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Do you ever think about having children, are you close to that position yet, does it excite or scare you (and like me have you chosen there names)?

― james (james), Tuesday, 28 January 2003 14:44 (twenty-two years ago)

Freaky, this has been playing on my mind since the best mate got knocked up....

― smee (smee), Tuesday, 28 January 2003 14:47 (twenty-two years ago)

Me and Emma choose names every day! It's so great! Our kids are to be called;

Boys;
Robert = Bert for short
Richard = Rocky for short

Girls;
Bullwinkle = Bullwinkle for short (Emma doesn't like this one)
Um, I forget the other one, but it was a real name and it was sweet. Rocky and Bert are definitely the best names evah for two brothers though, at any stage in their lives.

― Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Tuesday, 28 January 2003 14:48 (twenty-two years ago)

Sometimes I think it would be nice, but then I spend time with my nephew; he is basically Damian from the Omen, and the thought loses all charm.

― Nicole (Nicole), Tuesday, 28 January 2003 14:49 (twenty-two years ago)

Rocky is NOT an acceptable shortening of Richard.

― RickyT (RickyT), Tuesday, 28 January 2003 14:51 (twenty-two years ago)

How about Chardy?

― Nicole (Nicole), Tuesday, 28 January 2003 14:51 (twenty-two years ago)

Tis now, RockyT

― smee (smee), Tuesday, 28 January 2003 14:52 (twenty-two years ago)

I asked for that one, didn't I?

― ChardyT (RickyT), Tuesday, 28 January 2003 14:53 (twenty-two years ago)

every woman I know is pregnant these days, so the subject of children is on my mind a lot. I'm thinking about the subject in both a "cute babies" kind of way, and also in terms of the tiresome logistics surrounding the upbringing of children.

do you reckon when children reach the age of ten or eleven they abruptly become annoying, and you wish you hadn't bothered?

― DV (dirtyvicar), Tuesday, 28 January 2003 14:56 (twenty-two years ago)

A friend of ours has a daughter who's just turned eleven; our friend sez "Thank God, we can finally have a conversation like human beings."

― Colin Meeder (Mert), Tuesday, 28 January 2003 14:58 (twenty-two years ago)

My fiances kids are like 7 & 8, I reckon he's has had it quite easy up to now coz they are well behaved and cute and all that, so he's totally up for having more. I think I should drop a sprog sharpish before they hit their teens and he decides never again!

― smee (smee), Tuesday, 28 January 2003 14:59 (twenty-two years ago)

drop a sprog

Social Workers to thread.

― Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Tuesday, 28 January 2003 15:02 (twenty-two years ago)

I don't think that I'd be a suitable parent just yet, and I'm certainly not ready for the whole 'life-change' shock that having a child would create. Maybe in another 5 years or so, at least

― Fuzzy (Fuzzy), Tuesday, 28 January 2003 15:05 (twenty-two years ago)

Robert is an excellent boy's name.

― robster (robster), Tuesday, 28 January 2003 15:07 (twenty-two years ago)

Algernon is better.

― Lara (Lara), Tuesday, 28 January 2003 15:08 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeah little Algernon would get on very well in Dublin

― Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 28 January 2003 15:09 (twenty-two years ago)

*nods head in agreement*

― Lara (Lara), Tuesday, 28 January 2003 15:10 (twenty-two years ago)

We did the book "Flowers for Algernon" at school so the name Algernon makes me think of sadness.

― smee (smee), Tuesday, 28 January 2003 15:16 (twenty-two years ago)

My little Algernon will be the most loved boy in all thew world, he will have affection heaped upon him and he will not know the meaning of sadness until he is old enough to cope with it.

― Lara (Lara), Tuesday, 28 January 2003 15:19 (twenty-two years ago)

Awww that is so sweet....does anyone have a bucket handy?

― smee (smee), Tuesday, 28 January 2003 15:20 (twenty-two years ago)

thew = the

― Lara (Lara), Tuesday, 28 January 2003 15:21 (twenty-two years ago)

Lara is intent on raising Prince Gautama.

Children -- wonderful to visit when they are friends' kids. Then they go home and I don't have to worry about them.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 28 January 2003 15:27 (twenty-two years ago)

I know I want to have children but not for ages, I know some girls who say they never want to have a children, quite a few actually, I suspect they are lying though.

― Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 28 January 2003 15:29 (twenty-two years ago)

I used to say I didn't want to have children and I really meant it, I've never had any maternal instincts AT ALL, I used to avoid babies and children at all costs - then I fell in love and went all mushy, my friends still can't believe the change in me!

― smee (smee), Tuesday, 28 January 2003 15:33 (twenty-two years ago)

Ned = totally OTM. Usurp others' young. Then go home.

― Nick A. (Nick A.), Tuesday, 28 January 2003 15:35 (twenty-two years ago)

Isabel has always wanted kids. I only decided I did quite recently. I think we'll still wait a few years but I should think I'll be a father within five years or so. Typing it out makes it seem more frightening suddenly!

― Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 28 January 2003 15:36 (twenty-two years ago)

Ned = totally OTM. Usurp others' young. Then go home.

Gary Glitter NOT to thread.

― Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Tuesday, 28 January 2003 15:38 (twenty-two years ago)

Big Poppa Ewing. Oh yes.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 28 January 2003 15:40 (twenty-two years ago)

Am I the only parent on ILE? Wowwee Zowwee!

I've got a son, he turns four in May. He's the shit!

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Tuesday, 28 January 2003 15:42 (twenty-two years ago)

ILE parents checklist: Gale (sadly missed), Dr C., David Huntsman, Omar (where oh where) - any others?

There has not yet been an "ILE Baby" though.

― Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 28 January 2003 15:45 (twenty-two years ago)

Or so the overlord moderators/12 ft lizards constantly would have us believe

― Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 28 January 2003 15:47 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh. My. God.

(Um, ILE babies - my friend Mary lurks [she introduced me to here], and she had her second baby only t'other night! Yay Mary!)

― Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Tuesday, 28 January 2003 15:47 (twenty-two years ago)

ILE Baby? Like Tom and Clare's BB baby?

Are there many ILE couples in the first place?

― Lara (Lara), Tuesday, 28 January 2003 15:47 (twenty-two years ago)

Donna has a ickle son, doesn't she?

― smee (smee), Tuesday, 28 January 2003 15:48 (twenty-two years ago)

We will be timing you Tom! I think I might have committed myself to having kids 'at 30' during a sleepy conversation last night - I have always thought that sounded about right, but now that it's only a few years away... GULP!

― Archel (Archel), Tuesday, 28 January 2003 15:49 (twenty-two years ago)

nickalicious -- you're not alone
(i was just gonna wonder, inna virtual-verbose manner, 'why the hell don't any moms and pos care to post?', etcetcetcetcetc)

my son'll by 19 in may, and daugter is 15

― t\'\'t (t\'\'t), Tuesday, 28 January 2003 15:51 (twenty-two years ago)

My working definition of an ILE Baby - baby whose parents are posters on ILE and who met because of ILE.

― Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 28 January 2003 15:52 (twenty-two years ago)

Ooooo we could have a "Name the ILE baby thread"!

― smee (smee), Tuesday, 28 January 2003 15:53 (twenty-two years ago)

Do these things happen?

Euch! Everything is icky!

― Lara (Lara), Tuesday, 28 January 2003 15:53 (twenty-two years ago)

Referring to Tom's baby rather than smee's thread.

― Lara (Lara), Tuesday, 28 January 2003 15:53 (twenty-two years ago)

Lara - there are a few ILE Couples, past and present. So it's not inconceivable that there will one day be an ILE Baby. Not inevitable either, of course.

― Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 28 January 2003 15:55 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeah that's kind of creepy, we'll have to have a group marriage to make it seem less so.

― Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 28 January 2003 15:55 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm another one.

Best not to plan it. Much better to have completely life-changing experiences creep up on you by surprise. In my experience, anyway.

I don't reckon we would have ever had kids if we'd had to sit down and decide one day to do it. Random contraceptive carelessness lets fate work it all out for you.

But I'm very happy with parenthood, despite always thinking I'd never have them.

As for names, my son's called Dylan. Inspired by Mr Moran rather than Bob (my girlfriend can't stand him even if I'm a fan) while watching 'Black Books' one night.

