Well, we now know something else went boom. But is the article totally wrong about the way the world is going? Was that optimism a blip, or is the current bust-cycle of war, insecurity and terror the blip? And are you nostalgic for the 90s, when 'the world wasn't such a dangerous place' and 'irrational exuberance' was the order of the day?
― Momus (Momus), Thursday, 6 February 2003 17:22 (twenty-three years ago)
http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/5.07/longboom_pr.html
Wired Magazine: The Long Boom.
― Momus (Momus), Thursday, 6 February 2003 17:24 (twenty-three years ago)
Dangerous to make a claim like this depending on where you were at -- I doubt many Rwandans are nostalgic for 1994, or anyone in Yugoslavia for most of the whole decade.
But speaking from a well-off-enough American context, sure was nice to not have the Cold War around.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 6 February 2003 17:28 (twenty-three years ago)
― Oops (Oops), Thursday, 6 February 2003 17:29 (twenty-three years ago)
Apparently just before a stock crash people start going on about how technology or something has led to a new paradigm of permanent economic expansion and rising stock prices.
― DV (dirtyvicar), Thursday, 6 February 2003 17:32 (twenty-three years ago)
― Aaron Grossman (aajjgg), Thursday, 6 February 2003 17:37 (twenty-three years ago)
'Will a rise in terrorism cause the world to pull back in constant fear?'
and
'The Middle East, meanwhile, enters crisis. Two main factors drive the region's problems. One, the fundamentalist Muslim mind-set is particularly unsuited to the fluid demands of the digital age. The new economy rewards experimentation, constant innovation, and challenging the status quo - these attributes, however, are shunned in many countries throughout the Middle East. Many actually get more traditional in response to the furious pace of change. The other factor driving the crisis is outside their control. The advent of hydrogen power clearly undermines the centrality of oil in the world economy. By 2008, with the auto industry in a mad dash to convert, the bottom falls out of the oil market. The Middle Eastern crisis comes to a head. Some of the old monarchies and religious regimes begin to topple.'
...or were they pushed?
― Momus (Momus), Thursday, 6 February 2003 17:41 (twenty-three years ago)
Nice to see lots of jobs as spies, baggage checkers, Arabic translators etc, bucking the trend.
― Momus (Momus), Thursday, 6 February 2003 17:48 (twenty-three years ago)
― Bryan (Bryan), Thursday, 6 February 2003 17:50 (twenty-three years ago)
― Bryan (Bryan), Thursday, 6 February 2003 17:52 (twenty-three years ago)
― Lynskey (Lynskey), Thursday, 6 February 2003 19:08 (twenty-three years ago)
― nabisco (nabisco), Thursday, 6 February 2003 19:19 (twenty-three years ago)
For example, the Florida land boom of the mid-1920s was based on the idea that wealthy New Yorkers and other northerners would use Florida as a vacation spot and retirement paradise, completely transforming the state's economy. That idea was totally OTM.
What happened was that this totally sound idea was planted in the minds of hundreds of thousands of investors who began to bid up prices on prime land in a short period of time. As the same pieces of land changed hands several times, each time for a more-inflated price, the speculation began to take on a life of its own. It looked like all you had to do to make a fortune overnight was to "buy some land in Florida" and sell it again a few months later. After all, thousands upon thousands of people had done so, and that proved it.
As a result, a lot of hapless suckers bought a lot of swampland for a lot of money. Some of them even hit it rich by buying and selling totally worthless land. Some of the lucky ones were utterly clueless, too. In a bubble, you don't have to have a clue to make money. Or to lose it. Easy money is so addictive that few investors will get out of a bubble market, including the 'smart' ones. But the bottom has to drop out some time.
When that happens, if the bubble was big enough, the whole economy suffers. See the Great Depression. The problem is that bubbles inspire tons of misinvestment and outright fraud. If a society spends enough of its resources on useless, unwise or unnecessary junk, then a lot of it will have to be abandoned later on. It can be almost as destructive as a war.
― Aimless, Thursday, 6 February 2003 19:49 (twenty-three years ago)
The nineties were great. I was rich, and had a lustrous head of non-graying hair.
― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Thursday, 6 February 2003 19:52 (twenty-three years ago)
I think there's a kind of beauty in the peak of the FTSE (and Dow Jones I think) being on the 31st Dec 1999. Actually, it might have been the 30th, but still.
― N. (nickdastoor), Thursday, 6 February 2003 21:31 (twenty-three years ago)
decrease in dna sequencing costincrease in human genes mapped per yearincrease in genomes sequenced per yearincrease in ramincrease of magnetic data storage capacitiesdecrease in isp cost for higher performancedecrease in modem cost for higher performanceincrease in internet backbone bandwidthincrease in fastest possible data transmission speedincrease in the growth of the internetdecrease in the price for higher performance of wireless devicesdecrease in transistor sizedecrease in costs of brain scandecrease in size of computersdecrease of the size of mechanical devicesincrease in parecon-like businesses (ok, this one is a fake)increase in u.s. patents grantedincrease in u.s. education expendituresincrease in human life expectancy
there is no bubble bust there. such an abundance of richness can't but help to decrease disease and poverty around the world isn'it?
On the state of "inclusive and ethical global trade" it looks like the friggin libertarians are otm for all I know.
to end the environmental problems we don't need less technology we need smarter technology.
Right now is where it's at and looking at exponential growth trends, it is a safe bet to say that tomorrow is going to be even better. (note to self: don't make it an excuse to slack off).
― the hegemon, Friday, 7 February 2003 05:55 (twenty-three years ago)