Naked Lunch - Restored vs. Normal

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I bought the restored version of Naked Lunch today (the book, of course) and I have read that it's completely different -- and much worse -- than the other version. Any opinions?

William X, Monday, 4 October 2004 01:56 (twenty years ago)

Uh, I've read the original version like five times. Never even seen the expanded/restored whatever versh. Is it much longer or something? The regular one is 213pp.

AaronHz (AaronHz), Monday, 4 October 2004 02:03 (twenty years ago)

Am I right in assuming this was a gimmic James Grauerholz cooked up after Bill bit the big one? Was he involved in this at all before his death?

AaronHz (AaronHz), Monday, 4 October 2004 02:05 (twenty years ago)

Which version is which? I was surprised because I recently bought the British edition at a charity version and it's about half the thickness of the American one I remember from my teens. Not that I can really tell if anything has been removed... I mean, once you've read about one giant grey alien catapillar dopefiend buggering little boys on the gallows, you're really read them all... ;-)

Danger Whore (kate), Monday, 4 October 2004 08:20 (twenty years ago)

Chapter headings in my "Normal" 213pp (not counting appandix) edition, if this helps at all:
(first ch. doesn't have one of course, it begins with "I can feel the heat closing in,")
BENWAY
JOSELITO
THE BLACK MEAT
HOSPITAL
LAZARUS GO HOME
HASSAN'S RUMPUS ROOM
CAMPUS OF INTERZONE UNIVERSITY
A.J.'S ANNUAL PARTY
MEETING OF INTERNATIONAL CONFERENCE OF TECHNOLOGICAL PSYCHIATRY
THE MARKET
ORDINARY MEN AND WOMEN
ISLAM INCORPORATED AND THE PARTIES OF INTERZONE
THE COUNTY CLERK
INTERZONE
THE EXAMINATION
HAVE YOU SEEN PANTOPON ROSE
COKE BUGS
THE EXTERMINATOR DOES A GOOD JOB
THE ALGEBRA OF NEED
HAUSER AND O'BRIEN
ATROPHIED PREFACE
QUICK...

AaronHz (AaronHz), Monday, 4 October 2004 08:36 (twenty years ago)

Yes, that appears to be the one that I have, but it's got an "introduction by J.G.Ballard" and some preliminary notes by Bill to the effect of "drugs are bad, kids, don't do them" and discussing his various rehab treatments in it. Oh, and some letters he received from the British Journal of Addiction at the end.

It's quite amazing, he's going on at the beginning about how legal prescriptions would "cure the junk disease by the end of the century" or something like that. Famous last words...

Danger Whore (kate), Monday, 4 October 2004 08:40 (twenty years ago)

That's actually an article he wrote FOR the BJOA, yes it's pretty fascinating all that apomorphine stuff, anyone heard of that outside of WSB's writings?

Mine also has the Naked Lunch on Trial transcript featuring Allen Ginsberg, and the Introductory "Deposition" by WSB. It's a big yellow paperback with the graphic logo from the film. This is slightly different than the one I bought when I was 14, it didn't have the trial transcript and it said "Now a major motion picture", etc on the front, otherwise it was the same yellow book. I lent that out when I was 17 and never got it back.
I had another small black paperback edition at one point, gave that one away.

Never read this JG Ballard intro, any good?

AaronHz (AaronHz), Monday, 4 October 2004 08:50 (twenty years ago)

It's quite amazing, he's going on at the beginning about how legal prescriptions would "cure the junk disease by the end of the century" or something like that. Famous last words...

i wonder if the majority of media-level junkies were less known for shooting their wives in the head, whether such a situation could come about (doubtful i guess, but Burroughs hardly helps his own cause, as far as the 'straight' world is concerned)

stevie (stevie), Monday, 4 October 2004 08:51 (twenty years ago)

Man, you can never discuss Burroughs without someone bringing up the shooting the wife in the head thing.

AaronHz (AaronHz), Monday, 4 October 2004 08:57 (twenty years ago)

My favorite overheard convo about this:
"He murdered his wife!"
"Well, he was gay, you know."

AaronHz (AaronHz), Monday, 4 October 2004 09:01 (twenty years ago)

The JG Ballard intro is pretty rub, actually. For a start, it's only a page long, and for a second, it's all the usual "Ohmigod, transgressive, weird, kinky, I love it!" type adulation. I have very mixed feelings about Burroughs and about his mythology.

On the one hand, I do think that he's a brilliant writer, and I enjoy his work immensely. Even rereading Naked Lunch as an adult, I'm amazed by how inventive, and also how *funny* it is in places.

As a teenager and in my late teens, I loved the whole self destructive junkie mythologising aspect of it, because I was young and stupid and self destructive. In a lot of ways, my friends and I kind of held up this whole indestructible viewpoint of "Well, Bill Burroughs is still alive, so it doesn't matter what I do to myself." There's a part of me that's nostalgic for that whole thing, even though there's a bigger part of me that thinks "some of my friends are dead because of this crap, god, that was so harmful and awful".

