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Pretty good, pretty good:
http://www.blackpeopleloveus.com/index.html

― Scaredy Cat, Saturday, 1 March 2003 00:52 (twenty-two years ago)

I applaud fine satire as one of the relatively few ways in which people can express disgust over the status quo without appearing stupid, bitchy, or making overtures for violent confrontation. This is not fine satire. I can't even tell which party is being made fun of at times.

It's not as if anybody was particularly unaware of the fact that America is still segregated in a number of ways, or that blacks and whites in America still find it difficult at times to get along as well as they do among peers of their own shade.

Comedians, cartoonists and other clever people can write jokes about how white people and black people are different until the cows come home. It still isn't very funny to me. These are fish-in-a-barrel gags, the same kind you see on 'Def Comedy Jam' and the same kind of commentary I've grown tired of hearing from both whites and blacks who feel that they are somehow helping things by pointing out, ad infinitum, that America's racial politics are very much alive and bad.

I'm just sick and tired of it. ARRRRGH more beer.

― Millar (Millar), Saturday, 1 March 2003 01:57 (twenty-two years ago)

I thought it was a satire of certain types of "well-meaning" white people's clumsy hamfisted attempts to reconcile with their racist tendencies and not a Def Comedy Jam "white folks walk with tight asses and eat mayo and talk like dorks" schtick. But enh.

― Nate Patrin (Nate Patrin), Saturday, 1 March 2003 02:05 (twenty-two years ago)

The Def Comedy Jam schtick isn't just aimed at White People©, Nate - it takes potshots at both sides in all categories. It's one thing to laugh and joke about your ethnicity, quite another to imply via humor or any other means that ethnic differences between people are irreconcilable.

― Millar (Millar), Saturday, 1 March 2003 02:09 (twenty-two years ago)

like you can comment, patrin.

― RJG (RJG), Saturday, 1 March 2003 02:11 (twenty-two years ago)

What the fuck are you talking about?

― Nate Patrin (Nate Patrin), Saturday, 1 March 2003 02:16 (twenty-two years ago)

nate is a racist.

-- RJG (r_gillander...), February 21st, 2003 4:05 AM.
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nate is a racist.

-- Nate Patrin (natepatrin550...), February 21st, 2003 4:28 AM.
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yeah, I saw this site a while back and it wasn't really funny.

― RJG (RJG), Saturday, 1 March 2003 02:23 (twenty-two years ago)

:( = "OMG 88 SIG HILE WITE POWAR"?

― Nate Patrin (Nate Patrin), Saturday, 1 March 2003 02:27 (twenty-two years ago)

DUUUUH If you were black you'd know that

― Millar (Millar), Saturday, 1 March 2003 02:28 (twenty-two years ago)

Christ Millar this is far better than "white people drive like this..." etc.

This is positively "How High" quality, or Lenny Bruce's routine on the same subject even.

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Saturday, 1 March 2003 02:29 (twenty-two years ago)

Women be shopping!

― James Blount (James Blount), Saturday, 1 March 2003 02:32 (twenty-two years ago)

What about chicks huh? Always wearing makeup and cheating on men and waiting in huge lines to use the bathroom. What's up with that?

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Saturday, 1 March 2003 02:39 (twenty-two years ago)

I think nate meant to do this :o=(

― RJG (RJG), Saturday, 1 March 2003 02:44 (twenty-two years ago)

ha!

― James Blount (James Blount), Saturday, 1 March 2003 02:46 (twenty-two years ago)

My philtrum's not THAT big

― Nate Patrin (Nate Patrin), Saturday, 1 March 2003 02:49 (twenty-two years ago)

I was PEEING when I saw that site, largely because have had friends exactly like that.

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Saturday, 1 March 2003 02:49 (twenty-two years ago)

anyhow, I did laugh at this but I laugh at white peoples loves them some mayo humor also. Chico's my favorite Marx brother also.

― James Blount (James Blount), Saturday, 1 March 2003 02:50 (twenty-two years ago)

At this point I see fit to bring up my latest rude neologism:

BLIGGERS: Black people who attempt to impersonate black people.

― Millar (Millar), Saturday, 1 March 2003 02:57 (twenty-two years ago)

WHACKERS???

