what are your best practical longevity tips?

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this could be boring but...

here is my top 10 pragmatic longevity tips nowadays

1 basicaly be happy.
2 practice c.r
3 sleep 5 or 6 hours per night, no more no less.
4 do light exercices like walking an hour per day, using steps rather than elevators if you can etc
5 get medical insurance
6 practice yoga to learn how to breath healthily to avoid stress and anxiety
7 work at a place that is not polluted, have low accident risk and feel a healthy pride at your workplace
8 be part of a social network: join a commercial, charity or recreational group for a sense of belonging against alienation
9 don't smoke or hang around second hand smoke
10 avoid living in an area where disasters are likely to happen (war, earthquake, tidal waves, tornado etc)

what are your best practical longevity tips?

Sébastien Chikara (Sébastien Chikara), Thursday, 27 February 2003 17:04 (twenty-two years ago)

avoid living in an area where disasters are likely to happen

That rules out Earth, then.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 27 February 2003 17:09 (twenty-two years ago)

1. masturbate, masturbate, masturbate

Chris V. (Chris V), Thursday, 27 February 2003 17:11 (twenty-two years ago)

If that's the top ten I should be *THUMP*

brg30 (brg30), Thursday, 27 February 2003 17:16 (twenty-two years ago)

drink one glass of premium single-malt Scotch daily.

hstencil, Thursday, 27 February 2003 17:20 (twenty-two years ago)

Best advice I've heard so far, it's especially good if you drink it while relaxing in the bath as I did last night.

chris (chris), Thursday, 27 February 2003 17:24 (twenty-two years ago)

Magic slippers.

Tim (Tim), Thursday, 27 February 2003 17:26 (twenty-two years ago)

Try not to die young (obviously I have already passed that).

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Thursday, 27 February 2003 19:19 (twenty-two years ago)

1. Try not to die young.
2. Try not to die old.

INSTANT IMMORTALITY!

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 27 February 2003 19:29 (twenty-two years ago)

c.r.?

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 27 February 2003 19:35 (twenty-two years ago)

Cheesy quote of the day:
"Don't sweat the small stuff...it's all small stuff"

oops (Oops), Thursday, 27 February 2003 19:37 (twenty-two years ago)

c.r. = calory restriction.

avoid living in an area where disasters are likely to happen
That rules out Earth, then.

incidently this is one of the strongest argument of the space colonization communties.

Sébastien Chikara (Sébastien Chikara), Friday, 28 February 2003 02:43 (twenty-two years ago)

think about baseball

James Blount (James Blount), Friday, 28 February 2003 02:48 (twenty-two years ago)

1. masturbate, masturbate, masturbate

actually, i read this article about a 70-year old Chinese man who, for only god knows why, decided not to have sex or masturbate EVER, and he now looks like hes in his late 30s/ealy 40s.

phil-two (phil-two), Friday, 28 February 2003 02:58 (twenty-two years ago)

Wow - if I go to bed now I can have 6 hours sleep. I thought I was up too late. Are you sure about this sleep thing?

N. (nickdastoor), Friday, 28 February 2003 03:01 (twenty-two years ago)

here's some more:

* have a mentally active life to avoid being demented from 80 to 120
* drink filtered water
* have a yearly medical check-up: the best medicine is preventive medicine
* dont get yourself a car and avoid using cars but if you really have to, then always use a seatbelt
* beware of aids and stdZ: use condoms
* be calm ; don't be agressive, competitive or easily irritated. be constructor of yourself with the other.
* having a boyfriend/girlfriend increases longevity. this is esp true 4 mens 4 some reasons.
* save 10% of each pay for the Very Long Run
* eat 5 portion of fruits and vegies per day. Wash them well with vinegar to get rid of pesticides and other chemicals
* avoid walking along streets with heavy traffic to avoid smog / use a smog mask and avoid looking like mj
* live near a hospital and a fire station
* don't skip breakfast. skip lunch instead.
* eat tomatoe, fish and food high fiber every week
*Have a first aid kit in the house
* massages
* get knowledgeable on anatomy, medecine, nutrition and psychology
* don't fluctuate your weight too much
* estimate your total (serum) cholesterol, estimate your total hdl (good cholesterol)
* get a cryo contract
* always carry your id and an emergency contact phone number
* make a life plan accordingly to your wildest longevity expectations.ex: visualize your to do list for the next 800 years
* avoid drugs. Also avoid achool or have a moderate usage of it: one drink of alchool per day is good 4 circulation.(one glass of premium single-malt Scotch isn't a bad idea, I'll try that)
* get involved in the longevity cause. first work to be an immortal then you'll have all the time you need to solve other problems.
* have a normal resting heart rate
* be politically active as a longevity activist. ex: be pro therapeutic cloning
* 3 times per week do stronger exercices like 60 min aerobic for cardio and do strenght building exercices.
* check your blood pressure regularely. Synstolic blood pressure, anddiastolic blood pressure and diastolic blood pressure should be normal.
* eat vitamins
* have someone with who you can make a "cognitive cleanup" to get rid of the daily stress caused by technological and cultural accelerating changes.
* live in a sanitary place without pollutions of any kind
* carry a mean of communication at all time
* simplify your life as much as you can: get rid of clutter in your home and in your life to diminish your stress
* avoid obsessive compulsive behaviors.
* make anti-oxydants like berries and green tea part of your daily diet.
* listen to classical music to optimize your cognitive capacities.
* practice martial arts


I removed the numbers because I still need to rank them out.

Eventually I'll make a separate list for nutritional strategies to optimize longevity because there are so much of them interesting folk reciepes, antioxydants and vitamins etc

Sébastien Chikara (Sébastien Chikara), Friday, 28 February 2003 04:22 (twenty-two years ago)

making lists?

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 28 February 2003 04:40 (twenty-two years ago)

You know something? When it comes down to it, I'd rather eat, drink, and cavort my way through life - screw the extra 20 years that I *might* statistically get at the end of my life.

The French have got that down and they live longer anyway.

Chris Barrus (xibalba), Friday, 28 February 2003 04:42 (twenty-two years ago)

N, this is why I think it's important to have somesort of a top 50 on practical longevity tips where memes are in direct "evolutionary" competition 4 the top: it's easyer to get the truth that way

like,
one week there is that coalition of doctors who will say
7 or 8 hours is best then another gang will say
5, 6 or 7 is best. it's a bit confusing for an amateur like me :)

Sébastien Chikara (Sébastien Chikara), Friday, 28 February 2003 04:45 (twenty-two years ago)

Sébastien, now who's the medieval barber here?

what you need is a good bleeding!

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 28 February 2003 04:50 (twenty-two years ago)

avoid obsessive compulsive behaviors.

haha. avoid obsession with longetivity?

Aaron A., Friday, 28 February 2003 05:04 (twenty-two years ago)

Sleeping and eating are similar in this fashion:

If you're hungry eat, when you're no longer hungry STOP.

David Beckhouse (David Beckhouse), Friday, 28 February 2003 05:15 (twenty-two years ago)

Chris I think I can be smart enough to eat, drink and cavort my way through life in a way that is not in conflict with my optimal longevity; there are no reasons why one should exclude the other.
There are no reasons why I should make any sacrifices, on that point I totally agree with you! I don't want to be an accomplice in that crime against humanity that is the ascetic ideal, bloody disgrace of a machine to "make angels"/alienate that was pushed on the world by christians and certain philosophers.