― James Ball (James Ball), Tuesday, 28 January 2003 16:04 (twenty-two years ago)

Moran instead of McKay? For shame!

― Nicole (Nicole), Tuesday, 28 January 2003 16:05 (twenty-two years ago)

We could just genetically splice together bits and pieces of all the ILXers into one 21st Century Uber-Child.

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Tuesday, 28 January 2003 16:05 (twenty-two years ago)

*shudder*

― smee (smee), Tuesday, 28 January 2003 16:05 (twenty-two years ago)

I feel sick.

― Lara (Lara), Tuesday, 28 January 2003 16:06 (twenty-two years ago)

Can you imagine the DanandNed child? I can, but I don't want to. I think Momumel and Kate should have a child though, it would be most interesting.

― Nicole (Nicole), Tuesday, 28 January 2003 16:07 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh yeah, the life-changing-oopsy!-give-you-a-fresh-perspective-on-life thing is one of my favorite aspects of my surprise parenthood. Like Bob Ross used to say "we don't make mistakes, we have happy accidents".

Naming your kids is hella-fun, I might add. As long as at least one of the parents (in my case, it wasn't me) has some common sense...I mean, you don't want the poor kid going through life with a middle name like "Pharaoh" or "Ferdinand", y'know?

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Tuesday, 28 January 2003 16:09 (twenty-two years ago)

If I were any less maternal I'd be preemptively arrested for child neglect. I'd rather be an aunt. (However, my sister feels the same way.)

― j.lu (j.lu), Tuesday, 28 January 2003 16:11 (twenty-two years ago)

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I always said we'd stop at two kids, "we've replaced ourselves," "we're two for two so far," etc. Lately, though, we've gone into negotiations about #3. I may in fact be insane.

― Neudonym, Sunday, 15 June 2003 11:13 (twenty-two years ago)

I can testify that it has not gone away at all by age 44. I've given up expecting it to.

It's interesting -- in the interview section of that new Cure DVD, Mr. Smith notes his own age (he's also 44 or on the verge of it) and similarly reflects, using slightly different language, on that feeling, noting among other things that the term 'teenage angst' is used to trivialize emotions that need not necessarily or automatically disappear with age, though society would prefer that it did.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 15 June 2003 12:38 (twenty-two years ago)

Why should society care about some angsty pensioners?

― N. (nickdastoor), Sunday, 15 June 2003 13:03 (twenty-two years ago)

You'll know when you're 80. ;-)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 15 June 2003 13:06 (twenty-two years ago)

i have no desire to have children. there are so many reasons for this.
1) how do you do it right? i have alot of ideas about raising children correctly, but most of them conflict with each other: eg if i were to have children, i would want to be the primary caregiver, and yet i also think that men need to take responsibility for their offspring as much as women tend to.
2) how the hell do women raise boys, let alone girls?
3) how do parents cope with rebellion?
4) there are enough people in the world already. (not that one needs to procreate to have children, i'm sure there are plenty of kids out there needing parentage)
5) i've been there and done that, in a way. i spent 7 years helping my mum raise my little brother (yes and even though my father isn't of the absent variety i did a helluva lot more childraising than he did) and it was wonderful but now i've had my fill of maternaldom.
6) i doubt i will ever have the time for it. my life is very full already.
7) i have enough trouble looking after myself, let alone someone else.

i've been told that i am exactly the kind of person who should breed, cos i am "good" and "smart" and all that. while i appreciate the compliment and it makes me feel very moral and all, i think women have to deal with enough normalising-to-have-children stuff already, no?

― di smith (lucylurex), Monday, 16 June 2003 02:16 (twenty-two years ago)

Leading on a bit from Di's last comment, I've felt some odd pressure here and there -- not from my family or friends or anything, more this weird free-floating thing -- for the idea that I should have kids because I'd make 'a good father' or something. More and more, though, I just hum "I'm the End of the Family Line" by Moz.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 16 June 2003 02:26 (twenty-two years ago)

seeing my older siblings approaching their 50s childless and still really getting big kicks out of life just cements my resolve to never breed.

