Celebrities you would consider friends?

Jennifer Aniston, Matt Le Blanc, Courtney Cox(-Arquette), David Schwimmer, Lisa Kudrow and Matthew Perry. I consider all of them Friends.

This brings to mind a couple of other questions. Such as: which celebrities would you not be friends with if they asked you? So if there's a sleb you are constantly slaggin off in everyday life, would you be their mate if they asked you just to get into good parties and have free champagne and meet other top slebz? Of course you would! All your scruples would go out the window in the face of potential hanger-on-dom.

The natural progression to this is shagging celebrities on the sole basis of their celebrity status so you can sell the story to the News of the World. Are there any you wouldn't?

The whole point of this thread sits kinda uncomfortably with me. Not because of the inherant name-dropping (Hey! I have no problem with namedropping! Did I mention I saw Stereolab at the studio last week?) but because we've just recently had a discussion like this on a Dandy Warhols mailing list.

The whole "being friends with celebrities" thing is very... erm... slippery ground, because celebrity, even by association, is so fucking addictive. There's this weird Ur-world of hangers-on that surrounds celebrities, as if being FRIENDS with the star was as much of an accomplishment as being a star in the first place. That really sickened me, when I saw people that I formerly respected, trading their own self respect and their own autonomy and opinions for the privilige of being a... starfucker, for lack of a better world. And there was so much weird *competitiveness*, fighting for the favour of the star, and boasting about it.

Weird, weird, scene, it really disgusted me, and I had to get out of it very quickly.

Add to that, it's just weird when you meet and become "friends" with someone that you previously idolised. No matter how well balanced or whatever you think you are, it's still a headfuck. And almost invariably disappointing, when someone that you idolised turns out to be unfortunately all too human.

However, all of this is about meeting people who are already stars. It's also quite wierd when people that you already know become "a celebrity", but I think it's ultimately probably easier to deal with, aside from the natural human feelings of jealousy.

I have no friends. If I had a celebrity friend, I'd want it to be Damon Albarn.

What, so you could abuse him, Ally? Can I come round and tweeze his eyebrows? PLEASE?!?!?

Ooh err! Hot eyebrow-tweezing ACTION!

Dude hey, I am the eyebrow freak around here. NO ONE ELSE. Psh. You can Nad his legs though if you want, that could be wicked fun.

Hey, he already shaved his legs for that infamous "Blondie" photo shoot, where would the fun be in that?

Jeez, Ally, are you obsessed with EYEBROWS?!??! That is too weird for words. Are we gonna have to back on that "prove you're not the same person as me" thing again? ;-)

I was going to abstain from Nadding Damon's legs because that just sounds DIRTY. I then got a mental image of him sobbing and pleading with me to stop as I merrily yanked hunks of hair from his legs with green, allegedly-edible goop. Pain is an awful thing except for when it's really, really funny.

Nads is edible? That makes it the only edible thing in my house besides cat food.

Anyhow, yes, I'm utterly obsessed with eyebrows, I have made awful eyebrows a sticking point in relationships, as unnormal as that sounds.

Someone posted a link to a site where there was a guy eating Nads not too long ago.

(rereads sentence, walks quickly in other direction whistling and trying to look innocent)

Argh, see I have judged people (mostly celebrities) *entirely* on the evilness of their eyebrows. (Hence why I dislike Damon Albarn, Courtney Taylor and Oasis.)

But what is your specific sticking point? It is the unibrow thing that they grow across the bridge of their nose? Or is it the *shape* of their eyebrows?

Explanation: I was born entirely without eyebrows at all. When I finally *grew* some eyebrows, around puberty, they only grew in halfway. My mother took me to a local "stylist" or whatever, to be taught to put on makeup to fix my eyebrows.

Said makeup artist instructed me very carefully, that when you paint in your eyebrows, you should be careful that they arch, and then start to descend *within* the space defined by the width of your actual eye. If you arched your eyebrow *outside* the width of your eye, then you would look "evil" like Joan Crawford, or even worse, like Mr. Spock.

I clearly took this advice to heart, as I have forever held it against people if they have "evil" eyebrows.

Then again, Paul has *evil* eyebrows, and I still date him, so it must be true love. {;-)

If I had celebrity friends I'd choose: Charlie Sheen, Rachael Leigh Cook, Prince and Uri Geller

The only celebrity I've really hung out with is Carnell Lake (American football player, starting safety for Jacksonville), and on a certain level I don't feel like he counts because he maried my cousin and is therefore not a celebrity but family. Mad cool guy, though.

