Did anybody else cry at the end of the 25th hour?

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specifically at the dream sequence

sappymcsapalot (James Blount), Sunday, 19 January 2003 21:58 (twenty-two years ago)

I'ma chump

James Blount (James Blount), Sunday, 19 January 2003 21:59 (twenty-two years ago)

I did.

Ally (mlescaut), Sunday, 19 January 2003 21:59 (twenty-two years ago)

If I knew what it was, I'm sure I'd be in floods of tears.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 19 January 2003 22:05 (twenty-two years ago)

Almost. But I'm a sucker. (It's when someone on screen starts crying that I'm really dead.)

bnw (bnw), Sunday, 19 January 2003 22:12 (twenty-two years ago)

I cry when I see people adding things like "the" to titles that don't contain them

gabbneb (gabbneb), Sunday, 19 January 2003 22:12 (twenty-two years ago)

You must have a hard life.

the bnw (bnw), Sunday, 19 January 2003 22:13 (twenty-two years ago)

CAN IT RUSTY YOUR STORY'S BORING.

I found the movie very, very sad but then again that's cos all my friends are lowlifes and dealers.

Ally (mlescaut), Sunday, 19 January 2003 22:31 (twenty-two years ago)

Yes.

From Ed Norton's final scene in the park (you know which one I mean) all the way through to the dream sequence. What an astounding movie.

mark p (Mark P), Sunday, 19 January 2003 23:51 (twenty-two years ago)

No, but it was great

My favorite part was in the club right after teach kisses the girl and walks out of the bathroom and Spike gets all cinema with it - supergreg action in hard stereo = perfect touch

Millar (Millar), Monday, 20 January 2003 00:32 (twenty-two years ago)

five months pass...
i had to stop myself crying three times (i had company), at 'fuck new york', at under the bridge, and at the dream sequence.. and i dont cry much in movies. wait, maybe i dunno. but you get my point.

mitch lastnamewithheld (mitchlnw), Wednesday, 9 July 2003 21:01 (twenty-one years ago)

'maybe i dunno' was a contraction of 'maybe i do' and 'dunno'. if you were interested.

mitch lastnamewithheld (mitchlnw), Wednesday, 9 July 2003 21:35 (twenty-one years ago)

i cried

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 9 July 2003 21:39 (twenty-one years ago)

Certainly not. This film was over-sentimental rubbish about a very boring man and his slightly more interesting friends. To base an entire film on a mans fear of anal rape is the height of self indulgence. It worked badly as a prequel to the Animal Factory at best.

Pete (Pete), Thursday, 10 July 2003 10:09 (twenty-one years ago)

Thanks for your honest perspective, Pete. It enhanced our
conversation to have a differing honest opinion.
Do you think the movie was about his fear of anal rape or
his realization that his life was effectively over? 8 years
of hard time will change everything about you.
Or are you just trying to say that anal rape is something
not to be feared? to be invited and accepted, perhaps?

For myself, I enjoyed the movie tremendously. I didn't cry
but I did have my emotional moments.

Of course, I'm a hardhead - I can distinctly remember every
time I've cried watching a movie. The first I can remember is
E.T when I was six, and the last two were:

Mulholland Drive, the part with the girl singing Roy Orbison
songs in spanish

and at the end of Rabbit Proof Fence the tears were running
down my face. it was a mixture of 20% sadness at the state
of the world and 80% happiness/respect for the two old women
and what they've gone through and survived, and how they are
still able to smile and laugh.

Suirrel_Poice (Squirrel_Police), Thursday, 10 July 2003 10:42 (twenty-one years ago)

The film was about the narcissist believing his live was effectively over. There seemed to be very little tacit or actual acknowledgement on the lead characters behalf that he was responsible for this state of affairs and that his eventual prison sentence sould actually be a new beginning for him (or at least his release). Certainly he was fixated on his fear of anal rape, to the extent that rather than the suicide the film suggest it mayy end with, he undergoes a (very superficial) process of uglification which he believes will stop him being so attractive. The fact that he could not even do this by himself was the epitamy of his self-absorbtion, he had to incite his friends to beat him up.

The film had some interesting things to say regarding responsibilty (of himself and his friends/family) but the idea of couching this malaise as a parallel to New York post 9/11 malaise seemed a mis-step, as did the heavy handed leading score. I have a lot of respect for Spike Lee, but thought most of this was very badly judged - and in many places just plain boring.

Pete (Pete), Thursday, 10 July 2003 10:53 (twenty-one years ago)

yes, he was a self-centered bastard but I haven't heard anyone argue against that. he was surrounded by sympathetic characters, and if i almost cried it was for them - for the dad, who loved his son so much, he fantasized a scenario where he 'raised himself up by the bootstraps' and raised a good family, despite the fact that his son does not have the character to do that - in fact, his character is molded by irresponsibility and taking the easy way out.

i agree that the movie was boring in a few spots. it was almost playlike at times, with characters sitting in a small area talking about issues. It didn't have Spike Lee's usual involving pacing, as seen in clockers and he got game. It did not have an ongoing sense of tension or excitement, mafia subplot withstanding. but maybe that was his way of portraying a sense of resignation and impending unavoidable doom?