― ron (ron), Saturday, 1 March 2003 03:03 (twenty-two years ago)

I still stand by Wafrican-American.

― Curt1s St3ph3ns, Saturday, 1 March 2003 03:21 (twenty-two years ago)

Did you ever notice how black people are discriminated against? White people have an average income like this... and black people have an average income like this... What's up with that? Dude, white people and black people are so different. Like black people are always getting stopped by cops. It's so weird.

(cue laugh track)

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Saturday, 1 March 2003 04:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Sterling and Tadeusz should go on tour.

― Millar (Millar), Saturday, 1 March 2003 04:04 (twenty-two years ago)

yeah that site's doing more race relations than most essentialist crap that's out there. i was just laughing about bliggers the other night...

― Clare (not entirely unhappy), Saturday, 1 March 2003 05:40 (twenty-two years ago)

Millar, I think it's just pointing out stereotypes in general. You know that whole "media is the message" thing? Well, the fact that the site's not entirely one-sided (which side are they "making fun of") encourages thought, discussion and interaction (not to mention greater circulation throughout the web community).

I don't think they're making fun of blacks or whites at all. They are just showing how stupid stereotypes are by actually having the stereotypee say the things a stereotyper usually says.

― Scaredy Cat, Saturday, 1 March 2003 06:44 (twenty-two years ago)

Millar, I think you might be taking the testimonials the wrong way? I just cracked up over this one:

Johnny calls me "da man!" That puts me at ease. It makes me feel comfortable, because I am Black and that's how Black folks talk to one another.

(I.e., the jokes not on existing differences between black and white people -- it's on the idea that donning the most superficial, stereotyped facets of some group's behavior will somehow make them like and accept you. White people do this all the time, and it's mostly hilarious. It's equally hilarious when your middle school math teacher says "algebra is radical," as if that makes algebra cool.)

― nabisco (nabisco), Saturday, 1 March 2003 07:09 (twenty-two years ago)

But algebra is cool!

― Chris P (Chris P), Saturday, 1 March 2003 07:14 (twenty-two years ago)

I wd argue with navisco that his perception of a joke is probably a little far-fetched fm even the jokers' perspective, and that it's not the intent that counts but the overall effect in this case, but I'm fucking exhausted.

― Millar (Millar), Saturday, 1 March 2003 08:30 (twenty-two years ago)

My everyday life is being the 5 percent non-black person among a nearly entirely black community. This shit has no laugh factor involved. Give it up.

― That Girl (thatgirl), Saturday, 1 March 2003 08:35 (twenty-two years ago)

i thought it was funny, for the obvious reasons outlined upthread

― stevem (blueski), Saturday, 1 March 2003 17:28 (twenty-two years ago)

readers in the UK may have seen an episode of Model Behaviour last year featuring the prospective models at a soiree which Neil and Christine Hamilton also attended. upon meeting one of the two black contenders Mrs Hamilton was recorded saying "oh wonderful, i LOVE black people!" i just sat there with my jaw having clanged to the ground wondering how on earth someone can say something like that and seem oblivious to the absurdity of it, particularly in that context. the contestant in question appeared to take it in good humour but i'm sure they were biting their tongue at the time, either with rage or in an attempt to not burst out with laughter.

― stevem (blueski), Saturday, 1 March 2003 17:33 (twenty-two years ago)

If anyone thinks this site is offensive, you should see my White Supremacy parody site! Woo-hoo.

― Dave Fischer, Saturday, 1 March 2003 19:35 (twenty-two years ago)

I read the site the same way Nabisco did. In fact, I don't see how an intelligent, somewhat-worldly person COULDN'T read it that way.

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Saturday, 1 March 2003 20:32 (twenty-two years ago)

Nabisco and Dan, yr. so *articulate* when you explain the humor in the site. I appreciate that.

(ducks)

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Saturday, 1 March 2003 21:22 (twenty-two years ago)

funny enough. If I had more interaction with this type of people I'd find it even funnier most likely. Definitely don't know how this site could make somebody mad.

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Saturday, 1 March 2003 21:28 (twenty-two years ago)

"this type of people"=whites who try to hard

lest you think I meant something else...

