Who In This Beeotch Likes Sidekicks?

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The natural progression from Ms. Ally's thread:

Robin. Watson. Little John. Pancho Villa. Andrew Ridgely. Bonzo. Dan Quayle. The American dork co-hosting _Junkyard Wars_ with Cathy "Make a NEW Marine Research album, damn it!" Rogers. Superfluous piffle, or necessary fashion accessory? Best & worst? And all the permutations therein, of course.

David Raposa, Wednesday, 20 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Right now I'm thinking about that little dog that would jump around the bigger dog in the old Warner bros. cartoons.

You also forgot Milhouse.

JM, Thursday, 21 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Villains don't have sidekicks. 'Nuff said.

Otis Wheeler, Thursday, 21 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Otis you are wrong!! Villains SOOOO have sidekicks! Because otherwise when they say "Fools! FOOLS! Do I have to do everything myself?" the answer would be like, uh, duh, pfff, hello, yeah?

Plus Peter Lorre would have had no work once he fled the Weimar Republic.

mark s, Thursday, 21 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Those are lackeys and peons, Mark. Henchmen. Villains don't have sidekicks - wot Otie said.

Josh, Thursday, 21 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Could the question be rephrased as "Do you like sidekicks more than their - what do you can the person a sidekick is a sidekick too?" In which case I don't think so - though I always though Doctor Watson was the real brains of that operation. Penfold was funnier than Danger Mouse, but DM was cooler - eyepatch and all.

I've always been more attached to the love interests really - who don't count as sidekicks. Maid Marian - until tony Robinson blew her out of the water - was a favourite of mine.

Pete, Thursday, 21 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

How, exactly, did Tony Robinson blow Maid Marrion out of the water?

Ed Lynch-Bell, Thursday, 21 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Villains SOOOO have sidekicks! Because otherwise when they say "Fools! FOOLS! Do I have to do everything myself?" the answer would be like, uh, duh, pfff, hello, yeah?

Erm... I think you'll find that those are not "sidekicks". I sidekick implies a certain amount of mutual respect, which villains are incapable of. Villains have MINIONS!!!

I've always wanted minions. Even though they screw everything up, leaving you vulnerable to all kinds of crap, it still looks cool to have them. Paul has minions. I'm jealous.

masonic boom, Thursday, 21 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Oh, BTW, classic minions of history... Renfield, the snivelling git to Dracula's menace. And whassisface, Dr. Frankenstein's assistant... Igor? The one who kept nattering on about brains. I want a mad minion assistant to get me fresh brains. Indeed!

masonic boom, Thursday, 21 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Pete is my minion, aren't you Pete?

I am planning my next act of villainy as I write......

Emma, Thursday, 21 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Sidekicks and mutual respect: HA!!!

Kemo Sabay = cherokee for "The white fool has a tiny penis and blows skunks, which is by the way what he smells of and why..."

mark s, Thursday, 21 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Minion my arse. Who needs me to accompany them to the FT re-launch party. Sidekicks / Minions are dependant on said hero/villain to act. And I let you live in my house in return for you drinking wine on the sofa.

Tony Robinson in his hey-day of not being an archaeologist/Labour Party flunkey used his own position as Blackadders sidekick to pen an irreverant (for which read irrelevant) kids prog called Maid Marian and her Merrie Men. Said show posited that infact Robin Hood was a dumb cove and the chick did all the hard work. An amusing idea spoiled heavily by some sub-Helen Lederer playing the Maid, and a rasta Merrie Man. Him being black of course meant that every week there was a kids TV style rap written by whiter than white Robinson - usually about the joys of manure. Horrific stuff.

Pete, Thursday, 21 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Let me live in your house! I will take this up with you later. However from a purely physical point of view you have to admit I am the villain and you are the sidekick (i.e I am taller and wear more black than you. And I frighten people. Well, one person. Once).

Emma, Thursday, 21 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

A henchman / lackey is no different than a sidekick - it's just a matter of spin-doctoring.

However, a villian needs a sidekick MUCH more than a "good guy" does. Where would Scott Farkus be without that little toadie cackling beside him? And Harley Quinn made the Joker a bit more enjoyable (though I am partial to the psycho-John-Waters panache that the solo Joker brought to the table).

David Raposa, Thursday, 21 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Mini-Me is NOT a lackey or a toady or a "peon" (pr. pee-on), but a SIDEKICK. And since no one is more evil than Dr Evil, this defn rools.

Anyway, I've never tangled with Otis. I want to see what happens.

mark s, Thursday, 21 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Distinction between sidekick and minion is surely FREE WILL. Sidekicks still have some but minions must always do their master's bidding. Hence mini-me is a sidekick not a minion.

