"Show me the sexiest woman on earth and I'll find you a guy who is tired of f**king her"

...er, make that "men's impulse to cheat." Sorry for the poor grammar.

If you can't be bothered to be faithful to someone, don't bother being in a relationship. If you just "gotta fuck" then go fuck yer left hand. Grrrrrrr...

I do that too but fucking chicks is better. However, this doesn't really mean I want to spend too much time with them. Really, how do you really expect a guy like me to invest a lifetime (or even a week or two) dealing with all that crap a woman like you is going to give me? Chickss, not matter how fucking hot they are gotta realize that individually, are the only game in town. It's better to move on when a woman becomes a pain in the ass because it will never get better and the sex will become less frequent. Screw that crap. There is bound to be another woman or two or three somewhere.

Peace

oops.... sorry about the typo... I meant to say: "Chicks, no matter how fucking hot they are, gotta realize that individually, are NOT the only game in town."
It still may not make any sense to you but it is definitely a maxim many guys live by but don't necessarily preach.

Yer all in unhappy or non-existent relationships so you want to take yer anger out on women in general "oh, one will never be enough for me" coz most of you would KILL to have just one.

I'd rather be alone than be in a relationship with a dick expressing the sort of attitudes on this thread. So thanks for reassuring every bad and horrible thought I've ever had towards men, it's nice to know that I was right.

that's where you are wrong. I've fucked lots of chicks. Ever have a girlfriend complain about how this guy she likes is such a tramp and is breaking her heart for sleeping around so much? Well, I'm that guy. Women like you just don't want to believe a guy like me can get laid so you can still have your fantasies about that Mr. Right who isn't there. Draw up your laundry list of qualities you want for a man. If you find him keep him. I bet he'll leave you for someone who lives in the real world.

so... I'm a troll because Kate's head is exploding?

of course the last thing men want to do is actually REPRODUCE with anyone unless it is within a loving and meaningful long-ter relationship, which is an irony so spectacular it must render my original reasoning incorrect...is this the ultimate headfuck re: men?

so i guess its more to do with the culture we live in imposing on us the ideas that our lives will be further enriched the broader and wider the range of experiences we have. this applies to women too of course. if you think about its amazing to think how anyone can love one person for a lifetime but it does happen and this is probably a good thing - after all feeling like your life is inferior to someone else's because they've slept with more people than you have is pretty dumb trivial and self-centred. but i would say that its good to experiment and take the opportunities if they present themselves when you're young ideally...the idea of settling down and sticking with one person before you're 30 seems like you're limiting yourself but if its real love then good luck to you.

I mught have read this here, but that's not the Darwinian success condition. The success condition is having as many offspring that can pass their (your) genes on => man needs to stick around for their childhood.

male urge to cheat = if 'true' possibly something to with animal instinct to reproduce as much as possible

Andrew is correct. Also, using this as a scapegoat for your loose morals/fear of commitment implies you have no control over yr instincts. Which is bullshit. Just because you have an instinct to do something doesn't mean you're a mindless automaton that has to do it.

dont quite follow WHY the male has to stick around for this reason...was just going by the majority of animal behaviour though

and i wasnt saying the 'reproduction instinct' is a valid excuse for men to 'cheat' either...obviously if you make a commitment to someone and then break it then you have 'sinned' against that person - but the real issue is whether the concept of logical right and wrong is being correctly applied to the concept of long-term relationships and love...is it LOGICAL to stick with one person for the majority of your life? maybe some reason that it is while others decide it isnt...who's right? of course a lot of people end up bemoaning the fact they dont have someone to grow old with - this becomes an issue more to do with fear of loneliness in mortality because obviously they stopped having sex years ago tho

Morally women may disapprove of it, but they still do it - and then lie about it.

i suppose theoretically i AM saying that but i'm not entirely convinced about it myself! and again i'm not saying its an excuse

i know some animals are monogamous...this is a trait in primates, who are the most like us of couse...what other animals tho?

as i said before, the real reason men and women cheat is for their own concern about their mortality and the idea we have to take risks and chances when we can to experience as much of life as possible - something thats been drummed into people inadvertently over time i would say. sex sells, infidelity and kinky sex sell even more, its almost as simple as that. maybe the older generation were more conditioned to view spending their lives with one person (regardless of how happy that person makes them) as something to count themselves lucky for, but these days everyone is more driven to get as much as possible out of life and for some that includes taking a chance and risking the destruction of your current ideal for a potentially greater one

Squirrells. The same two come back to the same tree every year and make babies.

I'm sorry I just want to look at that quote some more.

I know I've talked about my sexual adventures (too much, I expect), but I'd emphasise that I was happily faithful to one woman for decades before that, and if I found the right partner, could go back to that for the rest of my life.

What reason is that, Megan? Do you think men cheat more than women? I would guess, like Martin, that it's probably about equal by gender. Probably men (like the idiots on this thread) are just more likely to feel that they can "justify" it or something. I don't know.

Kate and Megan: there are loads and loads of men who are highly unlikely to be unfaithful, I think. If you don't make this kind of issue a priority when choosing men (and I'm talking to Kate here, because I know her and her tastes) then you can't really expect to end up with very faithful men. That's not a moral judgement at all - I do NOT mean that it serves you right! - merely a strategic one, a corollary.

