banded to its neck, droning on cozily about how "these bottles of booze have been selected as the very finest bottles of booze available for purchase at your local purveyor of booze bottles" - don't read this part and pour a glass quite full of what's inside

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Friday, 6 December 2002 15:07 (twenty-two years ago)

They've just started appearing here too, which is no bad thing because you were limited to four roses, jack and wild turkey before.

Ed (dali), Friday, 6 December 2002 15:35 (twenty-two years ago)

Hur hur (up) Knob Creek (w/out a paddle). I am as a small child.

Liz :x (Liz :x), Friday, 6 December 2002 15:38 (twenty-two years ago)

do not dilute whiskey. do not put ice in it. do not serve it with a mixer.

you may have a glass of whiskey or a pint of beer on the side.

DV (dirtyvicar), Friday, 6 December 2002 15:57 (twenty-two years ago)

DV is OTM, except for using cheap whisky to make manhattens and old fashioneds.

Ed (dali), Friday, 6 December 2002 16:09 (twenty-two years ago)

four years pass...
jameson w/ ginger ale is nice, purists be damned (and americans like ice cubes, got a problem with that?)

timmy tannin (pompous), Friday, 5 January 2007 06:46 (eighteen years ago)

All whisk[e]y tastes the same to me and it all brings me back to the 5 or so shots of Jim Beam that I chased with Red Dog beer at this party one time.

Yeah, that was a pretty bad idea.

less-than three's Christiane F. (drowned in milk), Friday, 5 January 2007 06:52 (eighteen years ago)

if you think all whisky tastes the same, i'm guessing you've only had the relatively cheap, mass-produced stuff.
my friend loves nothing more than scotch (yes, even the expensive ones) w/ginger ale. and ice. they do make a nice flavor marriage.
the purple label Edraudor is not just the best scotch i've ever had, but the best liquour, period.

Chesty Joe Morgan (Chesty Joe Morgan), Friday, 5 January 2007 06:55 (eighteen years ago)

(i mean really, whisky has the widest range of tastes out of any category of liquor i've had. even within scotch there's an abundance)

Chesty Joe Morgan (Chesty Joe Morgan), Friday, 5 January 2007 06:56 (eighteen years ago)

Bulleit Bourbon with just a splash of water. Divine.

Bill Magill (Bill Magill), Monday, 8 January 2007 21:05 (eighteen years ago)

I've always wanted to try making a highball with Vernor's ginger ale but when I lived in MI I couldn't drink, and now that I can drink, I can't get Vernor's. CURSES, FOILED AGAIN!

Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 8 January 2007 21:25 (eighteen years ago)

I want a bottle of Lagavulin but whenever I find it I am intimidated by the price tag. ($70)

do i have to draw you a diaphragm (Rock Hardy), Monday, 8 January 2007 21:29 (eighteen years ago)

EWWW VERNORS

s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 8 January 2007 21:35 (eighteen years ago)

HEY

Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 8 January 2007 21:36 (eighteen years ago)

Scotch on the rocks is my very favorite. I drank like two fifths of Glenlivet over break bcz they were on sale for $21 each. YUM!

Abbott (Abbott), Monday, 8 January 2007 21:50 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.spirituosenworld.de/produkte/bourbon/details/woodford_reserve_gr.jpg

Not bad at all.

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Monday, 8 January 2007 21:53 (eighteen years ago)

how the fuck was i not on this thread already?!?!?

hstencil (hstencil), Monday, 8 January 2007 21:57 (eighteen years ago)

I got yer back on the Vernors Laurel

(off topic Vernors drink mix: Vernors, vodka, lime, in -- most importantly -- a copper cup = Moscow Mule)

daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Monday, 8 January 2007 21:58 (eighteen years ago)

Ah Grouse, the old cooking whisky (as mum refers to it as).

Also - a LITRE of Talisker 18? Wow...

Which single malt should I go for next - having tried Balvenie, Tormore and Laphroaig, all of which I liked (though I had to have Laphroaig with just a few drops of water - I know, I know...)