Squrrel_Police (Squirrel_Police), Thursday, 10 July 2003 11:27 (twenty-one years ago)

But that brings up the old bugbear representation of boredom vs being boring.

Perhaps the frustration I had was with the supporting characters being much, much more interesting than the lead. Therefore it felt like a missed opportunity.

Pete (Pete), Thursday, 10 July 2003 12:00 (twenty-one years ago)

one month passes...
I finally watched it last night and was seriously moved. Even though some of the usual Lee heavy handedness popped up in places (the "fuck NY" speech going on waaay too long, the extended shots of the Ground Zero cleanup with the BOOMING ORCHESTRAL SCORE, ...) and Anna Paquin's performance was a bit over the top all was forgiven by the film's end. I thought Norton's character was played perfectly : angry at himself, confused and frightened.

Jay Vee (Manon_70), Friday, 22 August 2003 15:30 (twenty-one years ago)

eleven months pass...
I hated the Fuck NY bit, like that bit in the movie about the ravers from wales where they have new national anthem.

Nellie (nellskies), Monday, 9 August 2004 06:45 (twenty years ago)

People liked this film? Wow, I'm shocked!

Andrew (enneff), Monday, 9 August 2004 06:46 (twenty years ago)

i cried like a baby for the last ten mins when i saw it => i thought it v good. although i am far too sentimental when watching films so this probably shouldn't count for much.

i'm kinda surprised pete disliked it so much.

toby (tsg20), Monday, 9 August 2004 07:39 (twenty years ago)

yeh you cried at the end of Eternal Sunshine... ;) so I'm thinking Pete may be right but I am still intrigued and it sounds like I might 'enjoy' it to some extent

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Monday, 9 August 2004 08:00 (twenty years ago)

I didn't cry, but I thought it was a very underrated film.

Wooden (Wooden), Monday, 9 August 2004 12:07 (twenty years ago)

i'm afraid if i watch it again i'll hate it.

m. (mitchlnw), Monday, 9 August 2004 12:20 (twenty years ago)

four years pass...

How could I have forgotten how much 9/11 imagery there was in this movie? If only there could've been a sign somewhere for Lee to film that said something to the effect that I should never forget.

Nurse Detrius (Eric H.), Sunday, 29 March 2009 18:21 (sixteen years ago)

what a completely awful movie - spkie lee and ed norton have to be the two corniest people in the world

ice cr?m, Sunday, 29 March 2009 18:24 (sixteen years ago)

I also forgot how little this movie adds up to without the 9/11 refs and the two fantasy setpieces.

Nurse Detrius (Eric H.), Sunday, 29 March 2009 18:34 (sixteen years ago)

i found the end sequence pretty moving, tho somewhat corny yah. just like v.o. delivery & the 'this is still a beautiful country' line

johnny crunch, Sunday, 29 March 2009 18:45 (sixteen years ago)

OK, the syndicated version cuts the guts out of that final fantasy sequence, which basically renders the entire movie totally pointless.

Nurse Detrius (Eric H.), Sunday, 29 March 2009 18:59 (sixteen years ago)

Seriously, how do you fucking cut this?

Nurse Detrius (Eric H.), Sunday, 29 March 2009 19:11 (sixteen years ago)

i like corny spike lee

rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Sunday, 29 March 2009 19:11 (sixteen years ago)

there is a lot of 9/11 imagery in this, yeah, but it was also, if I'm not mistaken, the first movie made in NYC after 9/11, and I think that point is really important. I guess you can be all rockist about it and only evaluate the film on it's own merits but I find the movie impossible to divorce from the culture in which it was made.

akm, Sunday, 29 March 2009 19:50 (sixteen years ago)

Yes, watching the montage that got cut reminded me that the 9/11 stuff really was the point of the whole thing. Maybe it's just that repeat viewings make all the superficial plot points more irritatingly off-topic.

Nurse Detrius (Eric H.), Sunday, 29 March 2009 20:00 (sixteen years ago)

http://bestmessageboardever.com/uploads/monthly_04_2008/post-1452-1208646020.jpg

velko, Sunday, 29 March 2009 20:02 (sixteen years ago)

i believe most of it was shot before 9/11

abanana, Sunday, 29 March 2009 20:30 (sixteen years ago)

four months pass...

My favorite ten minutes of film. God, no matter how many times I watch that ending it still devastates me. The unconditional love of the father, certainly, but that vision of 'America.'

ice cr?m paint job (milo z), Tuesday, 4 August 2009 07:57 (fifteen years ago)

and to think the guy who wrote this went on to write the supremely terrible Troy, Stay and X-Men: Wolverine (the other one he's done is The Kite Runner film but i haven't seen it so can't say if it was any good).

Roz, Tuesday, 4 August 2009 08:07 (fifteen years ago)

Wow, that Marvel Comics page is something else. Killing innocents makes supervillains cry.

Dorian (Dorianlynskey), Tuesday, 4 August 2009 09:48 (fifteen years ago)


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