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I have realised recently that I find it impossible to speak on the telephone when there are others around me. It's becoming a phobia now and I get extremely irate if someone's listening in to my conversation - or worse still starts talking to me whilst I'm on the phone.
Often I'll have locked myself into the confines of my room so I can speak to whoever it is on the other end and a member of my family bursts in and just starts asking me questions or telling me something far too important to wait (apparently). This proves even more annoying since both my parents work from home and I would never dream of disturbing either of them if they were on a business call (or any other call for that matter), so why do they do it to me?

Am I weird? Does anyone else have a "thing" about phone etiquette or are you happy to have even the most intimate phone conversation with others hanging on your every word?

dog latin (dog latin), Thursday, 23 January 2003 01:57 (twenty-one years ago) link

I hate being on the phone to people & and I love email and texting for letting me avoid phones more.

Like you, I have to be alone on the phone. I'll go to another room for the most mundane natter. Sometimes I'm on the phone when I'm alone in the house and my girlfriend will come back home so sudden and start saying things related to the phone conversation. I can't take it, I dunno what to do. Am I supposed to ignore her, or answer her while ignoring the person on the phone, or report what she said to phone person & wait for their answer to her?

But yes, you are probably weird, because I am weird. I can't stand people listening in to any of my conversations. If I'm talking to someone on the train I can't bear it if there's someone in the seat behind. Or in the queue in the bank I'll be thinking, "Please let me be summoned by the cashier furthest from the queue lest said queue overhear my business".

Eyeball Kicks (Eyeball Kicks), Thursday, 23 January 2003 02:43 (twenty-one years ago) link

My sister has what I consider strange telephone manners: when on the phone to someone, there is nothing short of sometihng in the room catching fire that will cause her to pay attention to someone else (me) talking to her. Is she rude, or is it me?

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Thursday, 23 January 2003 11:09 (twenty-one years ago) link

NB: this is not because I'm an egotist that can't stand being ignored (though of course I am).

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Thursday, 23 January 2003 11:10 (twenty-one years ago) link

I have total double standards when it comes to the telephone. I cannot stand it when I'm on the telephone and the person on the other end starts talking to somebody else, this happens all the time with my mum and sister, they act like it's a normal conversation and you're in the room with them, leave you hanging on the end of the phone like an eejit while they discuss something totally trivial. However, my boyf said the other day that I talk to him while he's on the phone so therefore I'm cause the same irritation to whoever he's talking to!

smee (smee), Thursday, 23 January 2003 11:15 (twenty-one years ago) link

Good lord. I don't think it's at all acceptable to talk to someone while they're on the phone, unless it is a matter of great Import connected with the phone call, in which case you have to wave your arms around insanely first.

Archel (Archel), Thursday, 23 January 2003 12:51 (twenty-one years ago) link

Archel is right. It is typical that parents expect a kind of respect from their kids that they don't think of offering to them.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Thursday, 23 January 2003 18:29 (twenty-one years ago) link

I agree with Archel as well - especially the insane arm waving part.

luna (luna.c), Thursday, 23 January 2003 19:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

Or leaving a polite little note. I don't like it when people talk to me when I'm on the phone but I don't mind if they write out what they want, so I can still hear the person on the other end.

Maria (Maria), Thursday, 23 January 2003 19:02 (twenty-one years ago) link

i hate it when people ring me when i'm on a train or bus - i totally clam up and cold - put them off with my hostile manner. i just cant bear the thought of people i dont know thinking i'm an arrogant loud-mouthed idiot having the most vacuous irrelevant conversations on my phone while they find it impossible not to listen.

stevem (blueski), Thursday, 23 January 2003 19:12 (twenty-one years ago) link

yep i agree maria, i really dislike being talked to by someone else when i am on the phone but a note is fine. although, like eyeball kicks i absolutely hate other people lstening in to any conversations i have, and yes i will also pray for the privacy of the furthest teller in the bank. i dont see anything wrong or strange in that attitude, why on earth should i be happy for anyone else to hear my buiness / conversations? if anyone is around when i am on the phone i will walk out of the room, in order to have my conversation in private, thats why i bought a cord-free phone in the first place!! so stop following me OK!!

donna (donna), Thursday, 23 January 2003 19:14 (twenty-one years ago) link

four years pass...

wonder if he got over it?

That one guy that hit it and quit it, Friday, 13 July 2007 09:42 (sixteen years ago) link

We've all been there guys, right? Right?