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Saturday, 1 March 2003 21:29 (twenty-two years ago)

I find the linked to website amusing. That white couple have engagingly manic facial expressions, that's primarily what I like about it.

has anyone done a "White People Are Our Friends!" parody site?

― DV (dirtyvicar), Saturday, 1 March 2003 22:32 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.sharptonexplore2004.com/

― James Blount (James Blount), Sunday, 2 March 2003 10:23 (twenty-two years ago)

Well, Sterling, it's never really works to try and explain why you read a joke one way and someone else reads it another -- there's no very logical way to go about that. But I'll try anyway, by telling a story I've probably told here before:

I was one of maybe a half-dozen black kids in my middle school. One year there, I won a spelling bee. So, as these things usually go, the principal had me come up so he could give me a certificate or whatever it was one got for winning spelling bees. And, as is usually the case, he shook my hand as he gave it to me. Except: instead of shaking my hand like a normal person, he tried to give me some sort of slappy jive-turkey handshake, with lots of funky hand-flipping and all that.

The bits of the site that I found funny, I found funny in about the same way that I found the principal's handshake funny. And if I'd wanted to be really sarcastic about that handshake, I might have said something like: "It made me feel comfortable, because I am black and that's how black folks shake one another's hands!"

― nabisco (nabisco), Monday, 3 March 2003 06:21 (twenty-two years ago)

(If it wasn't obvious he shook all the other winners' hands the normal way.)

― nabisco (nabisco), Monday, 3 March 2003 06:23 (twenty-two years ago)

I thought this site was pretty funny, and am amazed that people either took it seriously or thought it was the old 'black people talk like this, white people talk like this' comedy.

― oops (Oops), Monday, 3 March 2003 16:58 (twenty-two years ago)

I thought it was f-in hilarious.

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Monday, 3 March 2003 17:13 (twenty-two years ago)

I never imagined anyone could take this site for anything but what Nabisco and Dan took it to be. That said the satire is pretty thin; I stopped laughing about a minute in.

Except: instead of shaking my hand like a normal person, he tried to give me some sort of slappy jive-turkey handshake, with lots of funky hand-flipping and all that.

An old colleague of my mother is a former '60s radical from the days when lots of white trustafarians (his dad was a bigwig at GE I believe) identified--rather perversely--with the Black Panthers, the post-Black Power NAACP, and so on. He may still think the "backs against the wall mofos" affect he adopted back then is just the thing for relating to young people of any background today, so whenever I see him he tries to give me one of those slappy jive-turkey handshakes. It's amusing and rather pathetic.

I think he'd miss the humor of this web site.

― Amateurist (amateurist), Monday, 3 March 2003 21:31 (twenty-two years ago)

Possibly part of why it's funny is that the sort of behavior being mocked isn't hugely racist or demeaning, just awkward and dumb and embarrassing for everyone involved.

― nabisco (nabisco), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 00:02 (twenty-two years ago)

nabsico: why are you trying to explain the site to me? i thort i made it clear i got & appreciated it.

or (sigh) maybe my humor gets lost.

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 04:43 (twenty-two years ago)

Wow, Amz you know Bill Ayers? That guy disusts me.

― Mr. Diamond (diamond), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 08:13 (twenty-two years ago)

er, "digusts"

One classic thing about him was that Chicago magazine (stop laughing, I only got it for restaurant reviews) did a profile on Ayers. The splash page for the feature was a big photo of him tromping an American flag. Street date for the issue? September 2001.

Anyway, yeah the patronizing white rich leftist (dunderheaded radical politics and all) is a font of humor. Richard Wright made that clear 60 years ago.

― Mr. Diamond (diamond), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 08:22 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh shit, Sterling, I'm sorry -- I somehow completely missed the "articulate" joke.

― nabisco (nabisco), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 15:09 (twenty-two years ago)

I thought ... umm, nevermind.

― nabisco (nabisco), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 15:10 (twenty-two years ago)

BAD NABISCO!

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 15:14 (twenty-two years ago)

No biscuit!

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 16:14 (twenty-two years ago)

no gravy?

― RJG (RJG), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 16:15 (twenty-two years ago)

I HATE gravy!

Please pass the strawberry jam. Thanks.

