I'm looking for a quote and 1 hours googling hasn't found it yet

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My recollection is that it's a Black Panther quote (though looking for Huey Newton hasn't turned it up).

I kind of goes something along the lines of 'The time is coming when everyone is going to have to make a choice - you're either part of the problem, or you're part of the solution'

I could horribly mangled several quotes there, so does anyone know what quote it is I'm grasping for? TIA.

Dave B (daveb), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 11:58 (twenty-three years ago)

Apologies for the awful spelling and punctuation of the above. In a rush innit.

Dave B (daveb), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 11:59 (twenty-three years ago)

I think it was Eldridge Cleaver

David (David), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 12:13 (twenty-three years ago)

What we’re saying today is that you’re either part of the solution or you’re part of the problem.

Eldridge Cleaver (b. 1935), U.S. African–American leader, writer. Speech, 1968, San Francisco. Eldridge Cleaver, Post Prison Writings and Speeches, ed. R. Scheer (1969).

http://www.hippy.com/php/print.php?op=PrintStory&sid=209 quotes the longer:

"The struggle of our people for freedom has progressed to the form where all of us must take a stand either for or against the freedom of our people You are either with Your People or against them. You are either part of the solution or part of the problem."

though I can't verify this text elsewhere

N. (nickdastoor), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 12:16 (twenty-three years ago)

Nick there, not being part of the problem, but part of the solution.

Pete (Pete), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 12:17 (twenty-three years ago)

Cheers Pete.

I guess he used the 'part of the problem or part of the solution' thing more than once before relinquishing it to MTV:

"TO MY BLACK BROTHERS IN VIETNAM. I am the Minister of Information of the Black Panther Party, and I am speaking to you now for the Party, but I want to put a personal not into this because I know that you niggers have your minds all messed up about Black organizations, or you wouldn't be the flunkies for the White organization - the U.S. - for whom you have picked up the gun. The Black Panther Party has picked up the gun too, but not to fight against the heroic Vietnamese people, but rather to wage a war of liberation against the very same pigs who you are helping to run their vicious game on the entire world, including upon your own people. Dig it? I wonder, can you dig it?...The struggle of our people for freedom has progressed to the form where all of us must take a stand either for or against the freedom of our people. You are either with your people or against them. You are either part of the solution or part of the problem....While you are over there in Vietnam, the pigs are murdering our people, oppressing them, and the jails and prisons of America are filling up with our political prisoners. These political prisoners are your own Black Brothers and Sisters....WE appeal to you Brothers to come to the aid of your people. Either quit the army, now, or start destroying it from the inside. Anything else is a compromise and a form of treason against your own people. Stop killing the Vietnamese people. You need to start killing the racist pigs who are over there with you giving you orders. Kill General Abrahms and his staff, all his officers. Sabotage supplies and equipment, or turn them over to the Vietnamese people. Talk to the other Brothers and wake them up....The Black Panther Party call fro freedom and liberation in our life time, because we want to leave behind us a decent world for our children to grow up in. Let's turn 1970 into a year in which our people make a heroic drive for freedom and liberation. ALL POWER TO THE PEOPLE."

- Eldridge Clever, Black Panther leader

(From an article entitled "To My Black Brothers in Vietnam", in The Black Panther, 1970)

http://www.hcps-socialstudies.org/AAClev.htm

N. (nickdastoor), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 12:19 (twenty-three years ago)

Anything to do with football against racism day, Dave?

Dr. C (Dr. C), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 12:46 (twenty-three years ago)

Nah - want a kick ass quote to ram up the jacksy of the having your cake and eating it Pompey fans who went to Selhurst last night.

Got sick of them saying 'we really support you in what you're doing, but we have to go and watch our team play really.'

Many thanks to those with better memories and googling skills than my own.

Dave B (daveb), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 13:16 (twenty-three years ago)

The quote is from the MC5 album "Kick Out The Jams".

DV (dirtyvicar), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 15:13 (twenty-three years ago)

I thought it was judge joe brown that originated the original quote.

RJG (RJG), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 15:15 (twenty-three years ago)

The first Black Panther quote I thought of was that brilliant bit where Steve Englehart parodies Don McGregor's style.

Yes, I'm ashamed.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 19:37 (twenty-three years ago)

You're either part of the solution, or you're part of the precipitate.

Dave Fischer, Wednesday, 5 March 2003 23:18 (twenty-three years ago)

Try contacting Bobby Seale at: seale@bobbyseale.com or ReachSeale@msn.com

jethro (jethro), Thursday, 6 March 2003 01:17 (twenty-three years ago)

woops... the second e-mail address for Bobby Seal should be ReachBS@msn.com

anyway:
"The struggle of our people for freedom has progressed to the form where all of us must take a stand either for or against the freedom of our people You are either with Your People or against them. You are either part of the solution or part of the problem."
- Eldridge Cleaver

jethro (jethro), Thursday, 6 March 2003 01:22 (twenty-three years ago)

This is from Die Hard when John McClane starts talking to the FBI. But he may have nicked it from Eldridge Cleaver.

SittingPretty (sittingpretty), Thursday, 6 March 2003 10:58 (twenty-three years ago)


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