I do think that men and women probably cheat on their partners on an equal level - but cheating is not justified in any case. It's a betrayal of trust, to say nothing of the health risks, emotional distress, and so forth. Why can't people just talk out this kind of stuff? I really don't understand how one could stay in a relationship where there is so little communication between the partners. If it comes to that, then why stay? (And I'm not buying all of that "security, for the kids, etc." crap - those are just excuses for not being responsible and making the easy decision instead of the more healthy decision.)

Excuse me
What?
Can I have your attention?
Mn-hmm
There's just a few things that I've got to mention (Uh-huh)
There's girlies out here that seem appealing
But they all come in your life and cold hurt your feelings
I'm telling you
As Rick is my name
I wouldn't trust not girl unless she feels the same
Treat 'em like a prostitute (Do What?)
Don't treat no girlie well until you're sure of the scoop
'Cause all they do is they hurt and trample
Listen up close, here comes my first example

Now ya been with your girlfriend for quite a while
Plans for the future, she's having your child
Celebrate with friends drinking cans and quarts
Telling all your friends about your family thoughts
One friend was drunk so he sstarts to act wild
He tells the truth about the kid
It's not your child
Acting like a jerk and on his face was a smirk
He said, "Your wife went berserk while you was hard at work"
And she led him on and tried to please him
She didn't waste time, she didn't try to tease him

Treat 'em like a prostitue (Do What?)
Don't treat no girlie well until you're sure of the scoop
'Cause all they do is they hurt and trample
Listen up close, here comes my second example

It's your wife
You buy the tramp jewels and clothes
You get sentimental and bring home a rose
Give her everything 'cause you swear she's worth it
All your friends tell you, "The bith dont' deserve it"
Love is blind, so there goes your wealth
Until one day, you see things for yourself
Came home from work early, Mr. Loverman
You had a card and some candy in your right hand
There's the mailman, he was short yet stout
He went inside your house and didn't come back out
Bust it
Just a friendly stop, come on, is it?
The mailman comes and he pays your wife a visit?
The thought alone makes your temperature boil
You say to yourself, she might still be loyal
You open up your door and stand in a trance
You see the mailman's bag and the mailman's pants
Came home to party
At work had a hard day
Look around your house and you say, "Where the hell are they?"
Run upstairs up to your bedroom
You look inside your room, you see something brewin'
Cover your mouth because you almost choke
You see the mailman's dick way up your wife's throat

Treat 'em like a prostitute (Mm-hmm)
Don't treat no girlie well until you're sure of the scoop
'Cause all they do is they hurt and trample
Listen up close, here comes my third example

Now your girl, she don't like to have sex a lot
And today she's ready and she's hot, hot, hot
As you open up the door she says, "Get on the floor"
She wants to try things she's never tried before
She takes off your drawers and works you over
She calls you Twinkles
And you call her Rover
Next thing you know, the ho starts to ill
She says, "I love you, Harold" and your name is Will
That's not the half 'til you start to ride her
Take off your rubber and there's one more inside her
It's not yours-who can it be?
I think it was a slick rapper, his name is M.C. Ricky

Treat 'em like a prostitute
Don't treat no girlie well, treat no girlie well
Treat no girlie well, until you're sure of the scoop

'no matter how hot she is there's some guy somewhere who's sick of her shit'

is a far more accurate statement, and the same thing could be said for any number of 'hot guys' or whatever. no matter how pretty or sexy or whatever you are, relationships break down. this is hardly a new concept or even so much as eye-opening. it certainly doesn't need to be said.

well until you actually do i don't think you can believe this.

Now im'a tell it like this girlfriend,
He don't love you.
Never have I seen him kiss or hug you,
He don't make effort,
He don't respect you,
Or accept you, for you.

Tells you what to wear and how to behave,
Comes in your home and treats you like his slave,
Don't need him if he make you sacrifice your freedom,
Get him out your life.

Shout and curse at you in public places,
Sleep in your house on a part time basis,
He aint even taking care of his child,
He don't make you smile.

[bridge]
I understand you love him and your down,
But that don't mean you got to be his clown.

[Chorus]
Girl, you got to put him out,
Change them locks and all that.
Girl, you got to put him out,
And this time don't take him back.
Girl, you got to put him out,
Take the time to love yourself.
Girl, you got to put him out,
You can find real love with someone else.

He don't even know how to be honest,
All he know how to do is false promise.
Any real man agree he ain't a man after
the first time that he raised his hand.

Treat your home like a hotel,
Don't pay his way,
Lost count of the times that that dog has strayed.
Sleep around,
Creep around,
Bring back disease,
What if next time it was HIV.

Four baby mummas, Eight kids and no work,
You can play strong but I know that it hurt,
You make the choices,
You gotta stop this,
Cause girlfriend,
The boy's worthless.

I understand that y'all love birds from school,
How did you get from being his girl to just bein his fool?

[Chorus x2]

Your little girl needs a daddy,
I agree,
But the fool is far from that.
Any boy can be a father,
That ain't reason enough to keep on taking him back.
He never reads with her or takes her out,
That shits called neglect you hear.
Sure she confused and tired of always seeing mummas face bruised and drowing in tears.
Look what you showin' her by lettin' him disrespect you,
You just growin' her to think that it's something that all men do.

You owe it to yourself and your daughter cause she thinks it's all alright,
When she get older,
Follow the footsteps you showed her,
How you gonna look her in the eye?