I'm a natural blonde, Kate, so my eyebrows are accordingly light, as is all my body hair. Being in an Italian/Spanish family I felt freakish and learned by myself very early on how to do my eyebrows proper, reading magazines and stuff. Which of course results in some disasters - the ultra thin look when that was in was just awful on me. But yeah, I'm very very careful about my own eyebrows and I just can't deal with people who arent interested in their own eyebrows because they're SO BLOODY IMPORTANT FOR FUCK'S SAKE.

Sorry, but nothing changes your face like changing your brows.

I hate anything that I deem inappropriate for the face, so it changes from person to person but some steadfasts are too pale eyebrows, moderate to severe unibrows, over plucking, that Mariah Carey upside- down-"U" look.

I am distraught this week, because the cat stole my tweezerman and I know that he's hiding it somewhere. He's attracted to shiny metallic things, much like Puff Daddy.

I am now having visions of Puff Daddy hiding your tweezerman behind the sofa. This has just been the BEST day...

I be he that posted about eating Nads. (And, yes, I type that sentence with PRIDE, damn it.) Here be the link, again.

Celebrities? Ah, who gives a fig? Now, eyebrows - THAT'S a topic. I used to shave ruthlessly to avoid the Gallagher neanderthal uni. Now, I simply sit back & relax. And that's all I have to say about that.

If my cat stole my tweezerman, I'd throw the bastard out a window, honest to god. It was bad enough when he ate the bows off my expensive girly girl heels, or when he took to eating paper towels, or when he threw a full glass bottle of butterscotch schnapps on the floor and had me sticking to the kitchen for days, but the tweezerman means war.

Is Momus a celebrity? If so, yes.

Uh-oh, this now means that Ally and I can never meet, because she is critical of eyebrows and I am supersensitive about my eyebrows. I've been a bottle blonde since my hair darkened naturally around puberty (it just isn't fair! When we were little, my brother and I both had shining gold hair which has turned dirt-coloured.) but my EYEBROWS NEVER DARKENED!!! If I leave my hair its natural colour, my eyebrows look silly. I think this is the reason I can have 4" roots and people still think that my hair is natural.

Oh, I feel so inadequate. I've never tweezed in my life. I naired my eyebrows once, because my brother shaved his eyebrows (to play a Samuriin a school play) and they grew back think and dark and really nice. I shaved mine, and nothing happened. No one even NOTICED. I wonder if I could put Rogaine or something on my brow region to grow them in or something.

But I agree with Ally, it's not so much about unibrow (though unibrow is a sin) as it is about shape. Our keyboard player plucks hers to the point where they are scarily thin, permanent arches of surprise above her face. This look really bothers me.

Oh! And to bring this full circle, speaking of celebrities I once knew, did you know that Peter Holmstrom has his unibrow PERMANANTLY ELECTROLYSISED in the eighth grade? It's sick on one level, but on another level, well, he does have perfect eyebrows now.

Dan: Someone posted a link to a site where there was a guy eating Nads not too long ago.

For those unaware of the fact, I should point out that nads (Brit) and Nads (US) are not quite the same thing.

Madchen, I'm not sure there's as much of a difference as you think there is. :)

I promise I won't be critical of your eyebrows. I might even shape and color them for you.

And "nads" means the same thing in the US it means everywhere. Which is why Australians really disturb me these days, I mean, WHY make a product and call it "Nads"?

They are amused by the idea of people putting Nads all over their body? And being able to "eat" Nads?

There is a type of sweet called Nads available in the UK.

Kate talks a lot of sense about scenes and shleb-cults.

With what I do for a living, the celeb friend is an occupational hazard, as is believing celebs are your friends when they're just being friendly. People get so playground jealous around celebrities, and it's really the people working for them that get proprietorial and/or try to upgrade their relationship while downgrading yours. Obviously in 'normal' life someone who worked with/for a friend wouldn't have any say in who their employer's friends were.

To be really blunt, it's the wannabes and the almosts that are the worst. One of my friends got a book deal that made the papers and it went to her head, being famous for a week. When it came out two years later, it bombed. Throughout this time and afterward she was disrespectful and occasionally downright vile to anyone who questioned her newfound status or didn't treat her differently, ie. with reverence.

I've gone out with people who could be called famous and it was the one who was the most insecure about his position and profile that tried to pull rank on me. I did point this out to him as I grabbed my coat.

If someone famous seems like they're after my friendship, I check them out. How do they treat their oldest friends? If they're shitty about Those Left Behind, I run a mile. If not, they're probably all right and they probably mean it about going for drinks!

Stevie T.

Who is or is not a celebrity? Living in a parallel universe: Classic or Dud?