― Maria (Maria), Monday, 24 February 2003 20:45 (twenty-two years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 24 February 2003 20:46 (twenty-two years ago)
― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Monday, 24 February 2003 20:57 (twenty-two years ago)
having said all that, i do sometimes regret that i didnt do cartography, i would like to be making maps right now
― gareth (gareth), Monday, 24 February 2003 21:03 (twenty-two years ago)
― Ed (dali), Monday, 24 February 2003 21:07 (twenty-two years ago)
― Ed (dali), Monday, 24 February 2003 21:08 (twenty-two years ago)
The resulting tradeoff is worth its own thread, do you think?
― Amateurist (amateurist), Monday, 24 February 2003 21:09 (twenty-two years ago)
― Maria (Maria), Monday, 24 February 2003 21:14 (twenty-two years ago)
― Ed (dali), Monday, 24 February 2003 21:17 (twenty-two years ago)
― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 24 February 2003 21:29 (twenty-two years ago)
― di smith (lucylurex), Monday, 24 February 2003 22:05 (twenty-two years ago)
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Monday, 24 February 2003 22:07 (twenty-two years ago)
Wow, ILX 2063, we'll all have AIM video chats that only work half the time.
― jel -- (jel), Monday, 24 February 2003 22:13 (twenty-two years ago)
― mark s (mark s), Monday, 24 February 2003 22:16 (twenty-two years ago)
― Amateurist (amateurist), Monday, 24 February 2003 22:22 (twenty-two years ago)
― di smith (lucylurex), Monday, 24 February 2003 22:22 (twenty-two years ago)
― jel -- (jel), Monday, 24 February 2003 22:24 (twenty-two years ago)
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 24 February 2003 22:28 (twenty-two years ago)
― gareth (gareth), Monday, 24 February 2003 22:29 (twenty-two years ago)
not to mention that Swarthmore students/graduates tend to be insufferably snobby and/or pretentious. dunno about Williams (though i know that George Steinbrenner is an alumnus -- make of that what you will).
― Tad (llamasfur), Monday, 24 February 2003 22:32 (twenty-two years ago)
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 24 February 2003 22:33 (twenty-two years ago)
my neurotic/snobby Swarthmore educated ex-gf to thread!
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 24 February 2003 22:34 (twenty-two years ago)
Generalizing about people because of what school they went to (state, private or otherwise) = dud.
― hstencil, Monday, 24 February 2003 22:34 (twenty-two years ago)
Counterexample -- Swarthmore alumnus Jake Anderson, Celesteville mainman and Good Guy All -Around, is anything but snobby or pretentious, instead being a warm and good-hearted son of the Midwest. :-)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 24 February 2003 22:37 (twenty-two years ago)
but I hate those Amherst fux0rz! (kidding again)
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 24 February 2003 22:39 (twenty-two years ago)
damn Berkeley English classes. you know what I meant.
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 24 February 2003 22:40 (twenty-two years ago)
Of course, I went to Bard, so please just stereotype me as a druggie with multiple STDs, thanks!
― hstencil, Monday, 24 February 2003 22:41 (twenty-two years ago)
― Chris P (Chris P), Monday, 24 February 2003 22:42 (twenty-two years ago)
I already had! and I didn't even know you went to Bard!
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 24 February 2003 22:43 (twenty-two years ago)
― hstencil, Monday, 24 February 2003 22:44 (twenty-two years ago)
actually, i think that yer Donald Fagen!
is there a stereotype associated with Rutgers (my undergrad school)?
― Tad (llamasfur), Monday, 24 February 2003 22:45 (twenty-two years ago)
― hstencil, Monday, 24 February 2003 22:48 (twenty-two years ago)
― Tad (llamasfur), Monday, 24 February 2003 22:50 (twenty-two years ago)
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 24 February 2003 22:52 (twenty-two years ago)
― Mary (Mary), Monday, 24 February 2003 22:52 (twenty-two years ago)
Tad, well to my knowledge I've never had an STD, but I did smoke some weed last night, so I guess I do fit the stereotype. *sigh*
― hstencil, Monday, 24 February 2003 22:54 (twenty-two years ago)
"all I know, is that there were rumours, he was into field hockey players"
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 24 February 2003 22:56 (twenty-two years ago)
no, but I knew him. and the Williams alum ex-gf lived in the same co-op with him for a sememster. I remember dancing at a party when suddenly The Naked Guy (TM) jumped into the fray. I quickly jumped out.
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 24 February 2003 22:58 (twenty-two years ago)
and is Otis Wheeler still hanging around ILXOR? he's going to Hampshire College, which is also a hippy/crunchy type of school.