AndyTheScot, Wednesday, 21 January 2009 12:19 (sixteen years ago)

a few drops of water is good i think! i usually find it adds more flavour

t_g, Wednesday, 21 January 2009 12:32 (sixteen years ago)

one ice cube opens the flavour of a single malt imo

caek, Wednesday, 21 January 2009 14:08 (sixteen years ago)

both those male models should be punched in the windpipe

caek, Wednesday, 21 January 2009 14:16 (sixteen years ago)

one year passes...

i have been thinking about manhattans lately. i haven't had one in a long time.

altered dominant (get bent), Monday, 26 April 2010 07:37 (fifteen years ago)

one month passes...

Is Chivas Regal 18 good scotch? I tried some at a wedding and I thought it was kind of nast. But to be honest I'm not sure I even like Scotch. Bourbon and blended for me.

hills like white people (Hurting 2), Thursday, 24 June 2010 00:05 (fifteen years ago)

Chivas is a blend iirc. I'm not a fan.

Humbert Humberto Suazo (jim in glasgow), Thursday, 24 June 2010 00:10 (fifteen years ago)

Oh, I guess it's blended scotch.

hills like white people (Hurting 2), Thursday, 24 June 2010 00:23 (fifteen years ago)

Yeah, Chivas Regal 18 is a blend. Not supposed to be particularly good.

krakow, Thursday, 24 June 2010 08:11 (fifteen years ago)

Though blended does not equal bad.

krakow, Thursday, 24 June 2010 08:12 (fifteen years ago)

to be slightly more useful to hurting re: whether or not he likes scotch: there are many different types of scotch to choose from, there are many scotches, and not a few of them well respected, that i find extremely unpalatable; there are few allegedly potable liquids that i enjoy less than Talisker or Lagavulin - this is due to my dislike of smokiness in a whisky. I find that as a rule i tend to go for whiskys that are not smoky and that have a richness of flavour imparted to them through the casks they have been aged in, e.g. the Macallan 18, Balvenie Double Wood. Obviously any individual will have their own preferences but the gamut is fairly wide, it might just be a case of trial and error.

Humbert Humberto Suazo (jim in glasgow), Thursday, 24 June 2010 12:46 (fifteen years ago)

If I'm in the world of blends, I'll happily drink Jonnie Walker but Chivas isn't great

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Thursday, 24 June 2010 12:59 (fifteen years ago)

to my shame i thought, until a year or two ago, that johnnie walker was an American whisky because the name sounded American to me and it's always in American films but i rarely see it irl (irl being Scotland for me).

Humbert Humberto Suazo (jim in glasgow), Thursday, 24 June 2010 13:02 (fifteen years ago)

tbf it is mainly an export brand, very big in the US and Asia, and probably a bit overpriced for what it is, but it is very drinkable.

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Thursday, 24 June 2010 13:07 (fifteen years ago)

I have to give Chivas credit for being just about the only major industry left in my hometown, long after everyone else had fucked off.

I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Thursday, 24 June 2010 13:12 (fifteen years ago)

four years pass...

http://www.businessinsider.com/bourbon-shortage-is-coming-2014-11

"Because of the recent spike in popularity of the brown spirit, distillers, who generally need to age even the cheapest stuff for 8-10 years, are warning that a major shortage is coming."

I'm driving up to Kentucky this weekend and stamping my name on a barrel Mila Kunis-style.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 11 November 2014 23:52 (ten years ago)

All I know is that three or four of my favorite whiskeys, or at least what used to be great bargains, bourbons I had no problem using to mix drinks as well as drink straight, have vanished from shelves and are practically as hard to get as Pappy. It's a small wonder that Elijah Craig 12 has stuck around.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 12 November 2014 01:55 (ten years ago)

I've made the switch to wine already

, Wednesday, 12 November 2014 02:06 (ten years ago)

I probably like wine better than bourbon, but I love the value of bourbons, bottles of brown that can just wait on your shelf to drink at your leisure.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 12 November 2014 02:09 (ten years ago)

four months pass...

I've been a big fan of Evan Williams black label for years as it is just good whiskey for the money, especially if you are going to just mix it. Evan Williams black label is a good step in for Jack D. if you like that whiskey. I got a bottle of the Evan Williams Bottled in Bond white label and this stuff is fantastic for a $12 fifth of bourbon. It's very good. Evan Williams and Benchmark (made by Buffalo Trace) are the good stuff for the lower price KY bourbons. Early Times No. 354 is also some amazing bourbon for the money. If you like Makers Mark, save five bucks and try it out.

