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Revenge: Is it something you consider when you've been wronged or do you try to take the high road and move on without closure?

― Lucas, Thursday, 27 February 2003 12:30 (twenty-two years ago)

Hamlet to thread!

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 27 February 2003 12:32 (twenty-two years ago)

I could never be arsed.

― Lara (Lara), Thursday, 27 February 2003 12:33 (twenty-two years ago)

For big things I prefer to move on. However, every time my housemate C acts like a cockfarmer (i.e. all the time, and he breathes through his mouth) I eat more of his cheese. For major infractions I pull our shared internet connection out of the socket and then lock my bedroom door, leaving him wondering why he can't connect. I am never normally this petty, it's just him, he's an awful sub-human thing from a B-movie.

― Anna (Anna), Thursday, 27 February 2003 12:39 (twenty-two years ago)

what anna said.

the more you try and deal in revenge, the worse you make it on yourself. if a person is bad enough to consider revenge, maybe that person shouldnt be so important in your life

― gareth (gareth), Thursday, 27 February 2003 12:40 (twenty-two years ago)

ie, every second you waste on a bad person could be spent on a good person, or on doing something good.

― gareth (gareth), Thursday, 27 February 2003 12:41 (twenty-two years ago)

Or sleeping. Mmmm sleeping.

― Lara (Lara), Thursday, 27 February 2003 12:42 (twenty-two years ago)

i used to be big on revenge but now i tend to let the cosmos deal with these things as it inevitably will

― stevem (blueski), Thursday, 27 February 2003 12:44 (twenty-two years ago)

Cosmo will fix everything, you are right.

― Lara (Lara), Thursday, 27 February 2003 12:45 (twenty-two years ago)

Gareth,
I feel that way too. Sometimes I feel like maybe I should do something so it doesn't look like I am a pushover but usually I just don't want to waste my time on energy on something I look on as a slug. However, there have been times when I know I've been thrown into a rage that only murder can resolve. Fortunately for me I am too much of a procrastinator to have gone that far and by the time I get motivated the rage has worn off.

Lara (or someone else who may be able to excuse my ignorance), please translate the term "being arsed" into American English.

― Lucas, Thursday, 27 February 2003 12:46 (twenty-two years ago)

being arsed=making effort

― gareth (gareth), Thursday, 27 February 2003 12:48 (twenty-two years ago)

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Thursday, 27 February 2003 12:49 (twenty-two years ago)

thanks... now I'm off for a another brilliant day at the salt mine!

― Lucas, Thursday, 27 February 2003 12:51 (twenty-two years ago)

revenge is so 4 years ago, it's all about pre-emptive action nowadays.

― ken, Thursday, 27 February 2003 13:26 (twenty-two years ago)

and schaudenfreud is the new black

― stevem (blueski), Thursday, 27 February 2003 13:43 (twenty-two years ago)

Revenge? Tsk, it's me who carries out the evil deeds in the first place...

― j0e (j0e), Thursday, 27 February 2003 13:45 (twenty-two years ago)

enjoyable when it comes off, but just opens you up to have revenge taken on you again. generally not worth it.

― weasel diesel (K1l14n), Thursday, 27 February 2003 13:46 (twenty-two years ago)

Revenge is deeply underrated. I loved _Pineapple Face_ and the "Gun World Porn" EP.

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 27 February 2003 14:30 (twenty-two years ago)

i like to pronounce it 'REVENGAY!' or at least 'Revornge!'

― stevem (blueski), Thursday, 27 February 2003 14:38 (twenty-two years ago)

Revenge is a colossal dud. Challenging your enemies to a DUEL is where it's at!

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 27 February 2003 14:44 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.classicscentral.com/pic6/cc03.jpg

the only way to do it is to become fantastically wealthy, create a new identity, and play headgames for 15 years before moving in for the kill.

― Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Thursday, 27 February 2003 14:50 (twenty-two years ago)

Revenge usual motive in tribal wars
http://www.upi.com/view.cfm?StoryID=20030214-015134-7877r

― the hegemon, Thursday, 27 February 2003 15:18 (twenty-two years ago)

Bigger Brothers Rep: So Mr Simpson what are your reasons for wanting to adopt a young boy?