Dom Passantino, Friday, 13 July 2007 09:43 (sixteen years ago) link

So have the girls.

I wouldn't say I hate talking on the phone, but I am still not really keen on doing it. Then again, when I was 15 years old, I would talk for HOURS on the phone with my friend.

nathalie, Friday, 13 July 2007 09:57 (sixteen years ago) link

two years pass...

I once had an 8 hour long phone conversation with my best friend when I was a teenager.

krakow, Tuesday, 24 November 2009 22:47 (fourteen years ago) link

But really I came here to wonder about how late is too late to phone someone you don't really know..? 10pm?

krakow, Tuesday, 24 November 2009 22:48 (fourteen years ago) link

xp Me too, actually. There were a couple of Friday nights we'd talk on the phone from like 7 PM to 3 AM. What's funny is that she lived like a block away (although obviously we wouldn't have been allowed to stay out that late).

Nuyorican oatmeal (jaymc), Tuesday, 24 November 2009 22:50 (fourteen years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0WeQJW-H3Y

Nuyorican oatmeal (jaymc), Tuesday, 24 November 2009 22:53 (fourteen years ago) link

Thanks! That was most helpful.

krakow, Tuesday, 24 November 2009 23:06 (fourteen years ago) link

I have realised recently that I find it impossible to speak on the telephone when there are others around me.

I have this, though I think to a lesser extent than Dog Latin. If I have the option I'll always walk into an empty room or outside when someone phones me.

Communi-Bear Silo State (chap), Tuesday, 24 November 2009 23:12 (fourteen years ago) link

For the record, just in case anyone ever wonders, my personal cut of time is midnight.

krakow, Tuesday, 24 November 2009 23:15 (fourteen years ago) link

*cut off

krakow, Tuesday, 24 November 2009 23:15 (fourteen years ago) link

two years pass...

How often do you use the phone socially these days?

manditory fun. day (Ówen P.), Monday, 2 July 2012 00:17 (eleven years ago) link

I have a pool of five or six friends with whom I can still have a +15 minute conversation. Everyone else is text, FB, e-mail, chat. I'll have maybe two social calls a week and I miss having more.

manditory fun. day (Ówen P.), Monday, 2 July 2012 00:19 (eleven years ago) link

i only got a contract last week that gives me monthly minutes, and i'm easing back into pretty much what you describe there tbh, two or three rambling calls a week with one of several friends

snoopsheepysheep (darraghmac), Monday, 2 July 2012 00:24 (eleven years ago) link

I usually talk to a brother or a sister or a parent for an hour or two every week. Sometimes call more than one up. I have one or two old friends who I'll talk to for an hour or more as well. I like keeping in touch. People in town I usually just talk to on the phone to arrange things.

chupacabra seeds (Abbbottt), Monday, 2 July 2012 00:28 (eleven years ago) link

See, most people in my social circle don't even answer the phone, and some give me grief when I call them about dinner plans instead of just texting.

Family is kind of a given, I think? I hope? It's weird to get texts from your mom

manditory fun. day (Ówen P.), Monday, 2 July 2012 00:30 (eleven years ago) link

I got the OBI 110 VOIP adapter thing for google voice, and I plugged a big princess phone into it, which imo is a million times better for long conversations. Plus then it's free. I have a pay as you go cell phone for shorter calls/emergencies/etc, and I have spent $80 between my two phones for the entire past year. OH YES I AM CHEAP

chupacabra seeds (Abbbottt), Monday, 2 July 2012 00:31 (eleven years ago) link

Texting is ok for basic arrangements but bad for actual conversations because it's got to be the least emotionally nuanced form of communication available.

chupacabra seeds (Abbbottt), Monday, 2 July 2012 00:33 (eleven years ago) link

yeah, i call my family on the phone. or they call me, i am bad at calling. family is a good fit for the phone; you are past a stage at which the fluency of the call can be read as a barometer of the state of your relationship. i used to hate the phone because it seemed like it didn't support entirely natural non-fluency features that happen in ordinary conversation; gaps are made awkward, reflection gets swapped out for space filling questions, just stupid what-are-you-doing-tomorrowisms. but now i like it better. maybe it's because everything pragmatic & organisational has been outsourced to e-mails & texts, so you know a phonecall's just gonna be shooting the shit. but i like them. its my favourite way to speak to a friend i'm real close to, now, because when the time is right, if we are both at home, we are both in a more relaxed & conversational mood than any other time we can get together.

so a lil bit. people are far away & i write a lot but it is the closest thing to actually relating to/interacting with someone, still, i think.

blossom smulch (schlump), Monday, 2 July 2012 00:34 (eleven years ago) link

Texting is ok for basic arrangements but bad for actual conversations because it's got to be the least emotionally nuanced form of communication available.

