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I went to Catholic school for 9 years (I'm not Catholic) and they made a big deal out of Lent (obviously). Let's talk about Lent.

Ashes on forehead = gross.

Jon Williams (ex machina), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 15:01 (twenty-three years ago)

asses on forehead=cool.

Chris V. (Chris V), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 15:04 (twenty-three years ago)

Sit on my face and tell me that you love me.
I'll sit on your face and tell you I love you, too.
I love to hear you oralise
When I'm between your thighs.
You blow me away!

Sit on my face and let my lips embrace you.
I'll sit on your face, and then I'll love you truly.
Life can be fine if we both sixty-nine
If we sit on our faces in all sorts of places and play
Till we're blown away!

Jon Williams (ex machina), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 15:06 (twenty-three years ago)

Christian! dost thou see them

On the holy ground,

How the troops of Midian

Prowl and prowl around?

Christian! up and smite them,

Counting gain but loss:

Smite them by the merit

Of the Holy Cross!

Christian! dost thou feel them,

How they work within,

Striving, tempting, luring,

Goading into sin?

Christian! never tremble!

Never be down-cast!

Smite them by the virtue

Of the Lenten Fast!

MarkH (MarkH), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 15:09 (twenty-three years ago)

An excuse for giving up something that you wouldn't otherwise = good, depending.

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 15:10 (twenty-three years ago)

I never try to give up anything for Lent, btw. I have zero will-power.

MarkH (MarkH), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 15:12 (twenty-three years ago)

I thought it was funny that it was a big deal to not eat Bird/Mammal meat on fridays.... Whoop de doo!

Jon Williams (ex machina), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 15:15 (twenty-three years ago)

For lent, I have been giving up all meat for almost 10 years now. I am SUCH a good Christian.

Sarah McLusky (coco), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 15:18 (twenty-three years ago)

Thanks for the reminder... I always forget about Lent and when I see someone with ashes on their forehead I want to say, "Seriously dude... you have some dirt on your face."

Aaron W (Aaron W), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 15:25 (twenty-three years ago)

The supreme challenge would probably be me giving up the Internet for Lent. Argh...

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 15:27 (twenty-three years ago)

But lamb is a perfectly fine Christian food.
The tagline I thought was to give up meat throughout Lent and to have fish on Fridays.

Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 16:11 (twenty-three years ago)

Fish on fridays is the reason why an island race like the Irish aren't really into fish in a big way. Decades of it being associated with penance have given it a bad rep. At least all has changed now, changed utterly..
I always viewed Lent as so negative - it would be better to take on something (charity work, flagellation, doign a daily good deed etc.) than cast something off.
Of course, I have Lent to thank for not taking sugar in my tea for the past 20 years so it can't be all bad...

Minky Starshine (Minky Starshine), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 16:22 (twenty-three years ago)

I always forget about Lent and when I see someone with ashes on their forehead I want to say, "Seriously dude... you have some dirt on your face."
ha ha.... (nervous laughter) Yeah, I really did this my freshman year of college. My new roommate was(is) catholic and I saw her with ashes on her head... Thankfully, she thought I was just kidding around.

Sarah Mclusky (coco), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 16:24 (twenty-three years ago)

I am not giving up anything this year, but trying to incorprate daily prayer, and a certain mindfullness that comes from that prayer into my daily routines.

anthony easton (anthony), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 17:04 (twenty-three years ago)

Anthony, as a completely religious person, can you tell me how prayer introduces mindfulness into daily life? I just don't get it.

chris (chris), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 17:05 (twenty-three years ago)

that should have been un-religious!! eep.

chris (chris), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 17:06 (twenty-three years ago)

because i need to spend time alone, quietly. I have to sit and think of what i did wrong, and what i need to do to make it better. It requires a sense of calm, something that my chaotic life needs, and something that i hope peremates.

anthony easton (anthony), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 17:07 (twenty-three years ago)

ok, but that doesn't necessarily mean praying does it? more like contemplation or meditation??

I think I need prayer explaining to me, but I do think I'll never get it.

chris (chris), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 17:09 (twenty-three years ago)

What do you assume prayer is ?
It is of course, a direct communcation with god, ut in a dark chapel at 7 in the morning, the rosary slipping through yr hands, stumbling for the words, its more medatitive, more contemplative.

the communcation then is not as important as the process.

anthony easton (anthony), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 17:13 (twenty-three years ago)

Speaking of prayer...

A week or so ago, my youngest sister (the one with the horrible eating disorder/suicidal thoughts I keep talking about) came up to me and said, "Sarah, I know you are not a very religious person, but if you do decide to pray, could you please pray for me? I really need your help right now."

I said I would, but I haven't. I don't know. I want her to get better, but I feel odd praying.

