Is there American Cheese anywhere else but America?

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Hate the stuff myself, but am wondering if we Yanks are subjecting any other part of the world to evil cheese imperialism.

― teeny (teeny), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 15:53 (twenty-three years ago)

God, I hope not.

― Nicole (Nicole), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 15:56 (twenty-three years ago)

64 slices of American cheese...

― hstencil, Tuesday, 4 March 2003 15:56 (twenty-three years ago)

Thats not american cheese thats processed crap. Get the real shiznit at the deli, its tastier.

― Chris V. (Chris V), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 15:56 (twenty-three years ago)

How much cheese could a government squeeze if a government could squeeze cheese?

― No One (SiggyBaby), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 15:58 (twenty-three years ago)

American cheese = processed crap in my (deli-free) neighborhood. What do you get at the deli and is it called American cheese? (and can we eat it?)

― teeny (teeny), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 15:59 (twenty-three years ago)

In the UK, you can buy Kraft singles. But they sure don't taste the same! Same goes for Kraft Dinner. I like cheese slices in a good grilled cheese from my favourite diner back home, but that's not to say I would use it where proper cheese belongs. It's just comfort food.

I thought it was called American cheese most of the time? I mean, every diner I've been to in the US called it that when they used it in omelettes or sandwiches.

― elisabeth k, Tuesday, 4 March 2003 16:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Why would we in Blighty bother when we have Davidstow, Lancashire, Wensleydale, Appledore and many other humdingers, plus a decent selection of the best European as well?

― Lynskey (Lynskey), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 16:00 (twenty-three years ago)

The "American" cheese at Subway is white, instead of the proper orange.

― Nick A. (Nick A.), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 16:01 (twenty-three years ago)

Lynskey, you can't fool me. I've seen Monty Python, and I know none of those cheeses are ever in stock. I am a dork.

― Nick A. (Nick A.), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 16:01 (twenty-three years ago)

I am curious, does America have any indigenous styles of cheese besides pre-processed crap? Monterrey Jack?

― fletrejet, Tuesday, 4 March 2003 16:04 (twenty-three years ago)

Wisconsinites to thread!

― oops (Oops), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 16:08 (twenty-three years ago)

No grocery store in your neighborhood? they have a deli section surely?

― Chris V. (Chris V), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 16:09 (twenty-three years ago)

Native American cheese?

― hstencil, Tuesday, 4 March 2003 16:09 (twenty-three years ago)

I hate American cheese. But I love string cheese like you can get at 7-11. Mozarella I think - and you just peel it off... yum...

― Sarah Mclusky (coco), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 16:10 (twenty-three years ago)

how can anyone hate american cheese! i like all cheeses, thats why my tummy is round.

― Chris V. (Chris V), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 16:13 (twenty-three years ago)

I'm not a true American I guess.

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 16:13 (twenty-three years ago)

Try this.

An indigenous style of cheese would have to be cheese curds. Fermented chunks of cheese that have not been aged or pressed into wheels. They are eaten as fresh as you can get them and should not be refridgerated or kept. They squeak when you eat them; if they do not squeak, they are not fresh.

― No One (SiggyBaby), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 16:15 (twenty-three years ago)

morbier is good.

― Chris V. (Chris V), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 16:17 (twenty-three years ago)

Both Philadephia-style and Creole cream cheese are indigenous, I assume, by the names.

― Tep (ktepi), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 16:17 (twenty-three years ago)

what about that cheese that comes in a cup? um, wispride or something like that, is that only american?

― Chris V. (Chris V), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 16:18 (twenty-three years ago)

This thread is getting incredibly disgusting. Then again, I am a cheese snob.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 16:25 (twenty-three years ago)

From a quick Google: Colby cheese originated in Wisconsin.

Does Velveeta count as American Cheese? Processed and strange though it is, it seems better somehow.

― JuliaA (j_bdules), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 16:25 (twenty-three years ago)

From The Wisconsin Dairy Board, the following cheeses are indigenous: Cream Cheese, Colby, Brick, Monterray Jack, Farmers.

― No One (SiggyBaby), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 16:25 (twenty-three years ago)

Farmers cheese doesn't sound like something I would eat. Frumunda is good.

― Chris V. (Chris V), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 16:27 (twenty-three years ago)

Then again, I am a cheese snob.

Don't say that too fast.

― Sam (chirombo), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 16:27 (twenty-three years ago)

I love Monterray Jack.

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 16:27 (twenty-three years ago)

Farmers Cheese is similar to Havarti.

BTW, I was born in Wisconsin, where cheese is considered a vegetable.

― No One (SiggyBaby), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 16:28 (twenty-three years ago)

Gimme some of that on a cheese nip!