This is one Kentucky resident reporters opinion, obviously the high end bourbon's rep. is well earned, but these are the ones I have found to be quite good for the price.

earlnash, Saturday, 11 April 2015 03:45 (ten years ago)

Would read an earlnash bourbon blog

DJP, Saturday, 11 April 2015 11:58 (ten years ago)

Owner of the Haymarket Whiskey Bar in Louisville that has like 250 different permutations of Ky. Bourbon got me and a couple pals turned onto Benchmark, he says it's the best inexpensive bourbon in the world. From what I understand, they make a year's batch and then taste it over the years as it ages and the top percentage stuff becomes Buffalo Trace and the stuff that doesn't quite get the tasters choice becomes Benchmark. I don't know if that is true, but that would be one hell of a job to have.

I don't know the top shelf that well as I am cheap, I'm sure that top level of KY bourbon is probably like sloppy kissing the Roman goddess Demeter with a good buzz, but I know that middle shelf quite well.

It doesn't taste bad, but I don't quite trust that Jim Beam Devils Cut stuff. It tastes like Seagrams VO to me, which is cool if you are mixing with 7Up. (The shit is mixing some Wild Turkey with 7Up which is the favorite drink of an old VP of IT turned me onto at a Christmas party a few years back.) My guess is that is it just brown vodka getting flavored by an already used charred barrel. I haven't been able to find any details on what the heck this Devil's Cut stuff actually is, but what the hey, it was a decent bottle of booze as a Christmas gift from a buddy.

I don't know scotch or Irish whiskey all that much at all, but I got to say my lady and I really liked making some of those ginger Jameson cocktails a couple weeks back. It wasn't some genius thing, just use some half decent booze (like Jameson) with some Canada Dry and some fresh lime. I don't know bupkus about Ginger beer, but I would like to try one of those with Jameson, which is another cocktail I read about.

earlnash, Wednesday, 15 April 2015 01:37 (ten years ago)

as i understand it devil's cut came about when the beam company figured out how to extract some of the bourbon that was absorbed by the barrel, then they blended that back in with their regular bourbon. i've read that there's an old bourbon region trick where kids would fill a spent barrel with some water and roll it down a hill or two--it's apparently possible to get a buzz from the results. beam basically found a scalable way to accomplish the same thing.

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 15 April 2015 01:41 (ten years ago)

i haven't had it in a few years but liked it when i did.

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 15 April 2015 01:41 (ten years ago)

Devil's Cut is not bad at all, but there is something about it that is way different than regular Beam, which has a spicy burn in it's taste. The Seven Year is the one I like from Jim Beam. Personally, I like slow drinking shots with a chaser.

If you want a good Indiana redneck evening, you get one of those big pitchers your mom might have made Kool Ade then put a package of Wylers lemonade, then fill it to the brim with ice and pour in a whole fifth of Beam. Then fill back in what melts with 7up or water and give it a good stir. I saw people get so drunk they would fight out through 2nd floor apartment windows with that stuff. It's some dangerous shit and the college ladies in cutoff jeans liked it quite well.

earlnash, Wednesday, 15 April 2015 01:54 (ten years ago)

I hardly ever drink whiskey straight, so I'm usually just looking for something solid for mixing purposes. Bulleit seems to fit the bill pretty well for both bourbon and rye, though what I've currently got in the house is Buffalo Trace bourbon and Rittenhouse rye. Wasn't intentional, but the fact that their profiles are so dissimilar (Buffalo Trace = smooth, sweet; RIttenhouse = high-proof, spicy) is useful. Sometimes you want one instead of the other.

Kind of curious about Irish whiskey, which I barely have an understanding of. I'm sure I had a shot of Jameson once upon a time, but I don't remember it. The one I'm most intrigued by is Redbreast, but it looks fairly pricey.

Before that, I'll probably pick up another scotch. A friend gave me a bottle of Glenmorangie single-malt, which is fine, but what I really want is an Islay scotch: Laphroaig, probably, since so many cocktails call for a Laphroaig rinse. (I'd like to drink it, too, though.)

jaymc, Wednesday, 15 April 2015 04:20 (ten years ago)

Just noticed this upthread, posted by Ed:

Whiskey sours, topped off with claret, fine drink, so call me a homo.

