Lemony Snicket: C or D?

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The great writer of our times, or a cockfarming smartarse?

you decide.

DV (dirtyvicar), Tuesday, 17 December 2002 12:15 (twenty-two years ago)

d-u-d.

RJG (RJG), Tuesday, 17 December 2002 12:18 (twenty-two years ago)

Classic. The only children's literature I bother with.

Madchen (Madchen), Tuesday, 17 December 2002 12:46 (twenty-two years ago)

The title just sounded too twee, even for me.

Nicole (Nicole), Tuesday, 17 December 2002 13:02 (twenty-two years ago)

He is on 69 Love Songs = classic

Alan (Alan), Tuesday, 17 December 2002 13:19 (twenty-two years ago)

He's very charming and funny irl.

Richard Jones (scarne), Tuesday, 17 December 2002 13:53 (twenty-two years ago)

Classic. He only really has one joke, but the odd thing about it is that it gets funnier every time he tells it. Plus, he has a character named Esmé Squalor, which is pretty brilliant.

Douglas, Wednesday, 18 December 2002 06:23 (twenty-two years ago)

Bonus points for Brett Helquist's illustrations and the ruffly page edges (which the Brit versions don't have).

Madchen (Madchen), Thursday, 19 December 2002 10:37 (twenty-two years ago)

Did anyone see the BBC4 prog about him the other night?

harveyw, Thursday, 19 December 2002 13:32 (twenty-two years ago)

HARVEY!!! um no, sorry ;) i believe that Sarah thinks L.S. is the best thing evah though, so her to thread!

katie (katie), Thursday, 19 December 2002 13:36 (twenty-two years ago)

one month passes...
There's nothing wrong with him at all.

ls, Saturday, 1 February 2003 02:02 (twenty-two years ago)

Snicket rocks. The autobiography double book jacket is the best.

My kiddos didn't dig him too much when I read one of the books to them. Fuck them, what do they know?

That Girl (thatgirl), Saturday, 1 February 2003 05:05 (twenty-two years ago)

one year passes...
This worries me:

http://www.lemonysnicket.com/movie.html

because
a) Jim Carrey is in it
b) Billy Connolly is in it
c) Meryl Streep is in it

These are 3 of my least favourite actors of all time. Also, Klaus has no glasses in the film

Madchen (Madchen), Wednesday, 14 April 2004 08:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Jim Carrey seems to be morphing into Christoper Lloyd.

Agreed horrible casting - apart from Tim Spall. I have a sense of dread about the film which I suppose is only appropriate.

robster (robster), Wednesday, 14 April 2004 08:24 (twenty-one years ago)

two months pass...
http://www.apple.com/trailers/paramount/lemony_snickets/

This looks surprisingly good, given that it's a kid's movie and has Jim Carrey. A Tim Burton-lite vibe.

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Saturday, 26 June 2004 19:31 (twenty-one years ago)

I am seriously, genuinely, losing breath over this. The trailer looks amazing, stunning, revelatory. I love Jim Carrey. I love the Snicket books. I am toying with fainting.

Thanks milo!

Gregory Henry (Gregory Henry), Saturday, 26 June 2004 20:02 (twenty-one years ago)

wow, that looks excellent. I only read the first two books. I wonder if this will be a one-off? Is it only based on vol. 1? Would they really do eight of these films?

kyle (akmonday), Saturday, 26 June 2004 21:25 (twenty-one years ago)

It's based on books 1-3. The thinking behind this decision is presumably that films have three acts.

G., Saturday, 26 June 2004 21:32 (twenty-one years ago)

I was hoping the Voiceover Man would say something like 'I am honour-bound to describe the awful events of this film, but you are by no means bound to watch it and might prefer something of this nature' (cut to bunnies hopping in a field)...

...but he didn't.

Vic Fluro, Saturday, 26 June 2004 22:06 (twenty-one years ago)

My 12-year-old niece just got a "signed" (embossed with "sincerest regards" or something written in next to the seal) Lemony Snicket book in the mail for helping with the website(?).

roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Saturday, 26 June 2004 22:25 (twenty-one years ago)

How are the books compared to the Harry Potters? (I tried to read the first HP and didn't like it) I want to find Handler's two adult novels, they sound interesting.

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Saturday, 26 June 2004 22:49 (twenty-one years ago)

'The Basic Eight' is AMAZING! It's definitely my favourite teen novel. 'Watch Your Mouth', is, erm, squelchy. People seem to find to find it erotic, which I guess makes me lots of prude...

Gregory Henry (Gregory Henry), Saturday, 26 June 2004 23:05 (twenty-one years ago)

Compared to the Potters: Smarter, darker, faster, better. I do like Rowling, she writes for kids in a very genuine way, there's no condescension, whereas Hander just wants the smart ones with him, and there's plenty of plenty of stuff chucked way over their heads (I think there's a "petit mort" joke!).

Also, shorter.

Gregory Henry (Gregory Henry), Saturday, 26 June 2004 23:09 (twenty-one years ago)

sorry to do a ned but I still don't like these or the basic eight or NUTHIN'.

RJG (RJG), Saturday, 26 June 2004 23:16 (twenty-one years ago)

thanks for the link dude,
my whole family's psyched now!
(RJG, stay home.)

Begs2Differ (Begs2Differ), Sunday, 27 June 2004 00:14 (twenty-one years ago)

the movie might be fun, though.