― Tad (llamasfur), Monday, 24 February 2003 23:00 (twenty-two years ago)
― hstencil, Monday, 24 February 2003 23:04 (twenty-two years ago)
Maria, DON'T WORRY. I did an English/Humanities degree with concentration on both fiction and non-fiction writing. I was making a living off my writing within six months of graduation from the BA - something only six per cent of all writers receiving cash for work ever manage at any time of their lives. But it isn't always easy, especially when you're not on very much money to begin with and publications pay later than you ever imagined they could.
What I do regret is not getting an MA but at the time I wanted to establish a byline/career and was sick to death of sitting in academic surroundings putting plans I'd had since age 14 pretty much on hold.
― suzy (suzy), Monday, 24 February 2003 23:12 (twenty-two years ago)
― hstencil, Monday, 24 February 2003 23:15 (twenty-two years ago)
Also, I too am an English major!
― Pam, Tuesday, 25 February 2003 01:17 (twenty-two years ago)
Any stereotypes about Haverford people? Not as well known as Swarthmore but much friendlier to applicants...Haverford and Williams are currently high on my list of schools.
It's interesting how people are generally not bothered by doing something out of their field. It baffles me a little.
― Maria (Maria), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 01:39 (twenty-two years ago)
Well, think of it this way -- some go to school to learn something specific for a job, others go to school for an experience and find a job later as they do, others mix the two, etc. etc. There's no one 'right' or 'wrong' way about this, what is the perfect path for one person is anathema to others. If I had any general advice, it would be to keep your options open as you consider any sort of advanced education and what you might want to learn from it. As Suzy says, don't worry.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 01:44 (twenty-two years ago)
― esquire1983 (esquire1983), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 01:49 (twenty-two years ago)
― Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 01:51 (twenty-two years ago)
― Maria (Maria), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 01:51 (twenty-two years ago)
― Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 02:00 (twenty-two years ago)
where i did undergrad, they didn't have a pre-law major. they had a "pre-law advisor," who basically just told you to get the best grades you could in whatever you ended up majoring in. and law schools (unofficially) frown on pre-law majors -- which makes sense, because law is a separate field of study in itself and being prepared to do well at law school isn't really that dependent on classes one takes as an undergrad (as opposed to pre-med students, who have to take a certain number of science classes so they have some baseline knowledge before going to med school).
in actuality, a lot of people who end up going to law school end up majoring in political science, philosophy, or history (just my antecdotal experience).
― Tad (llamasfur), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 02:15 (twenty-two years ago)
And as others have said upthread, don't worry about making the right choice as to your major being 'useful' - I loved being an English major and what you're being taught is how to use your mind critically, it's just that I had more fun doing that in English than I'd have had in History or Philosophy. I don't know many people who think of their college major as their 'field'
― H (Heruy), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 03:41 (twenty-two years ago)
― Amateurist (amateurist), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 04:33 (twenty-two years ago)
― Tad (llamasfur), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 05:01 (twenty-two years ago)
They certainly never landed me any dream jobs.
The only guy i know from Swarthmore is about as nice as you could ask someone to be...
― Matt Maxwell (Matt M.), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 05:14 (twenty-two years ago)
i.e. go to Swarthmore
― gabbneb (gabbneb), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 05:15 (twenty-two years ago)
― Mark C (Mark C), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 23:23 (twenty-two years ago)
― ambrose (ambrose), Wednesday, 26 February 2003 11:09 (twenty-two years ago)
― Ed (dali), Wednesday, 26 February 2003 11:28 (twenty-two years ago)
Looking back on how, as an undergraduate, I went from a practical discipline to an impractical one (journalism to art history), I'm finally forced to admit that subtle peer pressure probably had a great deal to do with it. I was surrounded by literature types and feeling very insecure about my own cultural literacy. When I look back on those days, though, I see that the person I was most sympatico with (and neglected more than I should have, probably because my literati friends didn't like her) was a mixture of analytical and creative and became an architect.
That said, I never once considered English and I think Art History appealed to me because it is actually highly cross-disciplinary. I think it was a way of one-upping the literature types while secretly retaining a fair degree of practicality (you can study all sorts of things under the art history umbrella).
― Kerry (dymaxia), Monday, 5 May 2003 15:26 (twenty-two years ago)
Funny thing is I think theatre has helped me more practically in my career, though having the BS on my resume has probably helped more for getting the jobs in the first place. Nothing I've ever done workwise has been anything that I couldn't have done without the BS though. I mean I've never actually been employed as an engineer. Just web-related computer sciencey stuff.
― martin m. (mushrush), Monday, 5 May 2003 15:54 (twenty-two years ago)