Sarah McLusky (coco), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 17:13 (twenty-three years ago)

people ask me to pray for them all the time, it doesnt mean you have to get down on yr knees and mention a list of names.

keep them in mind, think of them, be mindful.

anthony easton (anthony), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 17:18 (twenty-three years ago)

Thanks, Anthony. I do that.

Do you ever pray by thinking in your head, "Dear God... (or Jesus)...Amen..."?

Sarah McLusky (coco), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 17:20 (twenty-three years ago)

thta's the question I was trying to ask!

chris (chris), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 17:24 (twenty-three years ago)

all the time.
i also, when i get nervous and paranoid pray the our father, so im praying four times a day.

thats perfect, prayer does not have to be elebarote or ritualized, it can be as silent and personal as that.

anthony easton (anthony), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 17:24 (twenty-three years ago)

I agree with Anthony. There's all sorts of ritualized stuff, but if you're praying in a certain way because you feel you're supposed to, that seems rather dud. Whatever seems meaningful or feels right seems like a more authentic way to pray.

I feel like a spiritual slacker sometimes for often not praying in a ritualized way, but the simple offering up of intentions is enough for me usually. Just--hey God, could you look out for so-and-so? Thanks.

I just got the ashes and such and was given a choice: either "thou art dust", or "stay away from sin and (something about following the gospel, God bless you sorta thing)". (two different things they can say as they're ashing your forehead). Though it's not the actual implication, "thou art dust" just sounds kinda like a religious way of saying "you suck".

JuliaA (j_bdules), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 17:54 (twenty-three years ago)

in Ireland you are allowed break your Lenten fast on St. Patrick's Day.

does this apply in other Catholic countries?

DV (dirtyvicar), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 19:20 (twenty-three years ago)

Ashes on forehead = good.

I don't believe we get a get out of Lent free pass with St. Patty's Day, but I could be wrong.

Mary (Mary), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 23:28 (twenty-three years ago)

i got dust to dust, i love that one, because it reminds me of how small i am and how humble. and then i walked into the newspaper, and someone said you have newsprint on yr forehead.

anthony easton (anthony), Thursday, 6 March 2003 00:41 (twenty-three years ago)

one year passes...
Right, I am currently stuffing my face with chocolate in an attempt to make me sick of it before I give it up tomorrow. So far, I have had a caramel shortcake square, a hot chocolate and a Creme Egg, a Quality Street and a Roses. It must be working, because now I want nothing more than a packet of Quavers. What is the rest of ILX giving up this year?

Madchen (Madchen), Tuesday, 8 February 2005 15:22 (twenty-one years ago)

my flatmate is giving up sweets/cakes/biscuits, so to make things as easy as possible for her i'm going to as well (hopefully not that hard bcz i don't have much of a sweet tooth). she said that she was thinking about swearing off booze, but i pointed out that we're going to glasgow in a week and a half. now we're both wondering if buckfast counts as a sweet.

lauren (laurenp), Tuesday, 8 February 2005 15:28 (twenty-one years ago)

selfloathing

Jarlr'mai (jarlrmai), Tuesday, 8 February 2005 15:32 (twenty-one years ago)

bet I fuck it up though

Jarlr'mai (jarlrmai), Tuesday, 8 February 2005 15:32 (twenty-one years ago)

If you drink Buckfast, I'm not talking to you.

Madchen (Madchen), Tuesday, 8 February 2005 15:51 (twenty-one years ago)

i'll save it for the ride back to london, then.

lauren (laurenp), Tuesday, 8 February 2005 15:57 (twenty-one years ago)

Are you going back by National Express? If yes, you'll need it.

Madchen (Madchen), Tuesday, 8 February 2005 16:07 (twenty-one years ago)

what's up with people actually practising Lent? i guess if there's anything i should be giving up it should be ILX

Alienus Quam Reproba (blueski), Tuesday, 8 February 2005 16:08 (twenty-one years ago)

i am reordering my life, going on disability, figuring out if i can go to the uk, getting some emergency job, and going back to TO at the end of it.

i hope

anthony, Tuesday, 8 February 2005 17:41 (twenty-one years ago)

UK U&K!

Madchen (Madchen), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 09:53 (twenty-one years ago)

I've just given up weed for Lent

Johnney B (Johnney B), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 09:56 (twenty-one years ago)

I read recently that technically you don't have to stick to your Lent rules on Sundays if you don't want to - although Lent's supposedly 40 days long, it's *actually* 46 days from Ash Wednesday to Easter because the Sundays don't count.

caitlin (caitlin), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 10:59 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeh, I saw that on Wikipedia. At least I can have a smoke on Sundays, and people can gouge themselves with chocolate, and job's a good 'un!

Johnney B (Johnney B), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 11:11 (twenty-one years ago)

i love that technicalilty.

when i used to stay out at till 2am on saturdays, i'd save up all my drinking for between 12midnight and 2am sunday

jellybean (jellybean), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 12:24 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm never giving up anything for lent ever again.

Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 12:35 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm not going to give up anything this year. However, the year that I gave up alcohol for 46 days really helped me out in the long run.

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 17:09 (twenty-one years ago)

one year passes...
I thought it was funny that it was a big deal to not eat Bird/Mammal meat on fridays

Jon, you went to a pretty anachronistic school, cuz the Pope took that Fridaymeat thing off the books BEFORE even my years of juvenile nun-dodging.

Giving up drinking for Lent would really make for a nice Moving Fund, but I dunno, it's one of my few social pleasures left.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 20:19 (twenty years ago)

oh, duhhhh ... except during LENT, the Friday thing is in effect. I am a sieve. (But fasting, I'm pretty sure, has become optional or at least filled with loopholes.)

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 1 March 2006 15:56 (twenty years ago)

I'm giving up cheese. Obv. now I am craving cheese.

Anna (Anna), Wednesday, 1 March 2006 16:24 (twenty years ago)

Christian! dost thou see them

On the holy ground,

How the troops of Midian

Prowl and prowl around?

Christian! up and smite them,

Counting gain but loss:

Smite them by the merit

Of the Holy Cross!

Christian! dost thou feel them,

How they work within,

Striving, tempting, luring,

Goading into sin?

Christian! never tremble!

Never be down-cast!

Smite them by the virtue

Of the Lenten Fast!

-- MarkH (mark_e_heste...) (webmail), March 5th, 2003 10:09 AM. (MarkH) (link)

OK was I supposed to read 90% of this to the tune of "Our Lips Are Sealed"???????

Allyzay Rofflesberger (allyzay), Wednesday, 1 March 2006 16:33 (twenty years ago)

two weeks pass...
gave up alcohol for Lent this year, despite lack of willpower claims above. Standard non-alky alternative in the pub is lime and soda, occasionally blckcurrant and soda and I am saving so much money, which is useful as I have just bought a flat. There is a £10 bet riding on my abstinence with my mate Phil, who doesn't think I can make it through. If I do however, he says he'll pay me in beer (which is about 4 pints by my estimation!)

MarkH (MarkH), Saturday, 18 March 2006 09:47 (twenty years ago)

three weeks pass...
it's nearly over! how did you do? mine has been v easy and successful (no bouze or crisps, except on sundays as i am not doing it for religious reasons, and i am allowed to swap a sunday for a monday or saturday or whatever as i see fit). in germany i broke the rule to let myself drink some of their gorgeous dark beers, but i'm satisfied that that was a rational decision and i would be pissed off with myself if i'd come home without drinking any. also i needed a place to work alone sometimes when i was there and as it would be evening and there would be someone in my hotel room watching hollywood blockbusters dubbed into german and i am poor, that place kind of had to be a bar. a few weeks ago on a monday i completely forgot i was doing it and accidently went to the pub with e&k which was a bit annoying, but i counted it as the next sunday - this effectively means the longest unbroken time i abstained was two weeks and it has not been difficult. am i purer? i doubt it. do i feel physically/mentally better? not that i've noticed. am i richer? not really. have i learned anything? not really.

but i am a bit confused because it should be REALLY over. i thought it was forty days and forty nights, but today is the forty-second and apparently it doesn't finish until sunday! bah! can christians not count? bbc has this to say which makes no mention of sub-par numeracy skillz in believers.

Lent
1 March 2006

Lent is the period of forty days which comes before Easter in the Christian calendar. Beginning on Ash Wednesday, Lent is a season of reflection and preparation before the celebrations of Easter. By observing the forty days of Lent, Christians replicate Jesus Christ's sacrifice and withdrawal into the desert for forty days. Lent is marked by fasting, both from food and festivities.

SO HOW COME IT IS ACTUALLY FORTY-FOUR DAYS, MOFOS?

emsk ( emsk), Thursday, 13 April 2006 09:52 (twenty years ago)

No Sundays, which is embarrasing for me as I claimed otherwise several times. So Ash Wednesday-Easter Sunday = forty-six days, but take off six for the Sundays. I think the theory is that Sundays were originally miserable enough.

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Thursday, 13 April 2006 09:57 (twenty years ago)

He didn't actually do the 40 days before easter, it was before he went into the preaching business.

Oh, it's all completely mental:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lent

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Thursday, 13 April 2006 09:59 (twenty years ago)

I still don't get why people who don't go to church observe Lent. I suppose it's like New Year's Resolutions.

Konal Doddz (blueski), Thursday, 13 April 2006 10:16 (twenty years ago)

i'm not remotely religious and have never done it before. for me it was half solidarity and half that i've never given anything up before (except meat and that doesn't really count as i didn't much like it anyway) and thought maybe i should, to see what happens.

emsk ( emsk), Thursday, 13 April 2006 10:24 (twenty years ago)

am i richer? not really.