; )

RJG (RJG), Sunday, 27 June 2004 00:18 (twenty-one years ago)

I stand by what I said on 14th April.

Madchen (Madchen), Sunday, 27 June 2004 07:57 (twenty-one years ago)

jim carrey is a great actor.

billy connolly, meryl streep, timothy spall, I'm not so sure.

cozen (Cozen), Sunday, 27 June 2004 08:08 (twenty-one years ago)

The kids look too old?

Chuck Tatum (Chuck Tatum), Monday, 28 June 2004 14:15 (twenty-one years ago)

?

Eisbär (llamasfur), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 00:35 (twenty-one years ago)

i just like the name "Lemony Snicket" -- i dunno what the fuck it's supposed to be!

Eisbär (llamasfur), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 00:36 (twenty-one years ago)

nine years pass...

"There's nothing wrong with him at all.
― ls, Saturday, 1 February 2003 02:02 (10 years ago)"

I hope this was Handler posting about himself.

akm, Monday, 4 November 2013 03:21 (eleven years ago)

ha! awesome find

ilx from nine years ago seems awfully down on meryl streep

certified skeleton fucker (reddening), Monday, 4 November 2013 03:47 (eleven years ago)

my kid is loving these books like none other he's ever read, you can barely get him to lift his head from the page

Guayaquil (eephus!), Monday, 4 November 2013 04:46 (eleven years ago)

these books are surprisingly close to being pynchon jr. think there are a couple direct references, even. also the gothic archies album w a song for each book has some great stephin merritt doggerel on it, partic "shipwrecked" which takes a sick second-verse turn i always love.

movie's pretty good, prefer the imagery (meryl streep's house clinging to the cliffside, emily browning's practical gothwear) to most of harry potter's.

i want to say one word to you, just one word:buzzfeed (difficult listening hour), Monday, 4 November 2013 10:45 (eleven years ago)

I think the books, especially being ostensibly aimed at kids, are truly subversive and challenging. Whether she knows it or not, my daughter picked up on so much literary irony, post-modernism, etc. from these books. The fact that there are entertaining digressions into the intricacies of, say, King Lear, made this as much fun for me to read as it was for her.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 4 November 2013 14:42 (eleven years ago)

I actually looked this up because we're about half way through book 4 and my son is obsessed with them. I'd read the first 3 around the time they came out and liked them but reading them to/with a 7 year old is way more fun.

akm, Monday, 4 November 2013 16:06 (eleven years ago)

three years pass...

The Netflix series is fantastic--very "Pushing Daisies"

voodoo chili, Tuesday, 17 January 2017 17:50 (eight years ago)

yeah, watched this over the weekend having never read the books or seen the movie and i was really impressed - the deliberate stagey/fakiness of the production design is super-striking and the performances are wonderful, especially patrick warburton. the darkness of the story, and the general idiocy of the adults set against the smartness and composure of the kids, really reminded me of roald dahl

How To: Make the perfect summer jorts (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 17 January 2017 18:10 (eight years ago)

My wife said she had to bail on this after a few minutes because it was too much like a Wes Anderson movie -- which certainly piqued my curiosity.

aaaaaaaauuuuuuuuu (melting robot) (WilliamC), Tuesday, 17 January 2017 18:12 (eight years ago)

K. Todd Freeman is so good as Mr. Poe, the ultimate procedural uncurious drone.

voodoo chili, Tuesday, 17 January 2017 18:12 (eight years ago)

devoured these books as a kid, but i lost interest by the time the last (13th?) one came out. 2004 movie sucked, doubt i'd be into the new one with NPH. have no interest into revisiting the books: just looking at the covers and remembering the miserable stories remind me of how shitty and powerless being a kid could be. they also seemed designed to get kids that weren't into Harry Potter hooked on reading. i learned a lot of words though from LS - ersatz, austere, penultimate, quagmire. so, CLASSIC

flappy bird, Tuesday, 17 January 2017 18:15 (eight years ago)

The Wes Anderson comparisons are apt, precocious kids, anachronisms such as the internet coexisting with rotary telephones, an independent narrator...

Really, the show's stylistic antecedent is Pushing Daisies, which was also directed by Barry Sonenfeld--it shares the visual inventiveness (though Pushing Daisies was very colorful and ASOUE is intentionally gray), the omniscient narrator, and the whimsical, yet serious, take on death.

voodoo chili, Tuesday, 17 January 2017 18:21 (eight years ago)

I thought the books were sort of brilliant, totally subversive and one of those few things people say that have as much to offer for adults as they do for kids, save those handful of kids who find "King Lear" gags, Melville references and the like funny. If anything it reminded me more than a little bit of "Tristram Shandy." Anyway, saw a couple of the episodes with the kids and thought them pretty solid, though by nature they lack a lot of the intentionally and hilariously indulgent literary riffs.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 17 January 2017 18:37 (eight years ago)

definitely remember feeling a sense of superiority reading the books over Harry Potter as a kid, because of all the big words and literary references. i loved how creepy, dark, and fucked up they were. but the Sisyphean struggle of the kids is not really something I want to revisit right now.

flappy bird, Tuesday, 17 January 2017 18:43 (eight years ago)

xp - they manage to sneak in some literary references in weird places--there's a cab driver who has a strange fixation with Melville in one of the later episodes, for example.

voodoo chili, Tuesday, 17 January 2017 18:48 (eight years ago)


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