― Sarah McLUsky (coco), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 16:29 (twenty-three years ago)

i love mature Scottish cheddaaaarrrrr

― stevem (blueski), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 16:29 (twenty-three years ago)

Cheese.com lists cheeses originating in the US as: American, Bagere Bleue, Brick, Capriole Banon, Colby, Cold Pack, Cougar Gold, Crowley, Cypress Grove Chevre, Dry Jack, Fresh Jack, Grafton Village Cheddar, Hubbardston Blue Cow, Idaho Goatster, Maytag Blue, Monterey Jack, Monterey Jack Dry, Peekskill Pyramid, Plymouth Cheese, Shelburne Cheddar, Sonoma Jack, Swiss ("an American imitation of the Swiss Emmental"), Texas Goat Cheese, and Tillamook Cheddar.

It doesn't list an origin for cream cheese, but I can't imagine Creole cream cheese coming from anywhere but here.

― Tep (ktepi), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 16:30 (twenty-three years ago)

Oh, No One already found cream cheese, okay.

There must be more than one kind of Farmers Cheese? The kind I used to get was soft like cream cheese, usable in cheesecakes.

― Tep (ktepi), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 16:31 (twenty-three years ago)

Kraft singles are good for grilled cheese sandwiches and nothing else. mmm Canadian Cheddar, soooooo good but so bad for me.

― Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 16:32 (twenty-three years ago)

Cougar Gold - I see Mellancamp's started his own dairy brand.

― hstencil, Tuesday, 4 March 2003 16:32 (twenty-three years ago)

Idaho Goatster

I know there’s a really good joke there, but be damned if I can find it.

― No One (SiggyBaby), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 16:34 (twenty-three years ago)

Mr. Noodles speaketh the trutheth.

― oops (Oops), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 16:35 (twenty-three years ago)

(I'm still giggling at "cheese nip".)

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 16:37 (twenty-three years ago)

That was a vision.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 16:39 (twenty-three years ago)

Shut up. Cheese is serious.

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 16:40 (twenty-three years ago)

TS: Cheese nips vs cheese knobs

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 16:44 (twenty-three years ago)

What about cheesy balls?

― Madchen (Madchen), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 16:46 (twenty-three years ago)

Great, now I have an urge to somehow aquire good samples of these exotically named amercian cheeses.

American cheese (the processed stuff), by itself, is very bland with a horrible chemical/plastic off-flavour that is usually masked when combined with other food. The true role of american cheese is to add additonal grease to something when it is required.

― fletrejet, Tuesday, 4 March 2003 16:47 (twenty-three years ago)

Cheese Nips are a real thing, similar to cheeze-its. not quite as good.

― Chris V. (Chris V), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 16:50 (twenty-three years ago)

"Cheese Nips are a real thing, similar to cheeze-tits. not quite as good. "

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 16:53 (twenty-three years ago)

mmm cheeze-tits.

― Chris V. (Chris V), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 17:16 (twenty-three years ago)

cheeze-tits? Sounds the result of a messy breastfeeding episode followed by two weeks of hygiene neglect.

― oops (Oops), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 17:20 (twenty-three years ago)

disgusting

― Ed (dali), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 17:21 (twenty-three years ago)

Chris V. "Frumunda Cheese" joke = Chris V. now officially and definitively proven to be posting from early-90s middle school.

Colby's alright. We can be somewhat proud of Colby. And Monterey Jack! Cheese curds, on the other hand, are a bit silly.

― nabisco (nabisco), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 17:45 (twenty-three years ago)

I mean, eating cheese curds : eating cheese : : eating bread dough : eating bread.

― nabisco (nabisco), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 17:46 (twenty-three years ago)

cheese curds = cottage cheese? no? Cottage cheese is about the worst thing in the world. I'm not very fond of Norwegian Goat Cheese, Jetost.

― Chris V. (Chris V), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 17:51 (twenty-three years ago)

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oh, that's not the way I make Cheese on Toast. Grilled in the oven is the way I was taught!

― jel -- (jel), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 20:32 (twenty-three years ago)

Only use the grill for croque monsieur, people.

When I make grilled cheese sandwiches for the British nobody is stupid enough to call them fried cheese. Ed basically steps aside. I use all kinds of different bread depending on the level of plasticity required, but it could be anything from rye and black bread to Italian round loaves and sandwich white. I spread mayonnaise (and occasionally grain mustard) very thinly on the cheese side and then GRATE whichever harder cheese I want onto each slice, or do thin sliced brie. Soft Italian cheeses beg for tomato or prosciutto. Brie likes cooked mushrooms. Don't put additional ingredients on the frying cheese-up slices until you're about to flip, and shake a bit of pepper on. You need a very hot, solid nonstick pan and you need only butter the non-mayo side of the bread very lightly, either before laying down fillings or mixed with a very small amount of veg oil in pan to keep from burning the butter. Fry until you can see the cheese melt 1/3 of the way in, then flip one slice into the other. Flip whole sandwich every minute or so until you like the colour and you're satisfied it's all melted through. Then eat.

