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I guess the AP doesn't like him too much (nice condescending tone in this article btw... hohoho you funny Brits!). Luckliy I don't have HBO. So it's crap, right?

Comic Lowers Satire Bar in HBO Special
By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS


Filed at 12:58 p.m. ET

LOS ANGELES (AP) -- First, in the interest of international relations, an obvious truth must be acknowledged: Britain has a glorious tradition of satire.

Jonathan Swift and Gilbert and Sullivan alone would place the kingdom in the lampooners hall of fame. Flash forward to Monty Python, Eddie Izzard and ``Absolutely Fabulous'' and our admiration is boundless.

Which brings us, regretfully, to HBO's ``Da Ali G Show,'' debuting Friday and billed as the U.S. version of comedian Sacha Baron Cohen's ``smash-hit'' British television show.

Nice to meet you, Mr. Cohen. Now go home. Please.

At first, we admit, we got a kick out of the characters you've created: hip-hop journalist Ali G, resplendent in acid-yellow track suit and big jewelry; clueless Borat of Kazakhstan; preening ``style'' reporter Bruno.

Watching the ungainly Borat chasing on foot after a taxi put us in mind of Peter Sellers' wonderfully clumsy moves in ``The Pink Panther.'' Cohen's accents are also impressively Sellersesque.

But when Cohen goes in search of America, ``Da Ali G Show'' goes terribly wrong. Forget Swift; think Tom Green and his pointlessly cruel pranks or ``Jackass'' and its inane stunts played on the unsuspecting and, most importantly, undeserving.

Yes, this dumb and dumber style of humor is now available in an imported version and HBO (those chumps!) shelled out money for it. The generosity didn't extend to a decent time slot: The six ``Ali G'' episodes air Friday nights at 12:30 EST, following HBO's new ``Real Time with Bill Maher.''

The annoying aspect is that Cohen is talented and obviously capable of mining more than cheap laughs. But if he's already a hit, why should he work harder than audiences ask, at home or abroad?

The galling part is how Cohen betrays satire by making it hollow and toothless. ``Da Ali G Show'' is a sheep in wolf's clothing.

For the HBO series, Cohen used his anonymity in America to snare interviews with such prominent figures as former CIA director James Woolsey and former U.N. Secretary-General Boutros Boutros-Ghali. Then he proceeds to squander the opportunities.

What does Cohen, in the guise of the semi-articulate Ali G, grill Woolsey about?

``Let's talk about some conspiracy things. Let's go back to the grassy knoll. Who actually shot J.R.?'' Cohen asks Woolsey, who corrects the reference to JFK's assassination.

If we give Cohen the benefit of the doubt and assume he's trying to drive home a point about American violence and the pop culture of ``Dallas'' and J.R. Ewing, we've just reached the ``Ali G'' mountaintop of wit.

Otherwise, he's busy making jokes about sex, about whether the seat in the United Nations marked ``Jordan'' is for Michael Jordan rather then the country, and then more jokes about sex.

It seems apparent that the famous people ``interviewed'' by Ali G didn't realize they were playing straight man in a comedy skit. Chalk that up to the perils of being a public figure.

But consider the other folks Cohen has his way with, including police officers and some kindly, civic-minded Southerners who thought they were helping a curious stranger.

Sgt. Thomas Hyers of the Philadelphia Police Academy was expecting to give a British TV reporter a tour when the flamboyant Ali G showed up and made an unfunny hash of a training exercise. He was later escorted out.

Hyers didn't realize how fully he and the department were had until he spotted a picture of Cohen as Ali G in an entertainment magazine.

``I was eating spaghetti when I saw it and almost choked on a meatball. I said, 'Oh, my God. There's that guy!'' Hyers recounted in an interview. It wasn't a fond memory.

George Thurmond, 67, of suburban Atlanta, thought he was helping introduce a foreign visitor to this country and to the Sons of the American Revolution, of which Thurmond is a member.

Instead, at a dinner attended by Thurmond and his wife and another couple, Cohen as Borat made the group uncomfortable by sharing details about his sex life.

``We were all disgusted with it, just absolutely hacked off,'' Thurmond said in an interview. ``It was a total waste of time, and everyone's embarrassed to be sucked into it.''

So what is Cohen mocking? Older people who have different standards of social decorum? Or maybe groups honoring those who helped free America from British rule (which turns out not to include freedom from mediocre British comedy).

Those hoodwinked by ``Da Ali G Show'' can shrug off the experience. But consider the larger insult and injury.

Writing in The Times of London last year about the movie ``Ali G Indahouse,'' Ian Nathan argued that Cohen's work is a sign of the shrinking demands made on satire.

``Where before it felled politician and celebrity alike, undermined the class system and took no truck with the complacency of society, now it concerns itself with daft teenage role-play and pushing the boundaries of taste,'' Nathan wrote.

Nothing funny about that. Much like ``Da Ali G Show.''

Aaron W (Aaron W), Wednesday, 19 February 2003 18:31 (twenty-two years ago)

D.u.d.

luna (luna.c), Wednesday, 19 February 2003 18:35 (twenty-two years ago)

"Where before it felled politician and celebrity alike"

before like when?

mark s (mark s), Wednesday, 19 February 2003 18:40 (twenty-two years ago)

I cringe whenever some comedian uses somebody in a skit that has no idea they're in a skit. To me it's cruel and embarassing.

That whole 'hidden camera' genre should be done away with as well.

lawrence kansas (lawrence kansas), Wednesday, 19 February 2003 18:41 (twenty-two years ago)

I cringe whenever some comedian uses somebody in a skit that has no idea they're in a skit.