Homer's brain: Dont say revenge Dont say revenge! Dont say revenge!

Homer: Urm, revenge?

Homer's brain: Thats it! I'm outta here!

― stevem (blueski), Thursday, 27 February 2003 15:37 (twenty-two years ago)

Living well is the best revenge, they say. and yeah, the cosmos fixes things (except for plumbing).

― teeny (teeny), Thursday, 27 February 2003 16:03 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.angelfire.com/ny2/russkafin/images/norm5.jpg

― Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Thursday, 27 February 2003 16:08 (twenty-two years ago)

i know its a cliche, but success is the best revenge. whatever success means to you. if someone pisses you off, the best way to deal with it is to feel good about yourself. theres enough terrible people in the world, without knowingly contributing to it yrself.

― di smith (lucylurex), Thursday, 27 February 2003 22:55 (twenty-two years ago)

but stashing fish in someones house just feels so much beter. there's not thing quite like the instant gratifactions of doing something awful to a person who's betrayed you and totaly fucked you over.

ya, that's right andy, i haven't forgotten.

― dyson (dyson), Thursday, 27 February 2003 23:16 (twenty-two years ago)

Search Tsui Hark's The Blade for a film about the necessity-cum-futility of revenge.

― Amateurist (amateurist), Thursday, 27 February 2003 23:19 (twenty-two years ago)

It also happens to be one of the three of four greatest films to come out of Hong Kong. But not for the faint of heart.

― Amateurist (amateurist), Thursday, 27 February 2003 23:19 (twenty-two years ago)

i heard about that. i heard it's gory as hell!

― dyson (dyson), Thursday, 27 February 2003 23:23 (twenty-two years ago)

I really adore Tsui Hark. I did hear talk of his doing a sequel to Zu: Warriors Of The Mystic Mountain that might, post-Crouching Tiger, even get a UK theatrical release.

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Thursday, 27 February 2003 23:32 (twenty-two years ago)

In the past when I've wanted to take revenge, I told myself to let it go for one month, and then to reconsider whether I was still so vengeful. For the most part by the end of the month I had forgotten that I had wanted to take some sort of revenge.

Which is not to say that I don't admire Dom for having pissed in an annoying flatmate's wine bottle.

― j.lu (j.lu), Thursday, 27 February 2003 23:46 (twenty-two years ago)

I agree with Anna.

For small slights the teflon mirror approach is cheap and temporarily satisfying. Small get-backs are the fast food of morality.

For important things, moving on is not a lack of closure but the best closure of all. Announcements that one is taking the moral high ground (whether to the offender or to mutual acquaintances) are almost as self-defeating as are deliberately retributive acts. Removing a cancerous individual from your life without involving anyone else in the process is difficult but very satisfying. On a pragmatic level, this approach also allows for plausible deniability in case the offender proves corrigible or you find yourself in a more forgiving mood, as j.lu noted.

― felicity (felicity), Thursday, 27 February 2003 23:58 (twenty-two years ago)

i heard about that. i heard it's gory as hell!

It's not especially gory (any gore is mostly implied), but it is the most ferocious film I know; it never lets up. It's sort of exhausting. Tsui did direct a remake of Zu, it's called (in English) The Legend of Zu; I haven't seen it, but apparently it's in a much less loopy vein that the original.

Incidentally, I see no purpose to revenge. Any acts I have taken in the spirit of retaliation (however slight, and they've only been very slight) have only resulted in my feeling guilty and ashamed.

― Amateurist (amateurist), Thursday, 27 February 2003 23:59 (twenty-two years ago)

my revenge has been to train my eyebrows like that guy in xu warriors

― mark s (mark s), Friday, 28 February 2003 01:31 (twenty-two years ago)

When I feel I've been wronged I stomp around and mutter and plot and plot and plot. I plot the most brilliant revenge scenarios the world has ever witnessed. Really. They're incredible. And very intricate. And then, during the process of all of the plotting and trying to get the little details organized I calm down and decide against the whole plot thing after all. Really. What could someone do to me that would merit such a brilliant revenge strategy?