― chupacabra seeds (Abbbottt), Monday, 2 July 2012 01:33 (39 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i wish you could italicise but i still think texts are pretty great. just the size of them. just texting stupid shit to people, it's fine, you just have to scale down the thing it is you are relaying.

blossom smulch (schlump), Monday, 2 July 2012 00:36 (eleven years ago) link

/none of my blunt conversation requires any nuanced emotional reading

blossom smulch (schlump), Monday, 2 July 2012 00:37 (eleven years ago) link

I also have a little flip phone and stupid long nails so texting is hard.

chupacabra seeds (Abbbottt), Monday, 2 July 2012 00:39 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah I find the lack of tone in txts can be offputting - I will email a friend with something liek "oh crap change of plan" and just get "ok" as a reply... ok? Was that a blunt unhappy ok, are you just showing brevity, whaaaat.

Pureed Moods (Trayce), Monday, 2 July 2012 00:51 (eleven years ago) link

I mean i will txt, not email! gah.

Pureed Moods (Trayce), Monday, 2 July 2012 00:52 (eleven years ago) link

yeah I'm a noob at it too so I don't get, everything everyone says, are you supposed to say back 'ok' or 'lol' or 'cool' – even if imo it requires
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DisZ6qmNdbo

chupacabra seeds (Abbbottt), Monday, 2 July 2012 00:52 (eleven years ago) link

ok is just ok until i get any further info, this usually works well as an approach with texts

snoopsheepysheep (darraghmac), Monday, 2 July 2012 00:53 (eleven years ago) link

I like the rhythm of a good text conversation, same as a chat, really.

manditory fun. day (Ówen P.), Monday, 2 July 2012 13:15 (eleven years ago) link

I talk to my parents every other day or so and that's it really. I sort of hate talking on the phone these days which is a BIG change from how I felt about it years ago. I dislike it so much that I avoid calling friends because of it which is bad since nearly all of my closest ones live far away. I did talk to one yesterday for about 30 min and it wasn't too awful. Maybe this will inspire me to call a couple others.

(✿◠‿◠) (ENBB), Monday, 2 July 2012 13:56 (eleven years ago) link

Yes, I think cell phones are not the same experience as talking to an old friend or family member on a landline! I ditched my landline due to expense and lack of use. Reminiscing with your cousin about your dear departed auntie on this dinkie little thing that has video games and music on it is kind of depressing.

VBTS (tootie and the blowfish), Monday, 2 July 2012 14:38 (eleven years ago) link

i think i have forgotten what it's like to talk on a landline

obliquity of the ecliptic (rrrobyn), Monday, 2 July 2012 22:13 (eleven years ago) link

i talk to people on iphone and skype quite often

obliquity of the ecliptic (rrrobyn), Monday, 2 July 2012 22:14 (eleven years ago) link

I can happioly talk to my mum on the phone, but with most other people I'm not a fan - one or 2 friends aside. I have done phone support style jobs for a living for many years, and the reflexive, defensive "caller will be asshole" reaction always sits in my craw from years of abuse. It sucks. I kinda miss the days when phone was all there was, and I'd talk to my long distance bf on the phone for 2 hours and get in trouble cos my parents copped a $24 charge on the bill (that'd never cost so much now!)

Pureed Moods (Trayce), Monday, 2 July 2012 22:20 (eleven years ago) link

I don't mean to be morbid, but I had the displeasure of calling family members on a cell phone to tell them that someone died and the experience was less intimate for some reason. I mean to give them that news on the same device you used at the supermarket seems disrespectful.

But I'm not keeping a landline around just for sick relatives.

VBTS (tootie and the blowfish), Monday, 2 July 2012 22:32 (eleven years ago) link

that's interesting; i don't think of my iphone like that at all. in fact, i think of it as a reliable and helpful object/friend.

obliquity of the ecliptic (rrrobyn), Monday, 2 July 2012 22:48 (eleven years ago) link

friend with a busted grill

¥╡*ٍ*╞¥ (sic), Tuesday, 3 July 2012 00:35 (eleven years ago) link

:D

Pureed Moods (Trayce), Tuesday, 3 July 2012 00:39 (eleven years ago) link

no no i have a new 4S now!
oh but my busted buddy is still around but for international use only

obliquity of the ecliptic (rrrobyn), Tuesday, 3 July 2012 00:48 (eleven years ago) link

I got the OBI 110 VOIP adapter thing for google voice, and I plugged a big princess phone into it, which imo is a million times better for long conversations. Plus then it's free.