I so want to agree with this, but, well, this has been the root of some of the greatest moments The Daily Show has ever brought us.

nickalicious (nickalicious), Wednesday, 19 February 2003 18:44 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm easily embarassed for other people- it's the reason I don't watch Springer.

lawrence kansas (lawrence kansas), Wednesday, 19 February 2003 18:47 (twenty-two years ago)

But at least Springer’s uh, guests, know what’s really going on when they sign up for the show.

I guess he’s run out of unsuspecting victims in the UK. I find it strange that his show is being shown on HBO and not BBC America.

No One (SiggyBaby), Wednesday, 19 February 2003 19:13 (twenty-two years ago)

The BBC don't want him. He's a Channel 4 boy.

I'm amazed that Ch4 haven't taken the opportunity to spread Brass Eye around, that being the ultimate crown of the 'unsuspecting guest' genre - and something that made the idea work - and a hundred times funnier and smarter than Ali G to boot... or have they? Has the Cake program (old news for us but still one of the greatest TV moments ever) been broadcast stateside? What about The Day Today?

Any Chris Morris at all?

Al_Ewing, Wednesday, 19 February 2003 19:56 (twenty-two years ago)

No Cake, Day Today or Chris Morris.

We’ve gotten Chef, Father Ted, League of Gentlemen, Graham Norton, Changing Rooms (over and over and over) and Ground Force, Eastenders (no Coronation Street), Brilliant (“suits you, sir”).

No One (SiggyBaby), Wednesday, 19 February 2003 20:02 (twenty-two years ago)

EVERY time I turn it on it's that stupid Changing Rooms.... When is League of Gentlemen on? I'd like to finally catch that?

Aaron W (Aaron W), Wednesday, 19 February 2003 20:03 (twenty-two years ago)

You forgot Coupling and Manchild!

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 19 February 2003 20:04 (twenty-two years ago)

Dud Edna.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Wednesday, 19 February 2003 20:04 (twenty-two years ago)

Changing Rooms is my new religion. It's like redemption in a half hour.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 19 February 2003 20:05 (twenty-two years ago)

I taped the first series of LoG (sans commercials) when it was first on a couple of years ago; haven't seen it broadcast since.

You forgot Coupling and Manchild!
Oh yeah— hilarious stuff. I don’t get to watch those that often as I have a four year old in the house who likes to repeat anything that gets a laugh.

No One (SiggyBaby), Wednesday, 19 February 2003 20:09 (twenty-two years ago)

Ah, Father Ted! It's the greatest sitcom ever produced by the UK, although I'm Alan Partridge gave it a run for its money.

Al Ewing (Al Ewing), Wednesday, 19 February 2003 20:09 (twenty-two years ago)

'Coupling' is terrible! And what the hell is 'Manchild'?

N. (nickdastoor), Thursday, 20 February 2003 02:16 (twenty-two years ago)

Manchild: Nigel Havers as sexed up 50 yr old man about town. Believe me, you don't want to know about Manchild! Your TV licence at work.

Bill E (bill_e), Thursday, 20 February 2003 03:20 (twenty-two years ago)

I read that as Nigel Planer and had to suppress the urge to run screaming

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Thursday, 20 February 2003 03:21 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh dear, yes I know Manchild after all.

N. (nickdastoor), Thursday, 20 February 2003 14:37 (twenty-two years ago)

I like in Changing Rooms when the change-ees obviously HATE what the change-ors did to their house but have to suck it up and act like it's the greatest thing ever and drink champagne and laugh and smile, even though they will now bare an eternal vicious grudge against them for ruining their house and life.

nickalicious (nickalicious), Thursday, 20 February 2003 14:39 (twenty-two years ago)

what about Baby Father? i feel sorry for you Americans getting sent all this shite

stevem (blueski), Thursday, 20 February 2003 14:40 (twenty-two years ago)

Did they use the Neneh Cherry song in the opening sequence?

Lara (Lara), Thursday, 20 February 2003 14:41 (twenty-two years ago)

Machild was rub but Giles was still kind of sexy in it.

Nicole (Nicole), Thursday, 20 February 2003 14:41 (twenty-two years ago)

If Giles was played by Nigel Havers I am in full agreement. I would do dirty things to that man if he let me.

Lara (Lara), Thursday, 20 February 2003 14:50 (twenty-two years ago)

one month passes...
Oh haha, I have a very immature sense of humor and I's sure it has a very short shelf life, but I liked the one episode I saw of the Da Ali G. Show. Oh my goodness, it is absolutely and hilariously filthy.

When he wears the skully I honestly cannot tell the difference between him and Armand Van Helden. He is very good at keeping a straight face. I like the Baron character the best ("You're so good looking and you know it.")

felicity (felicity), Sunday, 30 March 2003 22:08 (twenty-two years ago)

I enjoy the HBO version too. I'm probably going to seem lame and not with it, but I also downloaded all the Alan Partridge episodes and they're really funny!

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Sunday, 30 March 2003 22:39 (twenty-two years ago)

I think he is a good actor. I wonder if he aspires to acting in Hollywood movies.

felicity (felicity), Sunday, 30 March 2003 22:51 (twenty-two years ago)

Steve Coogan or Ali G? (may not return to thread til later... FAP imminent!)

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Sunday, 30 March 2003 22:57 (twenty-two years ago)

I imagine everything Gareth says to be in an Ali G accent. Classic.

Millar (Millar), Sunday, 30 March 2003 23:02 (twenty-two years ago)

one year passes...
Meanwhile...

http://us.news1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20040425/i/r1453523515.jpg

i dunno; i just find the concept of Ali G wandering around the National Mall today, camera crew in tow, to be really, really funny...

Kingfish Disraeli (Kingfish), Sunday, 25 April 2004 22:57 (twenty-one years ago)


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