This is known as a New York Sour, and it's delicious.

jaymc, Wednesday, 15 April 2015 04:24 (ten years ago)

Oh haha, never mind, he said the same thing a few posts down.

jaymc, Wednesday, 15 April 2015 04:24 (ten years ago)

What's a good blended scotch? I've liked Monkey Shoulder in the past.

jaymc, Wednesday, 15 April 2015 04:26 (ten years ago)

going to islay during the whisky festival next month

conrad, Wednesday, 15 April 2015 11:32 (ten years ago)

"A friend gave me a bottle of Glenmorangie single-malt, which is fine, but what I really want is an Islay scotch: Laphroaig"

rong

post you had fecund thoughts about (darraghmac), Wednesday, 15 April 2015 14:43 (ten years ago)

xps Redbreast is delicious FYI

sleeve, Wednesday, 15 April 2015 15:31 (ten years ago)

oh yeah go for the redbreast, obvs

post you had fecund thoughts about (darraghmac), Wednesday, 15 April 2015 16:01 (ten years ago)

Ha, what part of that is wrong, that I want Laphroaig?

jaymc, Wednesday, 15 April 2015 23:04 (ten years ago)

as a preference, ya.its ok for you to want Laphroaig independently I guess.

if redbreast is too pricey to chance then price another good jameson/midleton, if you can get green spot any cheaper then go for that

post you had fecund thoughts about (darraghmac), Wednesday, 15 April 2015 23:08 (ten years ago)

eight months pass...

This Glenfiddich 19 might as well be labeled bourbon, so sweet and rich

calstars, Sunday, 27 December 2015 20:47 (nine years ago)

one year passes...

i'm a bourbon drinker. but i'm trying to understand.

treeship 2, Thursday, 16 November 2017 23:58 (seven years ago)

oh really, t2?

mh, Friday, 17 November 2017 00:12 (seven years ago)

you guys kind of are dicks. i don't know what kind of person would spend the entirety of his mid twenties posting to this messageboard.

treeship 2, Friday, 17 November 2017 00:21 (seven years ago)

just to take a random example.

treeship 2, Friday, 17 November 2017 00:22 (seven years ago)

just trying to correlate current d/n with previous

mh, Friday, 17 November 2017 00:37 (seven years ago)

unrelated. you've met people with your same first name before. same thing.

treeship 2, Friday, 17 November 2017 00:50 (seven years ago)

no, I mean your actual one, which I don’t think was Treeship! Unless I’ve misread

mh, Friday, 17 November 2017 00:52 (seven years ago)

you should be mh 2 and really besmirch me

mh, Friday, 17 November 2017 00:52 (seven years ago)

drinking some plain old dickel btw

mh, Friday, 17 November 2017 00:53 (seven years ago)

hello irishes,

while in ireland we had summa this shit and enjoyed it very much. you can get it in the usa in california at BevMo, at the very least. it's more scotch-y than irish-y but it's v tasty

http://www.kilbeggandistillingcompany.com/our-brands/connemara

YouTube_-_funy_cats.flv (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Friday, 17 November 2017 02:04 (seven years ago)

It's pretty peaty I'd definitely have said scotch in spirit for that reason alone.

Good distillery, kilbeggan, btw. Their pot still stuff are worth grabbing if seen cheap.

This year my house bottle has been a no-age generic called "the Irishman" and I ain't even sorry

fake pato is kind of racist, dude (darraghmac), Friday, 17 November 2017 07:21 (seven years ago)

two years pass...

Finally broke into the Christmas bottle of Town Branch I was given last year. I guess when you have an Irish immigrant genius onequine medicine mind start a brewery and whiskey business in the middle of bourbon country TM, you might get a different taste (RIP Dr. Lyons). It's pretty good, but it is also like every flavor of bourbon turned up to the power of 10. It's a bit much straight, but enough ice or a mixed drink, the stuff is killer. I'd bet it would be good bourbon for cooking as the flavor is so LOUD. Score one for the local team.

earlnash, Sunday, 4 October 2020 05:12 (five years ago)

nine months pass...

F'n A - drinkin' on a Thursday night when you are on PTO on Friday is the shit.

I'm so out of practice, it takes nothing. Just finished off tonight said bottle of Town Branch from above. I'd call myself a light weight, but that is a total misnomer.

earlnash, Friday, 16 July 2021 03:48 (four years ago)


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