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Alan, have you heard about this OS 11 that Ed seems to have? What's the deal? Ed, too, while we're at it?

I get Jaguar (and a new PowerBook) tonight!

You don't need Jaguar to run X11. Google XonX and you'll find all the ways you can do it on 10.1 and 10.2.

Jaguar is cool but my quicktime is broken and I can't seem to fix it properly. I might have to do a fresh install.

There are ways of getting Jaguar, email me.

I have also upgraded to 10.2.2 as 10.2 originally had some crappy bug that made me unable to create properly PC-readable data CDs.

But I don't have a Movies sections unless a first aid cross with 'AppleCare' written underneath is code for Movies.

Perhaps this is the much vaunted 10.2.2 -> 10.2.4 upgrade.

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10.3 will be Panther

Is this the geek version of extreme sports? Jag-Ass?

And as for the 'invisible' thing..

For example, rendering in iMovie is, well, time consuming. The codecs for video are heavyheavyheavy I guess. But normally I like doing about five things at once, and even with over 800MB of RAM my Mac drops to tortise speed if I'm trying to render Photoshop, surf, send email, and burn a CD at the same time. Overall, the Photoshop experience would be a lot better with a quicker chip.

Another example is I'm doing a nice little 120 photo slideshow for She Who Must Be Obeyed, and you should see that bitch slow down ol' 450. iPhoto is actually a pretty great program, but you can't overload it too much apparently.

Finally, a similar thing to rendering that I do a lot is edit audio files and if I batch process say 20 files with three plug ins, you're looking at about 20 minutes of processing time. And if I want to do other things like surf, do email, type in Word, or whatever, it makes things decidedly less efficient. A dual processor would make mincemeat of tasks like that, especially considering a new machine has way faster buses than mine.

The good news is that my Mac hasn't crashed one time since I installed Jaguar 6 weeks ago. Not once. I haven't even had an application quit unexpectedly, and I've pushed the processor as hard I could by doing things like rendering in Photoshop, burning a disk, surfing the web, and launching/closing applications all at the same time. There is slowdown of course, but nothing cracked. No coaster burning. Jaguar's multitasking has been worth the price of admission alone. If I'm not doing anything processor intensive like rendering, then I don't really have any speed complaints at all.

My desktop machine (running Gentoo Linux) has 196MB, and the swap memory is only ever touched if I'm trying to edit big graphics files - I mean, ones that are tens of megabytes in size, at the same time as doing normal everyday stuff. What applications are there that really need *that* much memory?

There was a discussion on one of the mac boards and apparently more RAM should equal less paging of the swap file as you say, which means better battery life and better performance. Largely its helpful if you have a lot of processes running because inactive or backgrounded processes are more likely to dump their memory space to the disc. With the OS X there are so many processes just to run the gui and make it user friendly i think its more important in Mac land

I haven't worked out how to give myself an icon, let alone anyone else. Also, the chat room name doesn't appear at the top of the window. Also, if I copy and paste and stuff, sometimes all new messages in a window are invisible and I have to open a new window. And fonts are incredibly fiddly to change. And you can't paste unformatted text. And you can only save a transcript in a propriatory format that takes an age to page through.

Altogether, iChat 1.0.1 is pretty poor. Has it been improved?

I have never used iChat. The only chat I ever use is Yahoo's...doesn't iChat only work with AOL?

Well, that was the mantra I've always believed in too; but I've found that I've reached a point where I really don't need any more. As I said, I can get a desktop environment (a notoriously memory-hungry one, too), a web browser (with lots of tabs open), a couple of chat programs, an editor and lots of terminal windows all into 192MB, without touching swap. Why is OS X so much more memory-hungry?

So against my better judgement I let Software Update start downloading the 10.2.4 Combo update. 77.9MB on a dialup connection? Gulp. After 3 hours my ISP auto disconnects me so I reconnected again straight away and followed some weird advice about 'Saving Checked Items to Desktop' when Software update said 'Oi - your download got aborted'. To my relief, when I started it again, the .tar file somewhere deep in the system that it was saving it to (found using a finder search on 'update') was resumed, rather than started again. Phew! I thought. But then it finally it 77.9MB and kept going. It's now at 81.8MB and still going. I don't know what to do. The uninformative progress bar in Software Update looks as full as it can be.

Last time I updated I just downloaded the dmg.bin thing off the website and that worked fine - this Software Update thing is a crock of shit. I can't face starting it all again. GRRRRR.

I switched my ISP and my phone companies all to the same service, and I pay less now with DSL than I did before with seperate companies and a dial-up.

Why doesn't Apple put license these updates to magazine discs like with third party shareware and freeware software?

I still think that built-in file resume technology is a weird omission from OSX. Maybe it will come in 10.2.5..

(ps. can you tell me how to utilse this download resume feature? I tried the dmg.bin download while I slept last night and that of course stalled too. The 8MB was sitting there in the download manager - clicking on it didn't give me an option to resume.)

I just tried to follow Sean's advice and download it at work but I am blocked from downloading program files by our firewall.

Download resume just happens automatically with me I've never had to turn it on.

In other news Al Gore has joined the Apple Board of Directors to take the place that Larry Ellison left last year.

Somehow, they managed to make that program both fast and slow at the same time. While the operations can run one on top another at fast processing speeds, the interface feels like a buggy web page at all times, lagging with each touch, as if your cache is too full or something. Also with fresh and crisp graphics that are always fuzzy at the same time! No working font utility that allows you to keep all of your old fonts, just the super standard (and really boring ones) like Adobe fonts.

Ed - yeah, well I thought that Software Update was resuming automatically too, but unless they've grossly mistated the filesize then it didn't really work. Maybe I'll experiment with a smaller update to iPhoto or something and see if that works once interrupted.

Has anyone used Photoshop Elements? It's sort of Photoshop lite, and I'm thinking of getting it-- iPhoto is nice, but not very useful, really.

FWIW, about 50% of the folks at my workplace (university departmental staff) are on 10.2.x. Folks are demanding it - it's been a great success for us.

I had the head of depatmen impressed with how well X11 (apps served from our FEM server) worked on my laptop. I think I might have ensnare him.

Quark quite franckly don't deserve to be in business any more.

Out of the three people in this office, we have one using Jaguar, one using WinXP and one (me) using Gentoo Linux.

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