That's exactly what I'm doing! Right down to an actual Princess phone, one of those old indestrucible Bell System phones with a separate power cord to power the incandescent dial light. The even cheaper OBI 100 will do if you don't have an actual landline. Basically, buy a $44/£30 box and you'll have free home phone service with sound quality just as good as your old landline, talking on a landline phone of your choice, with calls transparently routed over the internet.

More info on OBi VoIP adapters

As much as I like texting and use it for about 75% of the things I used to make voice calls for, there are still some times when I prefer to talk.

Lee626, Tuesday, 3 July 2012 01:44 (eleven years ago) link

I have converted a couple of my friends to the OBI and we have an ongoing competition to find the coolest vintage phone. My friend has a fantastic red wall phone that her husband scored for her on a renovation job.

Also fun to grab a Google Voice number that spells something out (check it here). Google will let you search for words. I really wanted "cat face" but it wasn't an option. So that's how my friend and I greet each other on the phone, with the spellings of the phone numbers we picked out. "Hi, egg gunk." "Hi, tax furs."

chupacabra seeds (Abbbottt), Tuesday, 3 July 2012 01:52 (eleven years ago) link

lying on the floor talking on an old phone makes me feel like I'm in a Cindy Sherman fantasy land

http://www.popphoto.com/files/_images/201105/96.jpg

it's dreamy!

I mean it's disgusting to be nostalgic but I think a big chunky old phone is legitimately more nice for multiple-hour phone calls, my little flip phone heats up like crazy and you can't hold it under your shoulde
the Princess phone is just glamorous! and it costs nothing except the internet I'm already paying for

chupacabra seeds (Abbbottt), Tuesday, 3 July 2012 01:59 (eleven years ago) link

that does seem pretty awesome

obliquity of the ecliptic (rrrobyn), Tuesday, 3 July 2012 02:01 (eleven years ago) link

xp Kind of working in the opposite direction, I have a friend who has one of these retro handsets that plugs into an iPhone

http://data.whicdn.com/images/29934109/0.365x365_large.jpg

Lee626, Tuesday, 3 July 2012 02:04 (eleven years ago) link

Where did that come from?

chupacabra seeds (Abbbottt), Tuesday, 3 July 2012 02:04 (eleven years ago) link

I do great phone. I still have no trouble with hour-plus conversations. Don't get them often these days, alas.

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 3 July 2012 02:06 (eleven years ago) link

I still pay for a land line.

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 3 July 2012 02:06 (eleven years ago) link

Hahah Abb a friend of mine did the spelling thing with her phone number, it is [4 digit prefix] MALICE. So its so easy to remember!

Pureed Moods (Trayce), Tuesday, 3 July 2012 02:07 (eleven years ago) link

I have converted a couple of my friends to the OBI and we have an ongoing competition to find the coolest vintage phone.

http://image3.jcwstatics.com/sku/images/small/I_574365_SW_1.jpg

Lee626, Tuesday, 3 July 2012 02:21 (eleven years ago) link

such a phone would serve to remind me constantly of "Funny Farm," which I probably watched more times than any other movie as a kid

chupacabra seeds (Abbbottt), Tuesday, 3 July 2012 02:22 (eleven years ago) link

I associate long conversations with school days when it had more magic.

We had that exact floor in our kitchen!

Does anyone (in US) remember reading the phone book and seeing "teen line"?

My dad had the same phone number for forty two years! When he died I cut the line.

VBTS (tootie and the blowfish), Tuesday, 3 July 2012 02:24 (eleven years ago) link

http://data.whicdn.com/images/29934109/0.365x365_large.jpg

Lee626, Tuesday, 3 July 2012 02:28 (eleven years ago) link

That's a good idea, it is more comfortable if you are at home! I miss the cosmetic aspect of having a phone.

VBTS (tootie and the blowfish), Tuesday, 3 July 2012 02:30 (eleven years ago) link

I kind of want none of those. They are much nicer to hold. I would probably talk on the phone more.

(✿◠‿◠) (ENBB), Tuesday, 3 July 2012 02:31 (eleven years ago) link

Abbott the jar! In funny farm when he throws change into the jar to make it sound like a pay phone. Lol.