But he does make up for all that damage because at the end of the day, the writing is so good. I suppose if the writing wasn't good, it wouldn't have made the whole thing so glamourous and attractive in the first place.

Danger Whore (kate), Monday, 4 October 2004 09:05 (twenty years ago)

Well yeah, he was like the funniest motherfucker ever, in interviews as well.
Search "With William Burroughs" by Victor Bockris, "The Job" with Daniel Odier, and I'm sure the Collected Interviews book has some great stuff in it as well, haven't got my hands on it yet.

I like this exchange from "The Job":

Q: The Beat/Hip axis, notably in such figures as Ginsberg, want to transform the world by love and nonviolence. Do you share this interest?

A: Most emphatically no. The people in power will not disappear voluntarily, giving flowers to cops just isn't going to work. This thinking is fostered by the establishment; they like nothing better than love and nonviolence. The only way I like to see cops given flowers is in a flower pot from a high window.

AaronHz (AaronHz), Monday, 4 October 2004 09:23 (twenty years ago)

I had this interview tape thing with him, and it was hillarious. He was so dry. He was giving all this advice like "when you do business with a god-fearing Christian... get it in WRITING!!!"

I'm surprised that no one has sampled "Thou shalt not blow potsmoke into the face of thy PET!"

I think that's what kept him from being pretentious and annoying in the style of many of the other Beats. He just had this dry, midwestern sense of self depreciation and seeing the funny side of very dark things.

Danger Whore (kate), Monday, 4 October 2004 09:27 (twenty years ago)

oh man I would love to hear that! Is it still available from anywhere?

AaronHz (AaronHz), Monday, 4 October 2004 09:33 (twenty years ago)

I have no idea. I don't even remember which label it was on, this was in the 1980s some time.

Danger Whore (kate), Monday, 4 October 2004 09:34 (twenty years ago)

Ah, well I'll keep an eye out regardless.
I sure hope Burroughs: The Movie gets a DVD release sometime soon. I've watched my VHS dub a bajillion times. Are there any other docs anyone knows of?

AaronHz (AaronHz), Monday, 4 October 2004 09:38 (twenty years ago)

(hmmm, imdb says there's one called Commissioner of Sewers that looks interesting - an hour long interview. Anyone seen it?)

AaronHz (AaronHz), Monday, 4 October 2004 09:55 (twenty years ago)

I had this interview tape thing with him, and it was hillarious. He was so dry. He was giving all this advice like "when you do business with a god-fearing Christian... get it in WRITING!!!"

That's part of his bit "Words of Advice for Young People". There's a version of that on his album Spare Ass Annie, with backing music from the Disposable Heroes of Hiphoprisy, and there's another spoken word version on the Giorno Poetry Systems comp Smack My Crack. Somewhere in my boxes of tapes I have a live performance of him doing this, too.

Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Monday, 4 October 2004 13:24 (twenty years ago)

I've just got hold of a VHS copy of the Arena documentary from the 80's. Will be digitising it soon - if anyone wants a copy then get in touch - I doubt there are very many copies in the world. It's really, really great, a nice overview of his personal history (that doesn't dwell on the shooting of Joan Vollmer and gives his later life as much credit if not more than the 50's/60's stuff) and it's got some down and out great crazy-old-man footage.

I've not heard of the "restored" version - it sounds like a bit of a cash-in bad idea - the only major thing to be restored to it is the chapter "WORD" which you can get in the collection "Interzone". As a chapter it's a lot more free-verse than the others and a lot more obscene, everyone involved says it "got lost" at the time but somehow I think that they'd've got into a far worse censorship battle if it had been in there.

The chapter orders are apparently from the random way that it came back from the typesetters, although Burroughs switched I Feel The Heat to the beginning and Hauser and O'Brien to the (near) end to make the shooting of the policeman "frame" the book. I really don't get someone trying to re-order or restore it as there is certainly no "directors cut" version to restore. After all this is a book that tells you that you can "cut into it at any point" and from a man who said "the novel form is dead and arbitary - I can't use it". Pandering to structure seems a little wierd, unless of course Grauerholz needs a holiday or something.

If you want a new take on the material or whatever get "The Letters of William Burroughs" which shows all the material and stylistics emerging in letters to Allen Ginsberg. Or get "Interzone" which collects a lot of superfluous (often equally as good) stuff from the era, and the "missing chapter".

Gribowitz (Lynskey), Monday, 4 October 2004 13:37 (twenty years ago)

Ooh - if anyone's interested in the Arena thing my email is ly*skey@v*lentinerecords.co.uk

Gribowitz (Lynskey), Monday, 4 October 2004 13:38 (twenty years ago)

For a bit I was wondering why Kate was interested in Naked Lunch and then I remembered her thing for slash porn.
I guess it's not that big of a leap...

AaronHz (AaronHz), Tuesday, 5 October 2004 07:03 (twenty years ago)


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