Richard Tunnicliffe, Thursday, 21 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I'll tangle with you, Mark. You're a good guy, I hope? Cuz otherwise I can't brawl wit you. Look out though: a) I'm not a sidekick b) I have lackeys c) I have a partner in crime.

Otis Wheeler, Thursday, 21 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I like sideburns, especially those of elvis.

Geoff, Thursday, 21 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I know someone who doesn't like my name so he calls me Elvis, I guess because of my sideburns (?). One time he jumped on my back and bit my hair because I didn't have any enchiladas on me. I don't like that boy. I don't like sideburns, I should shave mine off.

Otis Wheeler, Thursday, 21 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

One time he jumped on my back and bit my hair because I didn't have any enchiladas on me.

I have nothing to add; I just think that sentence should be repeated ad infinitum.

Dan Perry, Thursday, 21 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Mini-Me is not a sidekick, a lackey, a minion, a peon, or a pissant; he's a pet! Villians don't have sidekicks; they have pets! Like Dick Dastardly had Mutley. Or Gargamel had Azrael. Or Jake "the Snake" Roberts had Damien.

Kris, Thursday, 21 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

The thing about sidekicks is that they are usually goofy and likeable, but always end up taking the bullet for the main guy or gal!...Anyway, my favourite sidekick is Sweep, as he totally upstages Sooty, and can talk!

james e l, Friday, 22 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

two weeks pass...
Best sidekicks are in Star Trek, of course. Spock, Bones, Will Riker. All classics.

Ally C, Monday, 9 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Wil Riker? Puh-leeze. Wil Riker couldn't hold Scotty's colostomy bag.

You are right on the old-school _Star Trek_ tip, though - even ciphers like Sulu and Uhura have their moments in the sun every so often. (It's what keeps them happy & docile.)

Saw an older episode of _Junkyard Wars_, co-hosted by Lloyd Llewellyn. He makes for a much better foil for Ms. Cathy "MARINE RESEARCH! WRITE SOME SONGS!" Rogers than that American twerp she's been galavanting around with in more recent skirmishes. I'm fond of the British art of understatement. Sad to see that Lloyd's entire filmography consists of _Red Dwarf_ & various tie-ins. British sitcoms are never, ever, ever, ever, ever funny.

David Raposa, Monday, 9 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I think that should be Robert Llewellyn, not Llod. Two double LL names - that'd just be cruel.

And shouldn't you be on the Junkyard Wars board which incidentally ILE has now overtaken. That's right, we are more popular than a bunch of people talking about a bunch of people making machine out of rubbish. Phew!

Pete, Tuesday, 10 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

1. Whats the Marine Research/Scrapheap Challenge thing?

2. What about Blossom's sidekick Six? Played by Jenna Von Oy, I was head over heals in love with her through my teens, like a prototype version of Willow syndrome, I even wrote her a fan letter once.

3. Odd: the rasta merry man was played by Danny John Jules, who played the Cat in early Red Dwarf.

4. Penfold was the best of all.

christopher, Tuesday, 10 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Saw a poster in Latimer Road yesterday of a cute furry toy wearing a shirt with the word 'Sidekick' printed on it - made me think of this thread. Anybody know what it's plugging?

Andrew L, Tuesday, 10 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

hmm, maybe i should get myself a sidekick. he could be all self- deprecatory and possibly slightly dim in an 'endearing' way, while i could, like, get all the girls or something. i'm not up for pseudo- hero tight suits though, although i could easily be persuaded into wearing a hat.

gareth, Tuesday, 10 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

It could be plugging the lamo shooter "Sidekick" which has popped up in central London bars lately. Mind you that has a radicaly different TV ad so...

Pete, Tuesday, 10 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Chris:

1. Channel 4 show Scrapheap Challenge co-hosted by Cathy Rogers from Marine Research.

2. You are a sad, sad man.

3. Not just early Red Dwarf, all Red Dwarf.

4. I agree.

Oh, and I still think Will Riker = classic. And Data. Not Chakotay though, he's shit.

Ally C, Tuesday, 10 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Sidekick...ITV digital, but you probably knew that by now!

james e l, Sunday, 15 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

four years pass...
[...attaching this balloon, so the thread dutifully rises up to bob briefly on the surface of New Answers]

Aimless (Aimless), Saturday, 27 May 2006 17:17 (nineteen years ago)

frontkicks r better

gbx (skowly), Saturday, 27 May 2006 18:00 (nineteen years ago)


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