(✿◠‿◠) (ENBB), Tuesday, 3 July 2012 02:31 (eleven years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Found this at the thrift store today. It works a treat!

http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg38/scaled.php?server=38&filename=hollywoodo.jpg&res=landing

in charge of refreshments tonight is (Abbbottt), Monday, 23 July 2012 22:34 (eleven years ago) link

Thats so neat! I meant to say so on FB.

Today I was on the phone to one of our account managers and while obviously full in mid-conversation, one of my bosses walked up to me, holding out 2 bowls of chocs/sweets, and just... stood there. I waved her away in that "no thanks, and im on the phone ffs" way but she didnt move, til I looked up and realised she wasnt actually looking at me, she was shoving these lollies in my face while *talking to someone else* :|

Gah!

Last personal phone convo I had was about a week ago. First and sadly, possibly last time I will speak to said person on the phone. Wasn't the best chat :(

Pureed Moods (Trayce), Tuesday, 24 July 2012 10:10 (eleven years ago) link

one year passes...

I used FaceTime for the first time today and it was really alarming/distracting/unpleasant to see my own face while I was having a conversation. I know you're supposed to look at the other person, but that used to be the only option; now it's one of two options, in addition to looking at something else. Weeeeird.

mambo jumbo (La Lechera), Sunday, 26 January 2014 23:04 (ten years ago) link

i did like seeing the face of the person i was talking to though! that part was alright.

mambo jumbo (La Lechera), Sunday, 26 January 2014 23:05 (ten years ago) link

ten years pass...

Hi! OK, we've had a decade of phone evolution since this thread was last revived. Curious how everyone's habits have or haven't changed. I'd say 10 years ago I was already well down the line toward preferring texting to talking for most things, and that has only become more true. However! I also continue to appreciate the value of an actual conversation for particular purposes: one, catching up with family or friends who I don't see or interact with all that much; two, sorting out complicated details of plans that are too annoying to go through rounds of texting over; three, lots of work related things, obviously including interviews. (Although some number of those I now use Zoom for.)

But also, I have increasingly found that I prefer having the phone on speaker to holding it up to my ear — frees up hands for other things, I can have a conversation while making dinner or looking things up online or whatever, and my arm doesn't get tired or my ear hot and sweaty. Of course, that's only practical when I'm by myself somewhere, because I do not want to be the obnoxious person broadcasting my whole conversation to whoever's around.

So, what are your habits? What do you use phone calls for vs. texts, emails or Zooms? Do you FaceTime? Do you use speaker? What's up, Alexander Graham?

Like 99% of my vocal conversations using the phone are on voice notes, the others are with my dentist or my pharmacist or my hairdresser etc

Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Wednesday, 1 May 2024 21:55 (two weeks ago) link

Voice notes are so Irish-coded

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Wednesday, 1 May 2024 22:05 (two weeks ago) link

But also, I have increasingly found that I prefer having the phone on speaker to holding it up to my ear

With you on the practicality of this in theory but it irritates me I'm talking to someone and can hear them doing other stuff and/or becoming distant from phone at times.

Kim Kimberly, Wednesday, 1 May 2024 22:05 (two weeks ago) link

irritates me *when

Kim Kimberly, Wednesday, 1 May 2024 22:07 (two weeks ago) link

I apologize ahead of time, like "I'm just making a salad" or whatever. I wouldn't do something like dishes, where the noise would be especially intrusive.

There's also the option of earbuds, which my wife uses when she's on the phone, but I've always found irritating for some reason.

I miss what it was like to have a conversation OTP before Facetime, video chat, etc when we were all privy to multitasking without making our phone mate feel like we aren't paying attention

stwahberrymilkgirlll, Wednesday, 1 May 2024 22:26 (two weeks ago) link

I like talking on the phone with people I like… I think video chat is super awkward, and will generally only do it for work if the client wants it or if i need to screenshare. Basically 99% of everyone looks awkward on video chat/facetime.

I actually like phone on speaker because in my brain it simulates the acoustics of an in person conversation? Maybe that’s just my weirdness… idk

sarahell, Wednesday, 1 May 2024 23:22 (two weeks ago) link

Voice notes are so Irish-coded


otm, political scandals and everything

https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/bertie-ahern-rubbishes-tinder-profile-whatsapp-hoax/37746118.html

Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Wednesday, 1 May 2024 23:29 (two weeks ago) link


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