How To Tell If Your Landlord Is A Prole: minging sandwich toaster. Unless they are Italians who know how to make Roadkill sandwiches. Roadkill can be searched for in ILX so I don't repeat.

― suzy (suzy), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 22:11 (twenty-three years ago)

Are you accusing Ed of being a prole, Suzy? You surprise me!

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 22:15 (twenty-three years ago)

but how can you grill something in a FRYing pan???

isn't this why you have a GRILL, to GRILL things on???

mind you, this so-called grilled cheese sarnie sounds like my kind of food, although cooking it in lard would surely improve the flavour no end, mmmmm, lard...

― CarsmileSteve (CarsmileSteve), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 22:23 (twenty-three years ago)

"Grill" in this case refers to 'grills' ie diner/soda fountain flat cooking surfaces so I suppose these would be griddle cheese sandwiches really but 'grilled cheese' was what they were called on diner menus and obviously the term came home to own-kitchen use.

― suzy (suzy), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 22:28 (twenty-three years ago)

dude I want one of those George Foreman grills!

― jel -- (jel), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 22:28 (twenty-three years ago)

And ain't no minging bivalve sarnie toasters in this part of EC1, no sir (Ed cringed when he got a Foreman from some well-meaning relative at Xmas and he wants shot of it, is still in his car. In Sheffield).

― suzy (suzy), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 22:30 (twenty-three years ago)

"The "American" cheese at Subway is white, instead of the proper orange" - so is the provalone and Swiss it just comes in different shapes. Yet they have the audacity to ask you which kind you'd like.

― David Beckhouse (David Beckhouse), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 23:09 (twenty-three years ago)

I always say the round cheese. Although they all taste the same. When in doubt say "Round please, like my head."

― Carey (Carey), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 23:11 (twenty-three years ago)

I always go with the shape too, just to screw with them. To this date I don't think anyone at Subway gets it. Yeah, I know its not that funny, but I'm just getting blank stares from these folks.

― David Beckhouse (David Beckhouse), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 23:23 (twenty-three years ago)

GO HOME AMERICAN CHEESE

― RickyT (RickyT), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 23:28 (twenty-three years ago)

So, French cheese back to France etc.?

― suzy (suzy), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 23:32 (twenty-three years ago)

Its not like your frying the thing in bacon grease, as tempting as that sounds. Just cause your using a frypan don't mean your frying the poor thing.

― Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 23:46 (twenty-three years ago)

I'm pretty sure anyone I know if asked to make a grilled cheese sanger would turn on the griller (ie the thing in the stove with elements/flame you cook under), make said cheese sandwich, then grill it. So its a dry toasty cheesy thing. As opposed to frying it in a frypan with butter, or using one of those seemingly everywhere focaccia-press machines (which squash everything flat, they're useless).

Cheese on toast on the other hand... now that is tasty. But you have to use a decent melty cheese, it's horrid with kraft singles.

― Trayce (trayce), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 23:55 (twenty-three years ago)

No longer shall I step aside I've perfected my grilled cheese sandwich technique.

― Ed (dali), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 23:59 (twenty-three years ago)

The perfect side-dish for grilled cheese sandwiches has to be Cream of Tomato soup with plenty of black pepper. If you have enough sandwiches you don't even need a spoon.

― David Beckhouse (David Beckhouse), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 00:31 (twenty-three years ago)

A split pea soup soup also works wonders.
I guess it helps that a grill is what we call a broiler. Though I noticed that my bilingual stove has the French translation for broil as grill.

― Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 00:39 (twenty-three years ago)

No longer shall I step aside I've perfected my grilled cheese sandwich technique.

Reveal your secret, kitchen yoda!

― Nicole (Nicole), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 01:14 (twenty-three years ago)

i think i'm blind!

― minna (minna), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 03:59 (twenty-three years ago)

I mean, eating cheese curds : eating cheese : : eating bread dough : eating bread.
but cheese curds are just like normal cheese only without the color and they haven't been pressed into a block yet! So they're still in their natural bite-sized shapes mmm.....

― Dan I. (Dan I.), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 05:41 (twenty-three years ago)

Reveal your secret, kitchen yoda!

Don't bother asking him directly! Get Suzy and Kate to make him surrender it.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 05:49 (twenty-three years ago)

Oh yum Monterray Jack Dry [drool]

― Mary (Mary), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 07:01 (twenty-three years ago)

...and I can't believe nobody has mentioned DEEP FRIED CHEESE CURDS yet.

― suzy (suzy), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 09:41 (twenty-three years ago)

Aren't fried sandwiches what made ELVIS DIE?

