I HATE REINSTALLING WINDOWS

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Fucking missing audio/video drivers.

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 23:50 (twenty-three years ago)

For a second I thought, "Your condo's windows keep falling out?"

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 23:53 (twenty-three years ago)

me too

― Nathan Webb (Nathan Webb), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 23:55 (twenty-three years ago)

I didn't.

― RJG (RJG), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 00:14 (twenty-three years ago)

I did for a bit, then just started thinking about the arctic fox. Now there's a beautiful animal.

― Lynskey (Lynskey), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 01:07 (twenty-three years ago)

I did for a bit, then just started thinking about the arctic fox. Now there's a beautiful animal.

this is like a bizarro inverse Dan Perry thread hijack!

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 01:09 (twenty-three years ago)

http://www.exzooberance.com/animal%20pictures/wildlife%20babies%2002/Arctic%20Fox%20159017.jpg

― Lynskey (Lynskey), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 01:25 (twenty-three years ago)

Whenever you kill an arctic fox, God reinstalls Windows

― donut bitch (donut), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 01:29 (twenty-three years ago)

i hate it too.

― ron (ron), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 02:50 (twenty-three years ago)

MM, artic foaxes are obsequieous indeed. But what of the desert fox? It has so cute ears now. I also am happy about the oarfish.

― Mike Hanle y (mike), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 03:39 (twenty-three years ago)

http://www.debian.org/

― Jon Williams (ex machina), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 03:49 (twenty-three years ago)

I just tried doing a 'stained glass' filter with photoshop on a blurry Mission of Burma photo that I was trying to salvage, but the computer is now going really slooooooooooow and looks like it will crash.

am I gonna have to reinstall windows or what????

― BurmaKitty (BurmaKitty), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 04:19 (twenty-three years ago)

Aw Lynskey, that's a great site.
http://www.exzooberance.com/animal%20pictures/wildlife%20babies%2001/Lynx%20159026.jpg

I could not find a baby picture of Erwin Rommell with the cute ears.

The oarfish is good!

http://theshadowlands.net/oarfish.jpg

― felicity (felicity), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 04:40 (twenty-three years ago)

haha this is a xander thread!

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 06:24 (twenty-three years ago)

when i'm re-installing windows...

should be a song.

you can probably find the drivers for your audio/video easily on the web... what makes are they?

― k chu, Wednesday, 5 March 2003 11:24 (twenty-three years ago)

installing linux was actually worse than windows! i was so disappointed

― ron (ron), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 16:16 (twenty-three years ago)

http://www.apple.com/

― Ed (dali), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 16:21 (twenty-three years ago)

but you only need to install linux *once*, ron

― michael (michael), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 16:24 (twenty-three years ago)

Yea, installing Linux usually installs most of your applications, too.

― Jon Williams (ex machina), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 16:34 (twenty-three years ago)

debian best flavour? why?

― Ed (dali), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 16:35 (twenty-three years ago)

Debian's package system saves you from "DLL Hell" of Windows by managing dependencies, manages configuration sanely and works really well.

― Jon Williams (ex machina), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 16:39 (twenty-three years ago)

you can probably find the drivers for your audio/video easily on the web... what makes are they?

THEREIN LIES THE PROBLEM. Stupid fucking work machine that no one has specs for.

I got the video card up (ATI Rage blah blah blah) but I'm concerned about the audio. It appears to be integrated on the motherboard and I haven't been able to check if the appropriate audio drivers were installed when I put WIN2K Server on (due to having to install approx. 8 billion things necessary for my dev env).

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 16:43 (twenty-three years ago)

I've never tried Debian, but I definitely like Gentoo's package-management system. The downside is: it recompiles everything from source at install-time, which makes installation very sloooow. It handles dependancies and multiple-versioning much better than anything else I've used, though.

― caitlin (caitlin), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 16:45 (twenty-three years ago)

fink handles my unix apps under OS X. Very simple but it too compiles all from source, but I guess it has to as I doubt many binaries are availible for the somewhat esoteric Darwin/BSD/PPC environment.