― electric sound of jim (electricsound), Monday, 16 June 2003 02:28 (twenty-two years ago)

i'd like kids, 2 or 3

― minna (minna), Monday, 16 June 2003 02:33 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm uncomfortable around children and think I would make a terrible parent. That said, I also find myself thinking more and more that I need to leave behind some kind of genetic/parental legacy, and I feel that many of my friends should reconsider and think about doing the same. To be an asshole about it, I know far too many idiots and losers who are breeding left and right while all the 'cool' couples I know plan on never having children - I can't help thinking this bodes ill for the human race, if only because it seems like diversity might be taking a nosedive.

F'rinstance I know of way too many delinquent dads - the idea that these scumbags' fucked-up DNA is getting passed on while mine isn't is a little disturbing when you think about the long term implications for human evolution, especially if you assume that such asinine behavior is possibly influenced by genetics...

― Millar (Millar), Monday, 16 June 2003 04:45 (twenty-two years ago)

documentary on gay dads tonight:
thots:

1) are they aping breeders
b) is this a bad thing
2) gay adoptions are fast becoming illegal in many states-so homophobes think we are debauched decadents, until we prove that we want to be married and have kids-and we arent allowed to have any. if you are going to hate us be consistent.
3) white gay men often raise black kids, what are the cultrual implications of this-the two least likely to be wanting finding each other ?
4) one couple disparaged non-kid having fags by talking about seeing galleries with a man at 80, attending the same openings-thats all i want though.

― anthony easton (anthony), Monday, 16 June 2003 06:36 (twenty-two years ago)

I am increasingly of the opinion that many (not all but many I've known) men would happily go without kids, its just they end up in committed relationships where by accident, design or coercion they become fathers.

Terrible as it sounds I suspect thats my dad's view (and my dad loves us very much I must stress). Ive known guys express suprise and relief when I state my desire for no kids.

In fact it was only once an issue for me - finally relenting to marry someone a year ago, and having to come to terms with the fact he wanted kids badly, I didnt, and he was prepared to marry me anyhow.

Well that never ended up happening but yeah, it was sobering to thnk about.

― Trayce (trayce), Monday, 16 June 2003 07:00 (twenty-two years ago)

I have to say I cannot wait to have kids. The sooner the better. I would however like to be married first, which I am hoping will work out. I had a 'scare' as such in January which led to the agonising waiting for a test to develop. Sadly it was negative & I was devastated. It took me a while to get over it, but fortunately it was a positive thing whichever the result. It made us realise how much we wanted kids. I am hoping for a boy first (although aslong as the baby is healthy I do not mind) & he will be called Rudy. I have ideas about how I will bring my children up, who knows if you will be a good parent. I will do my best & I am pretty sure that will be good enough.

― Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Monday, 16 June 2003 08:14 (twenty-two years ago)

five months pass...

yesterday evening we had lee perry on the stereo. my two year old stood up in his high chair and started punching his fist up into the air, yelling "FIYAH!... THUNDAH!... LIGHTNIN'!"
he had a little trouble with BRIMSTONE though: he only has a limited vocabulary.

― gaz (gaz), Monday, 1 December 2003 01:55 (twenty-one years ago)

two months pass...

I didn't share this with you guys when it happened, but two weeks ago we had a baby boy. He's great and was long awaited.

I've distinctly noted one change with me, other than fatigue. It is an insane increase in the amount of emotionality I have wrt to hearing about kids. Last week I read about an 8 week old that had been beaten death. The kid had partially healed severe burns on his feet and multiple fractures in his limbs. Of course, this would affect anyone, but I just cried and cried. I could only think of it in terms of my baby. Just now I read about Pantani's mom saying goodbye to him at his funeral:

Amid the tears, Mamma Tonina Pantani hugged Marco's coffin and poignantly wished her son farewell on his final journey, saying "goodbye, goodbye, goodbye Marco, goodbye baby, goodbye beautiful boy."

I had to leave the library, I was nearly totally melting down. I don't mean to sound "look how sensitive Hunter is." I wonder if any other parents have experienced this?

― Hunter (Hunter), Thursday, 19 February 2004 01:59 (twenty-one years ago)

I have. Happens all the time.

Congratulations!