― Madchen (Madchen), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 12:45 (twenty-three years ago)

Mm yes I could just do with a deep-fried squirrel & peanut butter sarnie...maybe not.

What's wrong with flattened toasted sandwiches anyway? Bacon, cheddar and mango chutney is particularly tasty in panino form. Begone, Foreman hataz, or he will grill yo' ass good, hear?

― Liz :x (Liz :x), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 12:50 (twenty-three years ago)

If you go to an American 7-11 or whatever, is processed cheese really all you can buy? Do they not have any real cheese at all?

― N. (nickdastoor), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 12:52 (twenty-three years ago)

('Is there American "cheese" anywhere else but America?')

― t\'\'t (t\'\'t), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 12:54 (twenty-three years ago)

>>If you go to an American 7-11 or whatever, is processed cheese really all you can buy? Do they not have any real cheese at all? <<

If you go to 7-11 to shop for groceries, that in itself is a huge mistake. There's nothing there that hasn't been processed (or marked up fantastically).

I remembered watching a program several years ago on CBS' Sunday Morning program featuring a distinguished American cheese taster. Doing a quick google search on it brought me to http://www.cheesesociety.org/ which in turn linked me to the person I believe to be the individual profiled and the store he runs in NYC (David Zabar, www.zabar.com). What I roughly remember of the program had him denouncing the cheese of entire countries (Sweden, for instance) while praising the American Cheese equivalent of the microbrewed beer.

-
Alan

― Alan Conceicao, Wednesday, 5 March 2003 15:40 (twenty-three years ago)

Sometimes I get a craving for the overly salty grilled cheese served at Sonic--on nice greasy white bread with slices of nasty Kraft variety cheese. YUM.

― Mandee, Wednesday, 5 March 2003 15:49 (twenty-three years ago)

I think this is my first question that's gotten over 100 answers, yay. But is it called American Cheese outside of America??

― teeny (teeny), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 15:51 (twenty-three years ago)

processed cheese slices

― Ed (dali), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 15:58 (twenty-three years ago)

The processed American Cheese is known colloquially as Single Slices where I'm from. American Cheese always called American cheddar as is not the same as Velveeta.

― suzy (suzy), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 16:04 (twenty-three years ago)

American Cheddar is different from American Cheese here in US too.

― teeny (teeny), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 16:05 (twenty-three years ago)

Do NZ and Australia have native cheeses?

― Madchen (Madchen), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 16:08 (twenty-three years ago)

Isn't Cheese Whiz American?

― A Nairn (moretap), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 16:35 (twenty-three years ago)

I thought this would be as good a time as any to voice my love of cottage cheese and farmers cheese (which i use to make the polish delight called nalasniki).

I also love a Colby/Monteray Jack blend for making Nachos!

― marianna, Wednesday, 5 March 2003 16:41 (twenty-three years ago)

Deep fried cheese curds - are those an upper Midwest thing? Because I have to go clear to Wisconsin to get those things (where they are everywhere).

― Kerry (dymaxia), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 17:15 (twenty-three years ago)

At 7-11, they sell delicious string cheese in addition to little snack-size chunks of cheddar cheese. I don't know about American cheese, I've never noticed it there.

― Nick A. (Nick A.), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 17:16 (twenty-three years ago)

A friend of mine in high school once claimed that his mother sent him to school with a sandwich that contained an individually wrapped cheese slice with the plastic accidentally left on, something he didn't notice until he started eating it.

― Rockist Scientist, Wednesday, 5 March 2003 18:33 (twenty-three years ago)

Deep-fried cheese curds = YUM

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 18:46 (twenty-three years ago)

seven years pass...

― so sick of the fucking V8 commercials (surm), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 13:58 (fifteen years ago)

first of all that picture in the opening post is not american cheese, that is Kraft. real american cheese is very different and fucking amazing.

― so sick of the fucking V8 commercials (surm), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 13:58 (fifteen years ago)

what is this real american cheese you speak of

― got you all in ♜ ♔ (dyao), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 14:07 (fifteen years ago)

kraft singles = the single grossest food ever to exist on earth

― hell hath no furry (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 14:08 (fifteen years ago)

altho i've never had spam so i might be wrong

― hell hath no furry (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 14:08 (fifteen years ago)

or vegemite

― hell hath no furry (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 14:08 (fifteen years ago)

or manwich

― so sick of the fucking V8 commercials (surm), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 14:09 (fifteen years ago)

kraft cheese, spam & vegemite = decent toasted sandwich

― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 14:09 (fifteen years ago)

holy hell

― hell hath no furry (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 14:12 (fifteen years ago)

no point wasting good quality foodstuff in a toasted sandwich imo

― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 14:13 (fifteen years ago)

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