― I'm Passing Open Windows (Ms Laura), Friday, 28 February 2003 01:51 (twenty-two years ago)

Revenge = eh. Conscious passive-aggression = classic. If they're the same thing, then still classic.

― Joe (Joe), Friday, 28 February 2003 02:49 (twenty-two years ago)

I don't think I've ever been wronged, so I'm not sure I can comment.

― N. (nickdastoor), Friday, 28 February 2003 03:05 (twenty-two years ago)

Well, not seriously, anyway. A man made me get £250 out of the cashpoint for him once but I got it back from the bank.

― N. (nickdastoor), Friday, 28 February 2003 03:08 (twenty-two years ago)

utu is the way to go.

― Clare (not entirely unhappy), Friday, 28 February 2003 04:22 (twenty-two years ago)

I once signed a guy (who was seriously out to get me) up on all kinds of mailing lists for free samples of feminine hygiene products and household cleaners to be delivered to his work.

― Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Friday, 28 February 2003 14:42 (twenty-two years ago)

[random boring porno image - Moderator]

I don't know what this picture has to do with revenge but I am bored!

― lucas (lucas), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 01:15 (twenty-two years ago)

That was porno?

― lucas (lucas), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 02:34 (twenty-two years ago)

I guess I think it's dud. Even though there's a handful of people I still have very bad feelings about out there, about whom I've indulged in revenge fantasies a bit. Maybe fantasising about revenge is even more of a dud than actually doing it, tho'.

There is one person who, if I ever meet him again (not too likely), I will almost certainly either spit in his face or pour a drink over his head. Whichever seems the most practical/satisfying at the time. (Actually, I'd probably give him a good old kicking if I was strong enough. Oh well.) But that's not revenge, really...

― ChristineSH, Wednesday, 5 March 2003 02:35 (twenty-two years ago)

I am with you on this. Sometimes I really feel I need to do something when someone does something bad to me... especially if it was INTENTIONAL and MEAN SPIRITED. However, I find myself feeling kind of silly fantasizing and plotting and all the other things necessary to carry out the definitive solution. I can get so wound up that I wind up frustarting myself because I can never carry out a true and profoundly soul cleansing revenge scenario.

― lucas (lucas), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 02:41 (twenty-two years ago)

Revenge = Classic

I have not committed revenge, but rather, have been revenged upon. I must say it was a complete and utter success. I was totally humilated and degraded and much of my life was ruined yet it changed my behavior for the better.

Just remember not to take it too far because you don't want to push the other person(s) down so far that they fight back and start the whole silly cycle again.

― BurmaKitty (BurmaKitty), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 02:41 (twenty-two years ago)

Girl... quit exagerrating!

― lucas (lucas), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 02:43 (twenty-two years ago)

I would like to mention that I'm trying to get my band to cover Ministry's "Revenge." A true classic. you did a-gane and a-gane and a-gane! The corridor...yes, the corridor!

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 02:49 (twenty-two years ago)

send me an MP3 of it should your porject go through

― lucas (lucas), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 02:53 (twenty-two years ago)

Girl... quit exagerrating!
-- lucas

Why does no one take me seriously on this board????

hmmm...this class clown reputation is harder to shake than I thought!

― BurmaKitty (BurmaKitty), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 04:21 (twenty-two years ago)

Certain things in life speak louder than bombs.

― lucas (lucas), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 08:12 (twenty-two years ago)

four years pass...

I know my revenge fantasies should stay just that, but damn the urge to hurt is pretty difficult to repress.

― marianna lcl, Thursday, 22 November 2007 14:55 (seventeen years ago)

four months pass...

A message composed several countries away, and forwarded under the pretext of a light social suggestion, murders the last hope that a decade-long friendship is authentic.

Pretending not to notice is not plausible. There is nothing but to call it a spade and be finished.

I suppose that -- and my wicked memory -- are revenge enough.

― felicity, Tuesday, 25 March 2008 10:19 (seventeen years ago)

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