― luna (luna.c), Thursday, 19 February 2004 02:01 (twenty-one years ago)

I used to be so emotionally in-charge, and nowadays seeing harm befall children tears at my heart strings and puts the urge to kill into me where no urge to kill previously existed.

And on a lighter note, my baby's momma's best friend from back in the day just had her little baby girl this weekend, I just got word. I always get so excited when someone else has a new one; especially what with this one being a girl (in my circle of family & friends, I know of at least 8 boys and 0 girls who have been spawned in the past 6 years...yay for a girl FINALLY up in the mix!).

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Thursday, 19 February 2004 16:41 (twenty-one years ago)

Yay new babies!

My cousin's wife had twin boys on Valentine's Day.

― tokyo rosemary (rosemary), Thursday, 19 February 2004 16:59 (twenty-one years ago)

My aunt & uncle, both 42, with kids of 15 and 11 have just had the news that they are expecting again. They are still reeling from the shock, I can't wait!

― Rumpy Pumpkin (rumpypumpkin), Thursday, 19 February 2004 17:23 (twenty-one years ago)

ten months pass...

I can't stand children. No, seriously. It's one of those things I've had to accept about myself. I'm not especially proud of it, or comfortable with it, or amazed by it. I simply cannot be around children for any length of time at all, ever. I mean, they're so stupid. They listen to crap music and watch the worst sorts of movies. Even their tastes in video games are questionable. They don't know squat about food, let alone how to make a decent meal. They read really crap books, if they read books at all (though to be fair, that's also true of the adult population). They cannot be conversed with in any meaningful way, cannot hold their liquor, get really weird on weed, and are intolerable on acid. They have real trouble controlling their emotions even when sober, and no trouble at all controlling the emotions of those around them, which if you ask me is way too much power to hand someone who, as I established earlier, is stupid. They get paid way too much attention to in general, I think, and should be alternately ignored and beaten, like in pre-war America. Children should understand from the get-go that they have nothing useful to offer the world, at least not until they learn to offer something useful. The sense of entitlement among children is appalling. But that's not what really bothers me -- what really bothers me is just children. They're totally un-self-conscious in a way that's not half as endearing as people seem to think (usually, it just means they're embarrassing to dine with), and not at all the kind of cute I'm interested in.

Cats are better.

― Pears can just fuck right off. (kenan), Friday, 14 January 2005 20:36 (twenty years ago)

http://cube.smedia.co.uk/downloads/pictures/ssbm/kirby.jpg

― TOMBOT, Friday, 14 January 2005 20:39 (twenty years ago)

Kenan, you really wouldn't like me.

― .adam (nordicskilla), Friday, 14 January 2005 20:40 (twenty years ago)

but I already like you!

― Pears can just fuck right off. (kenan), Friday, 14 January 2005 20:41 (twenty years ago)

Well, I'm out.

― Haibun (Begs2Differ), Friday, 14 January 2005 20:43 (twenty years ago)

http://g.myspace.com/00047/44/31/47211344_l.jpg
DON'T MESS WITH TEXAS

― Lukas Alicious (nickalicious), Friday, 14 January 2005 20:44 (twenty years ago)

okay, that's adorable.

― Pears can just fuck right off. (kenan), Friday, 14 January 2005 20:45 (twenty years ago)

See, I think adults are fucking assholes: self-obsessed, pretending to be "mature" when all they really want to do is hump and shit and buy new shit, reading and listening to music instead of connecting with other humans, going around their polluted-ass cities or bumpkin-ass towns being prejudiced pigs and killing each other...fuck that.

― Haibun (Begs2Differ), Friday, 14 January 2005 20:45 (twenty years ago)

Oh, Nick. He's been brainwashed.

― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Friday, 14 January 2005 20:47 (twenty years ago)

Kenan, you're forgetting how tender and succulent they are.

― Michael White (Hereward), Friday, 14 January 2005 20:48 (twenty years ago)

Self-entitled - check
Bad taste in video games - check
Not as cute as should be/thinks he is - check

This is me!

I hung out with kids at xmas and they all thought I was the coolest person in the world by the end of the day. Anyone that feeds my ego that much is fine by me!

― .adam (nordicskilla), Friday, 14 January 2005 20:49 (twenty years ago)

Cats can hold their liquor much better than children, it's true.

