Girl Aloud Racism Shocker!

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Now i know why Javine was kicked out! Bastards!

doom-e, Monday, 13 January 2003 12:46 (twenty-two years ago)

Argh! I have no idea who Girls Aloud are! And I love pop controversies.

Andrew Thames (Andrew Thames), Monday, 13 January 2003 14:57 (twenty-two years ago)

they sing that *this* is the "Sound of the Underground", when it clearly isn't. But I know nothing of the individual band members.

MarkH (MarkH), Monday, 13 January 2003 15:02 (twenty-two years ago)

They've been at Number One for the last four weeks, Andrew. They won Popstars: the Rivals. Do you hate fun?

N. (nickdastoor), Monday, 13 January 2003 15:03 (twenty-two years ago)

just racism! cheryl tweedy attacked a black toilet attendant, calling her a black bitch and punching in the face...

doom-e, Monday, 13 January 2003 15:05 (twenty-two years ago)

No, the sound of thge undergrouns is that rumble rumble whoosh sound, plus "Mind The Gap - Stand CLear OF The Doors Please".

Pete (Pete), Monday, 13 January 2003 15:06 (twenty-two years ago)

They sound annoying so I'd probably enjoy them... I live in NZ N, I had no idea there was such a thing as Popstars: the Rivals.

Andrew Thames (Andrew Thames), Monday, 13 January 2003 15:07 (twenty-two years ago)

I guess she was just pissed off by the high probability that that's the job she'll be doing a year or so from now.

Marcello Carlin, Monday, 13 January 2003 15:08 (twenty-two years ago)

this is not exactly proven yet: one side is claiming one thing happened, the other side another...

mark s (mark s), Monday, 13 January 2003 15:09 (twenty-two years ago)

Pshaw Mark, why let that get in the way of a potentially libellous conversation.

Pete (Pete), Monday, 13 January 2003 15:10 (twenty-two years ago)

baudrillard to thread...

Marcello Carlin, Monday, 13 January 2003 15:10 (twenty-two years ago)

Why do these people never watch the careers of the previous winners? Isn't it pretty much always initial number one followed by nothing but MAYBE a job doing low-profile TV presenting? Maybe that's just here...

Andrew Thames (Andrew Thames), Monday, 13 January 2003 15:10 (twenty-two years ago)

i have this picture of the girls rallying around cheryl, crying, saying 'no...' whilst helping her erect fiery crosses on the jailhouse grounds in support of her racist motives.

doom-e, Monday, 13 January 2003 15:12 (twenty-two years ago)

the cheeky girls would never do that!

doom-e, Monday, 13 January 2003 15:13 (twenty-two years ago)

nor would one true voice!

Marcello Carlin, Monday, 13 January 2003 15:14 (twenty-two years ago)

I know who the Cheeky Girls are, N! I consider THEM fun.

Andrew Thames (Andrew Thames), Monday, 13 January 2003 15:15 (twenty-two years ago)

No-one would notice if one true voice did it.

Andrew - Girls Aloud beat the CG's.

Pete (Pete), Monday, 13 January 2003 15:16 (twenty-two years ago)

Better than "Touch My Bum"??? I can't wait!

Andrew Thames (Andrew Thames), Monday, 13 January 2003 15:18 (twenty-two years ago)

I guess she was just pissed off by the high probability that that's the job she'll be doing a year or so from now

haha

Graham (graham), Monday, 13 January 2003 15:18 (twenty-two years ago)

oh sigh. they are just following in the footsteps of mark s's beloved hear'say.

the question being this: does davina know about this?

the second question: who are one true voice?

doom-e, Monday, 13 January 2003 15:19 (twenty-two years ago)

"Girls Aloud beat the CG's"? Fuckin' hell Pete, have you got any pictures? Post them you slackah! ;-)

Marcello Carlin, Monday, 13 January 2003 15:21 (twenty-two years ago)

BACK OFF NERDS...I'LL HIT YOU....I'LL TAKE YOU AND THE CHEEKY EUROTRASH GIRLS ON...

*raises fist threateningly*

cheryl tweedy, Monday, 13 January 2003 15:22 (twenty-two years ago)

Low-profile TV presenting is better than cleaning toilets mate.

Jarlr'mai (jarlrmai), Monday, 13 January 2003 15:23 (twenty-two years ago)

YA SO BACK OFF...YOUSE PROBABLY NOT FROM ENGERLAND ANYWAYS....

cheryl tweedy, Monday, 13 January 2003 15:24 (twenty-two years ago)

(that was a far too subtle sarcastic haha at that shockingly boring joke)

Graham (graham), Monday, 13 January 2003 15:25 (twenty-two years ago)

Low-profile TV presenting is better than cleaning toilets mate.

key and urgent question: what will happen when EVERYONE in england becomes a television presenter?

doom-e, Monday, 13 January 2003 15:25 (twenty-two years ago)

Nobody will be watching them.