If following my path for optimal longevity I hit what seems to be a "conflict of interest" then I have to spend some time to solve it on my own and using brainz networks on the net.

real quick like here are some solutions to what looked like sacrifices you suggested in yr'posts:
*there are many non damaging ways to alter one's consciousness.
*there's an alternative to calory restriction that is less efficacious (18% increase of lifespan instead of 40% on animals tested) but still it's better than nothing: eat all U want then exercice in consequence to burn it all and then some.
*you can experiment with weird sleep cycles ex: davinci who was managing to sleep 15 minutes every 4 hours.

when there's a will (to power)there's a way (to the superman!)

Sébastien Chikara (Sébastien Chikara), Friday, 28 February 2003 05:27 (twenty-two years ago)

"See the ball, be the ball."

nanananananananananananaaaa...

jm (jtm), Friday, 28 February 2003 05:41 (twenty-two years ago)

I thought this thread would be about tantra.

Leee (Leee), Friday, 28 February 2003 05:45 (twenty-two years ago)

i don't try to have a long life, i try to have a wonderful life.

di smith (lucylurex), Friday, 28 February 2003 05:50 (twenty-two years ago)

Spencer:
making lists?
I'm working on a hobby website and I'd like to fit this list in a script that would allow people to vote on their favorite tip.

what you need is a good bleeding!
good idea... hey I could recuperate the surplus blood afterwards to bathe in it ! talk about an infallible holistic approach that ownz old school stylee


phil-two :
I briefly googled for your story but without a match, could you post a link to this article in here? what's tricky with verifying the age of old folks in certain foreign countries is that sometimes they don't have public records, and people living far in the country often don't bother to register the new births.


i don't try to have a long life, i try to have a wonderful life.
aww di, why can't you have the two? what is it that is stopping you?

Sébastien Chikara (Sébastien Chikara), Friday, 28 February 2003 06:10 (twenty-two years ago)

live in a plastic bubble with little airholes.

Lola Falana, Friday, 28 February 2003 06:14 (twenty-two years ago)

how about air pollution Lola?

Sébastien Chikara (Sébastien Chikara), Friday, 28 February 2003 06:27 (twenty-two years ago)

leee, shoot a tantra.
I'm sure i got tantras.

Sébastien Chikara (Sébastien Chikara), Friday, 28 February 2003 06:29 (twenty-two years ago)

1. never read threads like this

That Girl (thatgirl), Friday, 28 February 2003 06:34 (twenty-two years ago)

what is a tantra?
somehow i think we can eat it. and suck it.

Sébastien Chikara (Sébastien Chikara), Friday, 28 February 2003 06:41 (twenty-two years ago)

my Chinese middle name translates roughly to "Generation Everlasting"

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 28 February 2003 08:20 (twenty-two years ago)

getting less upset at people who smoke. hahahaha

drinking japanese tea is GRATE. i am hoping it will erase the negative effects of smoking. heh.

nathalie (nathalie), Friday, 28 February 2003 09:37 (twenty-two years ago)

Careful about too much fluoride. Water is good!

Dan I., Friday, 28 February 2003 10:05 (twenty-two years ago)

choose long-lived ancestors.

rener (rener), Friday, 28 February 2003 10:05 (twenty-two years ago)

rener this is a good cause for concern.
as they say at longevity game
it's something we can't control but knowing the medical history of your family may help you identify potential problems and minimize related risks."
ex: cardiovascular problems, diabetes, alzheimer etc.

also, concern over this issue should be a source of motivation to participate in projects like standford's genome@home project.
There are no efforts involved and it could increase your freedom by pushing the boundaries set by arbitrary attributed genetic makeups.
(ex of arbitrary attributed makeup: unluckily we are still all mortals)

Sébastien Chikara (Sébastien Chikara), Friday, 28 February 2003 15:57 (twenty-two years ago)

Sébastien re: making lists, I was actually asking you if making lists was one of your longevity tips?

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 28 February 2003 18:09 (twenty-two years ago)

Here is a way for americans to concretely help the advancement in medical research.
contact your elected officials to prevent a ban on therapeutic cloning.
http://www.camradvocacy.org/fastaction/takeaction.asp

Sébastien Chikara (Sébastien Chikara), Monday, 3 March 2003 15:17 (twenty-two years ago)

longevity is not necessarily what I'm after..