I don't feel as strongly as Keenan, but I'm still not having any children.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 14 January 2005 20:50 (twenty years ago)

self-obsessed, pretending to be "mature" when all they really want to do is hump and shit and buy new shit, reading and listening to music instead of connecting with other humans, going around their polluted-ass cities or bumpkin-ass towns being prejudiced pigs and killing each other

Hm... *checks list*

Me... me... me.... me... me... but I've never killed anyone. I did dream the other night though that I randomly picked off some people in a crowd, and woke up TERRIFIED that I'd get caught, even though I knew there was no evidence.

― Pears can just fuck right off. (kenan), Friday, 14 January 2005 20:51 (twenty years ago)

I just caught on that that's nickalicious's son. He really is adorable. I used to be that cute, until I got all ugly inside.

― Pears can just fuck right off. (kenan), Friday, 14 January 2005 20:53 (twenty years ago)

OMG i have that dream a lot, except it's always a revenge killing of someone I know instead of a random thing

Kenan I am sorry that we will never be friends since we seem to hate each other in the abstract. I like you in person though!

― Haibun (Begs2Differ), Friday, 14 January 2005 20:53 (twenty years ago)

I don't feel as strongly as Keenan

(neither do I)

― Pears can just fuck right off. (kenan), Friday, 14 January 2005 20:56 (twenty years ago)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v240/lunacee/boointhepool.jpg

― luna (luna.c), Friday, 14 January 2005 21:24 (twenty years ago)

okay, maybe I don't hate children. Maybe I just had a really starchy lunch and not enough nicotine.

― Pears can just fuck right off. (kenan), Friday, 14 January 2005 21:44 (twenty years ago)

oops, wrong thread... sorry.

― luna (luna.c), Friday, 14 January 2005 21:46 (twenty years ago)

it seemed perfectly in context to me.

― Pears can just fuck right off. (kenan), Friday, 14 January 2005 21:47 (twenty years ago)

I like my friends' kids just fine.

― Michael White (Hereward), Friday, 14 January 2005 22:00 (twenty years ago)

I think I'm child-phobic. I'm very uncomfortable even being around toddlers and infants, being expected to interact with them at family gatherings is torture. Once they hit 9 or 10 I'm OK, but when they're young and wild I want nothing to do with them.

― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Friday, 14 January 2005 22:14 (twenty years ago)

Me and my soon-to-be-housemate girlfriend have agreed that we don't want babies, ever.
There are more than enough of them in the world already, and we're not willing to make the obligatory sacrifices that one must make as part of parenthood.

― Tantrum The Cat (Tantrum The Cat), Friday, 14 January 2005 23:22 (twenty years ago)

Oh Kenan, have a heart.

― jill schoelen is the queen of my dreams! (Homosexual II), Friday, 14 January 2005 23:26 (twenty years ago)

four years pass...

they're horrible

― tuppence b. bag (roxymuzak), Saturday, 25 April 2009 00:50 (sixteen years ago)

pretty much, yeah

― WmC, Saturday, 25 April 2009 00:56 (sixteen years ago)

yeah

― barfy (harbl), Saturday, 25 April 2009 00:57 (sixteen years ago)

do not want

― ciara1985 (circa1916), Saturday, 25 April 2009 00:57 (sixteen years ago)

four years pass...

I don't think children are horrible, but I don't know how to interact with them. How do I learn??

― ḉrut (crüt), Wednesday, 22 May 2013 00:30 (twelve years ago)

make practice children out of paper mache and carry them around with you

― controversial vegan pregnancy (contenderizer), Wednesday, 22 May 2013 00:34 (twelve years ago)

I have good success treating them like small adults (don't curse or offer them liquor, though). Ask them questions about themselves, show interest in their hobbies, agree to play Transformers if they ask.

― carl agatha, Wednesday, 22 May 2013 00:34 (twelve years ago)

I've distinctly noted one change with me, other than fatigue. It is an insane increase in the amount of emotionality I have wrt to hearing about kids.

Me too, fwiw.

― Guayaquil (eephus!), Wednesday, 22 May 2013 02:15 (twelve years ago)

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