Marcello Carlin, Monday, 13 January 2003 15:27 (twenty-two years ago)

i wondered that....maybe that is why the reality tv show was created in engerland - too financially support the non-talented hacks in this country.

doom-e, Monday, 13 January 2003 15:30 (twenty-two years ago)

maybe, with girls aloud, gareth gates will go away?

doom-e, Monday, 13 January 2003 15:32 (twenty-two years ago)

won't they watch each other?

MarkH (MarkH), Monday, 13 January 2003 15:39 (twenty-two years ago)

i am envisioning a jg ballard future where all are television presenters. imagine a trip to tescos presented by kym from hear'say and nicole from girls aloud?

doom-e, Monday, 13 January 2003 15:51 (twenty-two years ago)

now that's a nightmare scenario!

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Monday, 13 January 2003 15:58 (twenty-two years ago)

This would never have happened in Daphne and Celeste's day.

Tag, Monday, 13 January 2003 16:17 (twenty-two years ago)

How much of a racist does it make you if you say something racist in a scrap? I mean, I don't know how much people tend to chat while they're punching and being punched, but if they do they'd be likely to use any characteristic of the other person as bizarre grounds for abuse I reckon. I could imagine saying "Take that, ya ginger bum", or "You're going down, fatso", or "Leave me alone, ya cock-eyed whore", and I don't have anything against these things.

Eyeball Kicks (Eyeball Kicks), Monday, 13 January 2003 16:45 (twenty-two years ago)

How quaint Daphne & Celeste now seem.

N. (nickdastoor), Monday, 13 January 2003 16:46 (twenty-two years ago)

oh god, not that one again.

(re. eyeball kicks not N.)

michael wells (michael w.), Monday, 13 January 2003 16:48 (twenty-two years ago)

I think that's the most depressing response you can get to a post. Sorry for boring you, Michael!

Eyeball Kicks (Eyeball Kicks), Monday, 13 January 2003 16:55 (twenty-two years ago)

sorry eyeball it's just that it crops up every time. imofwiw if you use racist language in any situation then you're being racist. just cause it's a fight doesn't excuse it. the fact that it's used negatively betrays yr prejudice.

michael wells (michael w.), Monday, 13 January 2003 16:58 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm with Michael on this. No one says 'brunette bitch!' because it's never used as an insult. Even if you have nothing against ginger haired or fat people, you are aware of the trait being referenced negatively, and you are supporting that. I do tend to think that maybe someone not usually racist, or not racist in any detectable way, might use terms like that in anger, so I wouldn't go assuming that they were NF/BNP at heart for one shouted phrase, but I do think it's evidence of some racism.

That's not meant to be about Cheryl, as all we have at present is one person's word against another's.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Monday, 13 January 2003 20:22 (twenty-two years ago)

'just cause I go gay-bashing and shout things like 'suck on this faggot!' whilst beating them doesn't mean I'm homophobic does it?'

James Blount (James Blount), Monday, 13 January 2003 21:11 (twenty-two years ago)

Let's wait till we're actually in fights and see how restrained our language is, maybe...

Andrew Thames (Andrew Thames), Tuesday, 14 January 2003 02:55 (twenty-two years ago)

Non-specific insults like "fuckwit" etc are ok though, right? That's pretty much what I use (if I ever do) anyway.

Andrew Thames (Andrew Thames), Tuesday, 14 January 2003 02:57 (twenty-two years ago)

I just shout 'Kneel before Zod!'

James Blount, Tuesday, 14 January 2003 03:02 (twenty-two years ago)

Interesting point Eyeball. Perhaps ethically questionable, but if you're in a fight and you're going down sometimes what happens is you say the ONE THING that will make the opponent completely lose control of themselves and while their adrenaline-flushed brains are now coping with the fact that rather than just fighting 'you' there's now the weight of all this social/historical shit in the mix, they fuckin' spaz out, you take the window opened up by that split-second of nasty fascist indulgence to either make an escape or split the fucker's head open, whatever. However, since this applies to desperate life-or-death violence when you have to reach for any advantage [ie verbal equiv. of grabbing a broken bottle from nowhere], I fail to see how this would apply to dealing with a lav attendent, even an ostensibly rude one. Looks more like the "do you know who I am" syndrome all over again, so far so stupid.

dave q, Tuesday, 14 January 2003 11:39 (twenty-two years ago)

I am really riveted by moans about reality tv/popstars and how some day we'll all be..............................whatever.

Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 14 January 2003 11:58 (twenty-two years ago)

Tee hee I love Ronan's raw rudeness.

The old folk like their hobby horses.

N. (nickdastoor), Tuesday, 14 January 2003 12:01 (twenty-two years ago)

Let's wait till we're actually in fights and see how restrained our language is, maybe...

My point was far from being about restraint. I don't refrain from saying racist things because I restrain myself, it's because it wouldn't cross my mind to say such things.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Tuesday, 14 January 2003 18:17 (twenty-two years ago)


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