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 3 March 2003 19:11 (twenty-two years ago)

"Generation Everlasting" sounds good :)
The elderly are very respected in Chinese culture and this might have to be taken in account to explain why China is taking the lead when it comes at cloning research.
A collegue obsrved that now China has an aging population and the "one child" policy held for many decades means there are too few children to care for the infirmed elderly. The only solution for China is to find a way to make sure that the elderly do not become infirmed. Thus a flood of money into stem cell research.
I keep an eye on their research and depending on how things turns out in occident where the negative narratives of kass and fukuyama are widely diffused, it wouldn't be so strange for me to learn mandarain in the coming years :)

Sébastien Chikara (Sébastien Chikara), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 00:09 (twenty-two years ago)

spencer:
Sébastien re: making lists, I was actually asking you if making lists was one of your longevity tips?

ah but i thought what i answered, while reckoning ilXors jovially sarcastic take on listmaking, covered this kindof: if making lists/charts means staying in touch with the longevity field and if people can actually change the order of the lists/charts to the best of their knowledge of the said longevity field and find that it also serves as somesort of a social glue that brings dynamic optimist people together then yes making such lists/charts can help living longer.
this answer is way less gnomic isn'it? ;-)
gnomism is my hobby: I like to fold as much knowledge and cover as much ground as possible by using the least words possible but i know i still have a lot of work to do before i master this style.


(btw such a practical longevity tips chart is already up on the web but its still in the embryonic stage. I'll post the link here when it will look better)

Sébastien Chikara (Sébastien Chikara), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 01:20 (twenty-two years ago)

Dan I :
Careful about too much fluoride. Water is good!
hey thanks for the tip on fluoride: i just googled it and learned that my brand of filter remove only a trace amount of it.

On water, what I've heard of clustered water seemed intereting to deserve a critical search.
In any case according to water.com's hydratation calculator
i need 76.5 oz (7 12-oz glasses) of the stuff every day.

Sébastien Chikara (Sébastien Chikara), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 02:58 (twenty-two years ago)

one month passes...
today in google news I read that being grateful have a positive impact on longevity.

Sébastien Chikara (Sébastien Chikara), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 02:31 (twenty-two years ago)

don't eat the paint

donut bitch (donut), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 02:45 (twenty-two years ago)

I've been procrastinating for a while contacting the immortality institute about making an open source script for this longevity chart.
A web ring could be made around it so we could see how different communities think about this problem: it is most likely nutrition otakus , fitness otakus, tech otakus, gerontology doctors etc will rank tips concerning their specialty higher and this plurality of point of views would be useful to the longevity enthusiast to make-up their mind more objectively.

Sébastien Chikara (Sébastien Chikara), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 02:56 (twenty-two years ago)

on the sleep issue a request for comment was made on this thread

i suggest to go there to discuss it but here's my update anyway:

i took the longevity tips thread here at the immortality institute to see what would go down and what not.

In there, on the sleeping issue I wrote:

"also, each tip should have a space for the users to write comments and possibly to challenge it.
for an example you wrote (8+ hrs) of sleep but I've read that more than 8h could actually reduce life expectancy.
Looking for this article i found another one, a critique of this study (to be found at skepticism.net) but I'm still not sure what's best for me."


sorry for the redundancy but it is the best way to prevent future readers to get ill informed isn'it?

Sébastien Chikara (Sébastien Chikara), Tuesday, 15 April 2003 14:39 (twenty-two years ago)

...
my favorite ressource on the subject is the longevity meme.

the life extension foundation is also interesting but if one is interested in buying somehting from them i suggest to get objective information beforehand.

Sébastien Chikara (Sébastien Chikara), Saturday, 19 April 2003 22:36 (twenty-two years ago)


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