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 16:18 (twenty-two years ago)

"Wouldya please pass the JELLY?"

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 16:25 (twenty-two years ago)

I don't think yer ready for this jelly!

― Sarah McLUsky (coco), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 16:26 (twenty-two years ago)

Sarahlicious.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 16:29 (twenty-two years ago)

two years pass...

I was trying to think of how to make a "Jewish People Love Us" site, but it just doesn't have the same potential

Still, I do often wonder why so many non-Jews have felt the need to tell me "I feel more Jewish than anything else" or "I've always had a strange affinity for Judaism."

― Hurting (Hurting), Thursday, 12 May 2005 15:38 (twenty years ago)

Because people are idiots.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 12 May 2005 15:44 (twenty years ago)

Well some people.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 12 May 2005 15:44 (twenty years ago)

Some non-Jewish people anyway.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 12 May 2005 15:45 (twenty years ago)

Because it's pre-Christian, non-Christian and the origin of Christianity. and because of Kaballah, no doubt. Not because of the headgear, hairdos, food or clothes.

― Unfortunate Prankster (Unfortunate Prankster), Thursday, 12 May 2005 15:45 (twenty years ago)

I blame Madonna.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 12 May 2005 15:47 (twenty years ago)

And Jewish comedians!

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 12 May 2005 15:47 (twenty years ago)

As annoying as it must have been at the time, Nabisco's spelling bee awards story is CLASSIC! - reminds me of The Office for some reason.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 12 May 2005 15:55 (twenty years ago)

momus to thread

― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Thursday, 12 May 2005 15:58 (twenty years ago)

"jewish people love momus"

― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 12 May 2005 16:03 (twenty years ago)

"One Love!"

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 12 May 2005 16:04 (twenty years ago)

The first entry on the letters page is v. funny.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 12 May 2005 16:06 (twenty years ago)

This one?

"Unless this is in fact a joke site, I feel that you've basically eliminated all your credibility."

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 12 May 2005 16:10 (twenty years ago)

Because people are idiots.

Yes, that's the most obvious answer for everything, isn't it?

It's not as if Jews live in neighborhoods with non-Jews, or have gentile relatives or anything like that.

So knowledgeable.

― zombie vermin go home (dymaxia), Thursday, 12 May 2005 16:14 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, but still, people are idiots. That's not up for discussion.

― slightly more subdued (kenan), Thursday, 12 May 2005 16:23 (twenty years ago)

I was interested by the debate on the site about whether it was written by white people or (white and) black people, and the difference in how the audience should react to it in either circumstance. I am instinctively sure that one's reaction should be the same regardless, but I can't articulate why.

― Markelby (Mark C), Thursday, 12 May 2005 16:32 (twenty years ago)

The pictures are my favorite part:

http://www.blackpeopleloveus.com/images/notfunny.jpg

I've seen people who look and act just like this!
Astonishing!

My guess: some black folks and some white folks would react 'the same' on either side.

― zombie vermin go home (dymaxia), Thursday, 12 May 2005 16:33 (twenty years ago)

WHOOPS!! Johnny's totally stumped!!

― Fetchboy (Felcher), Thursday, 12 May 2005 17:08 (twenty years ago)

Because people are idiots.

-- Alex in SF (clobberthesauru...), May 12th, 2005.

Eh, I don't find that attitude toward judaism totally idiotic or offensive, just mildly strange. But I laugh VERY hard inside when a non-Jew tells me they really like Matzah (or gefilte fish for that matter). Chris Rock comes to mind: "Do you think chitlins were good the FIRST time black people tasted them?"

― Hurting (Hurting), Thursday, 12 May 2005 20:41 (twenty years ago)

As annoying as it must have been at the time, Nabisco's spelling bee awards story is CLASSIC! - reminds me of The Office for some reason.

-- Spencer Chow (spencercho...), May 12th, 2005.

When I was a sophomore in high school, I had a guidance counselor (who happened to be black, actually), tell me that my signature was a "disgrace," and followed that by saying "You're Jewish, aren't you? You should be proud of your heritage!"

― Hurting (Hurting), Thursday, 12 May 2005 20:43 (twenty years ago)

But, admittedly, the spelling bee story is better.