― Ed (dali), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 16:50 (twenty-three years ago)

Aw. That baby Lynx! I want one! And a baby mule deer . . .

http://www.exzooberance.com/animal%20pictures/wildlife%20babies%2002/Mule%20Deer%20159064.jpg

― Lynskey (Lynskey), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 16:52 (twenty-three years ago)

Debian has quality control and a real userbase.

God, getting Win2k Video Drivers from some machines just never happened. With Linux, everything is usually included in the OS.

― Jon Williams (ex machina), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 16:52 (twenty-three years ago)

fink never works on my computer, i always get some stupid error.

― Graham (graham), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 17:19 (twenty-three years ago)

huh?

have you followed the install instructions from the site, they are non trivial? Have you got the up to date version of the dev tools?

Are you running Virex 7.2. fink will not work with Virex 7.2.

― Ed (dali), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 17:22 (twenty-three years ago)

To get back to the important point, I think we should stop calling it an oarfish. It is its most usual name, but it is also known as the King Of The Herrings, which is a much funnier name.

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 19:16 (twenty-three years ago)

but you have to rebuild and update the kernel, right? that's where i started getting messed up. i still have a functioning install, but it's very confusing as there are scraps of three different kernels lying about. sometime i will try to figure out how to sort it, but really, since i just installed it, i'm tempted to just reformat and start from scratch.

and btw, i did try to update using the package thingy, not doing it from scratch, and it still didn't work.

i then tried to do one myself, but the kernel i ended up with has lots of problems, like it says it doesn't support ext3 file system, which doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me.

one of the advantages to windows (and mac, i'm sure) is that while it's helpful to know what you're doing, it's by no means necessary :-)

― ron (ron), Thursday, 6 March 2003 01:05 (twenty-three years ago)

What went wrong when you tried to update the kernel using rpm?

If you rebuild your own kernel from the sources, you have to be careful to read all the configuration options and make sure you have the right things supported. Using 'make menuconfig' or 'make xconfig' rather than 'make config' is always a good idea, because it's much easier to look through the available options and get an idea of what each one might enable or disable.

― caitlin (caitlin), Thursday, 6 March 2003 11:05 (twenty-three years ago)

All of the UNIX/Linux talk is making me nostalgic. I should get a Mac.

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 6 March 2003 14:07 (twenty-three years ago)

i installed the rpm, and modules i made afterwards were done for that new kernel, but if i ask it "uname" it still says the old kernel, and it won't let me use the new modules, saying "kernel-module mismatch" or some such.

i did xconfig when making the new one. i went through as carefully as i could, although admit to being slightly impatient and not knowing what most of the settings were. tried to read the help comments to guess at settings i was unsure of. some other problems i ended up with: mouse and keyboard modules not present, (agh, i don't really remember, i havent looked at it for a while)

the ext3 filesystem problem might be causing some of the others, because during the boot messages, it says "can't load" several times. (?)

― ron (ron), Thursday, 6 March 2003 15:53 (twenty-three years ago)

ron: you have to make lilo.conf use the new kernel then run lilo

― Jon Williams (ex machina), Thursday, 6 March 2003 15:56 (twenty-three years ago)

i'll have to investigate. i know i reconfigured lilo for the newest kernel. so i now have the old entry and a new one marked 'test' that has the latest kernel and all the problems. i am fairly sure i didn't mess with lilo after doing the rpm, but i think i did tinker with it a bit later on, to try to get things pointing at the rpm kernel version. i'll have a look at it sometime.

one thing i don't really understand yet is where things are pointing to the kernel yr using. is lilo the only place where you have to make changes? the sites i was reading were having me move things to new folders, rename folders, etc. - so you can keep older versions of the kernel. but the names given to the active kernel's folders seemed somewhat arbitrary ("i like to call them "....") so there must be other settings somewhere pointing at these folders, and is lilo the only place i need to change things? seems like there must be other places.

got a unix for dummies book but haven't read yet ;-)
thx

― ron (ron), Thursday, 6 March 2003 16:22 (twenty-three years ago)

eight years pass...

please coworker do not see taht I am reinstalling windows and give suggestions on how to do it

― coffeetripperspillerslyricmakeruppers (Latham Green), Monday, 13 June 2011 19:24 (fourteen years ago)

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