Kate Winslet where have you gone you gorgeous squeezy thing

Men are wishing a woman hadn't lost weight and other women are complaining about this?

Sheesh, make up yr minds, you silly bitches.

It's women like Kate who complain about their "cauliflower bums" and do these nutty diets and obsess over that last pound who are largely responsible for the plague of anorexia/bulimia in our society, many of whose victims have been my close friends. Men are most certainly confused asswipes much of the time, but one said to me once, "Men want a skinny woman on their arm and a botticeli-esque one in bed" and I think that's true. And it should be seen as admirable of Sam and other males here who have decided to speak out against this double standard. Besides, Kate was hardly unhealthy looking before. I haven't seen her post-diet, but the fact that a big deal is being made of it in the media makes me :-(.

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Winslet? Like a rat up a drainpipe, before the diet or after, but then I'm famously non-fussy.

Often when queried anorexics will cite the body image thin as a reason, however this is an obvious smokescreen to avoid the underlying issues at hand.

Dave - anoxeria is a "developed world" disease because people tend to to die of other things first in the rest of the world. People cut themselves the world over.

How do you explain Barbara Bush, then? :-)

The media doesn't cause anorexia/bulimia. Kate Winslet losing baby fat doesn't cause it either. No psychologist worth ten bucks would go into that theory, and no recovered eating disorder patient would either. It's only people who have never been there and never will be there who claim such a thing, and it's just wrong. Think of it this way - if the media caused eating disorders, wouldn't we stop starving and vomiting once we reached Kate Moss's weight? Why go to the point of social unacceptability?

The only way I will allow the media any responsibility is this: most eating disorder patients I know gained "better" skills at starving and vomiting and similar behavioral patterns via the media, i.e. all those anti-thinness/disorder articles and tv segments that talk about how horrible this is while giving DETAILED AND EXACT DESCRIPTIONS of what these people did to control their intake. Bright idea, that. But that doesn't cause anything other than greater knowledge of how to kill yourself - if it wasn't doing this, it'd be something else that people with disordered behavior would find to hurt themselves. It's not about how you look, it's about how you feel.

and once upon a time, being pale and well-fed were valued by the aristocratic types who could afford to sit around indoors not developing callouses. oh, for a return to the days when tan/scrawny/"fit" meant you were a peasant laborer, not a "hottie".

i think she should've stayed fleshy; but then, didn't she cut off her hair and bleache what was left? is she trying to turn me off enough to keep me from stalking her?

Ronan: Well, that'd be one way to make Oprah bearable these days, at least.

Agreed, which is a huge problem these days. EVERY skinny girl is referred to as anorexic. And, quite frankly, this thread is indicitive of that train of thought.

I am intrigued though - what are you busting out laughing about, I didn't follow that post.

This was the cause of my metaphorical laughter, that all the influence the media had was to help people improve their vomiting technique.

Come on people! This is not an either/or issue! Anorexia/bulimia can be a control issue AND it can be influenced by societal image mongering. One feeds the other (damn these horrible puns in my way...). I don't know a psychologist worth their couch who'd deny that. And if Kate has admitted to being anorexic, then surely she's not the best judge as to what her weight should be? She should be getting treatment, not dieting.

Good point Ally abt men & anorexia. You're 100% right on that one.

I've yet to see ONE PERSON give me a good reason as to why Kate Winslet losing post-pregnancy weight gain and going back to her normal weight is a cause for any sort of great concern whatsoever. Nor have I seen one picture link being posted up "proving" that she's done anything horrible or concern-worthy to herself.

THIS is my issue. Any time any celebrity either loses weight or comes on the scene already thin, the immediate response is "ooh, eating disorder" or complete ridicule. Why is being thin one of the last accepted common prejudices? Why are thin people automatically "plastic" and non-eaters? Why is trying to get into shape for one's own sake considered "trying to fit the norm"? It's ludicrious and it pisses me off and it comes up far too often for my comfort on this board (and prior to this board, ILM, and prior to that, AMA - is the internet weight obsessed?)

Thinness on ILE = Indie on ILM. 'Critically approved' (by fashion press/music press) but not neccessarily reflective of 'real world'. ILE a refuge for people who don't go along with this, generally: in all other media thinness is hyped and praised and fatness is mocked*. An 'ordinary' celeb going 'thin' gets scorn for some of the same reasons a popstar going 'serious': it's a public sell-out to the critical norm.

*celebs being turned on and called 'anorexic' by the fashion media is the equiv of bands 'doing a Kid A' and going TOO indie.

this does little to explain why you joined the crowding declaring her to be a hideous scarecrow because she wasn't as hot to you anymore. i'd prefer her with a few extra pounds myself, but i'm not going to pretend it's anything but personal preference, unlike some people who seem to think naturally liking fat girls makes them Feminist Crusaders for Women's Rights or something.

Ethan, I'm still waiting for yr response to my other reply which is obviously the one which has gotten you all hot and bothered.

Old school ILX, eh?

Almost stuck my foot through the TV when a genealogy expert on Kate Winslet's "Who Do You Think You Are?" said the name Colquhoun was Irish.

slice of social history, this place

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ilx where have you gone you gorgeous squeezy thing

are there many other "internet message-boards" on the "world-wide web" whose threads span almost twenty years?

I didn't write the thread title...Finished Mare of Easttown last night. Brought to mind Sharp Objects (in general) and Silence of the Lambs (when Winslet and her partner go in to apprehend the first guy) at different points. Jean Smart is quite good, as she was in the second season of Fargo.

ilx where have you gone you gorgeous squeezy thing

it brought sharp objects and all the other similars to mind but i though it was far better than any of them really (not just because of winslett but in large part)

as good as season 1 of top of the lake if i had to think of anything in the same vein

Winslet's good, but I found Sharp Objects stranger and a little better. I felt like Mare threw one too many plot reversals into the last couple of episodes.

I think they all do that and its a significant weakness across pretty much any prestige crime drama i could name to come out of the glut of the past decade- scandidrama or american or whatever

thought mare actually had less of it than most (including sharp objects!)

Reading up a bit, I didn't realize that Winslet's detective partner was the same actor who played Dahmer in the mini-series--very different look.

Aimless turns his lonely eyes to you

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Sorry. Meant no offense. Was just riffing on "Mrs. Robinson" and "Aimless" sounds like "A nation."

this is the golden age of winslet/swinton/blanchett. they are everywhere. and living large. and acting large! they love to ham it up. and i like that about them in their middle-age. they take chances. they fail. they approximate pennsylvania accents. they are good at acting.

poor op, weeping for his lost waifu

whenever i think there’s no worse thread title from old ilx … jeez louise

we couldn’t just bump the streaming tv thread? no? ok

lol

would squeeze dat

old ilx had some redeeming qualities. as witness I call Is there a greater joy...

i cringed when i saw this thread title but then i remembered some of my old thread titles...

Ugh I did not know til today thanks to this thread that winslet's first bf was when she was fifteen... and he was 27. And her work colleague on her first TV show. And they lived together, for like the next 4 years!?