― Hurting (Hurting), Thursday, 12 May 2005 20:43 (twenty years ago)

Penmanshipism??

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 12 May 2005 21:23 (twenty years ago)

Not long I ago I blurted a bro/brah in passing to a black guy I'm friendly with and I immediately started sweating under my arms and turning red, and if that doesn't define ridiculous race paranoia I don't know what does. I was sorta surprised he didn't mock me over it, and when he didn't, I was all *OH SHIT, HE THINKS I SAID THAT TO TRY TO BE COOL WITH HIM.* And then, a second later *Did I say that to try to be cool with him? I say that shit all the time...I think...yeah of course I do. Shit dude, BE FUCKING NORMAL.*

Mitigating factor--I'm similarly insecure around white people.

― Hunter (Hunter), Thursday, 12 May 2005 21:48 (twenty years ago)

Yikes. People have so much bottled up feeling about race.

I wouldn't sweat it anyway though -- bro/bra is so integrated into white vocabulary by now that it has no racial connotations anyway.

― Hurting (Hurting), Thursday, 12 May 2005 22:09 (twenty years ago)

What would be funnier to type at this point: "God damn crackers" or "fuckin' niggers"?

I suppose "God damn crackers" because the site reflects the attitudes of a specific type of cracker"... but then the website could have been created by ... anybody. And what would be funniest if who did what?

It's kind of an in-that-ballpark kind of question. "White men can't jump" is more acceptable than "black people are genetically more suited to the game of basketball." Or was it football? (Who was that jackass sports announcer who got fired for saying something like this?)

Anyway, I saw a baboon jerk off at the zoo...

― Unfortunate Prankster (Unfortunate Prankster), Thursday, 12 May 2005 22:25 (twenty years ago)

I'm crappy at sports but I will kick your white ass.
My brother just told me he was stopped for shoplifting in Amsterdam. No, whitey, he didn't steal anything. I didn't think I could get any more angry

― Morley Timmons (Donna Brown), Friday, 13 May 2005 03:00 (twenty years ago)

― RJG (RJG), Friday, 13 May 2005 03:05 (twenty years ago)

Yes, this thread has gotten extremely "?"

― Hurting (Hurting), Friday, 13 May 2005 03:07 (twenty years ago)

It's not that "?" I was responding to the sports issue when I had acall from my little brother re: the tired shoplifting issue. Sorry to harsh your collective mellow

― Morley Timmons (Donna Brown), Friday, 13 May 2005 04:40 (twenty years ago)

"a call", obv
oh, and "sorry"

― Morley Timmons (Donna Brown), Friday, 13 May 2005 04:41 (twenty years ago)

Well, I don't know if it needs a response, but it's obviously ridiculous to say that black people are "genetically" better at basketball, or any sport. You could say that TALL people are more genetically likely to be good at sports (because the height is the direct result of certain genes), but someone having the genes that make their skin dark has nothing genetically to do with height (or basketball skill), even if the average height among black people happens to be higher.

― Hurting (Hurting), Friday, 13 May 2005 04:44 (twenty years ago)

greek people are genetically better at philosophy and poetry

― aristotle, Friday, 13 May 2005 04:49 (twenty years ago)

Hurting and Aristotle OTM

that is deprecation as self-deprecation, "check out that black rhythm, asians be some math whizzes" is often just a setup for oft-unspoken-but-no-less-insidious negative corollaries (too bad they're stupid/can't fuck etc.), which is what the website is *almost* saying but wisely doesn't(as the satire would crumble on impact).

― tremendoid (tremendoid), Friday, 13 May 2005 05:12 (twenty years ago)

"Penmanshipism??"

penupmanship

― rattanman, Friday, 13 May 2005 05:24 (twenty years ago)

two months pass...

AHHHHHHHHL;KJSDFALDFKJ my dad just found this website and cannot stop telling me to go to it! he's like "haha, black people love us dot com, so funny, so ridiculous." i guess it's a little bit funny.

― caitlin oh no (caitxa1), Thursday, 28 July 2005 22:57 (nineteen years ago)

six years pass...

Huh, Chelsea Peretti was behind this!

― Never translate Dutch (jaymc), Monday, 9 July 2012 16:43 (twelve years ago)

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