(Grumbles about the price of Blackcurrant & water in bars/pubs/venues)

do i feel physically/mentally better? not that i've noticed

Obviously your hangovers during this period have been cut to 0. Did you suffer from them much before? I'd have assumed that your famous cut-off where you sleep off the booze past a certain point whatever's happening would act as a throttle, plus you're in good shape generally.

have i learned anything? not really.

You've learned that you can. Tho this is obviously a rubbish reason in and of itself.

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Thursday, 13 April 2006 11:08 (twenty years ago)

nah i'm am the no-hangover QUEEN. although after this period of abstinence, perhaps this won't be the case any more. i have never had one, always thinking that i'll hit 30 or whatever and get the cumulative effect of every drink i've ever drunk and be in bed for 2 years.

emsk ( emsk), Thursday, 13 April 2006 11:13 (twenty years ago)

one year passes...

What are we giving up this year?

I'm thinking of something practical, not too difficult. 40 days and nights without a single potato chip. Or maybe, no more orange popsicles.

kenan, Tuesday, 5 February 2008 18:15 (eighteen years ago)

My best friend in junior high gave up listening to her favorite band, the Beatles.

Abbott, Tuesday, 5 February 2008 18:26 (eighteen years ago)

my life is bereft enough w/out any sacrifice at this time.

Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 5 February 2008 18:27 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah, seriously. Here, watch: I'll give up sex.

Laurel, Tuesday, 5 February 2008 18:31 (eighteen years ago)

I will not give up sex. Not for God, not for anybody.

kenan, Tuesday, 5 February 2008 18:39 (eighteen years ago)

I'm giving up!

jel --, Tuesday, 5 February 2008 18:40 (eighteen years ago)

Just generally, I mean. Not in a depressing emo boo hoo way. Just giving up.

jel --, Tuesday, 5 February 2008 18:41 (eighteen years ago)

It'll be liberating.

jel --, Tuesday, 5 February 2008 18:41 (eighteen years ago)

If you are ever going to get a hickey on your forehead, Fat Tuesday is the night to do it.

Abbott, Tuesday, 5 February 2008 18:42 (eighteen years ago)

You know what I'm doing right now to celebrate mardis gras? You guess it -- orange popsicle. Now this is decadent.

kenan, Tuesday, 5 February 2008 18:43 (eighteen years ago)

Carbonated beverages, I think. Tonic and soda water are still allowed.

kate78, Tuesday, 5 February 2008 18:44 (eighteen years ago)

i am giving up artificial sweeteners for lent which means tonight i am going to binge on sweet n low

homosexual II, Tuesday, 5 February 2008 18:46 (eighteen years ago)

one year passes...

im giving up something

Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 25 February 2009 14:43 (seventeen years ago)

i'm giving up sweets, crisps and alcohol.

Plaxico (I know, right?), Monday, 2 March 2009 20:10 (seventeen years ago)

I didn't have any pancakes so don't feel that I should give up anything. Sorry God, I know this isn't how it works...

jel --, Monday, 2 March 2009 20:13 (seventeen years ago)

I had a conversation with a girl who said I was crazy to insist that it wasn't "pointless" observing lent when you're not religious. You observe Christmas don't you?

Plaxico (I know, right?), Monday, 2 March 2009 20:14 (seventeen years ago)

i am going to try to give up stress!

yur twit (tehresa), Monday, 2 March 2009 20:16 (seventeen years ago)

ok i'm not really giving up anything i don't subscribe to any religions.

yur twit (tehresa), Monday, 2 March 2009 20:16 (seventeen years ago)

but i might give up stress for myself!

yur twit (tehresa), Monday, 2 March 2009 20:17 (seventeen years ago)

Well yeah, there's nothing wrong with giving something up for a while, it might have some positive effect. Oh, I think I'll give up chocolate, starting tomorrow. Though, only chocolate bars, cakes that contain chocolate and hot chocolate are fine.

jel --, Monday, 2 March 2009 20:18 (seventeen years ago)

^^^grey area

Plaxico (I know, right?), Tuesday, 3 March 2009 01:42 (seventeen years ago)

seeing as i'm in the throes of some horrible flu-strep thing i think it may be the perfect time to give up cigarettes

i'm not going to pay a lot for this muffler (elmo argonaut), Tuesday, 3 March 2009 01:44 (seventeen years ago)

Lent is great because it trades on guilt and piety which are basically the best.

Plaxico (I know, right?), Tuesday, 3 March 2009 01:50 (seventeen years ago)

eleven months pass...

im giving up something

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we like the cars. the cars that go burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb. (los blue jeans), Thursday, 18 February 2010 22:07 (sixteen years ago)

forgot to pick something this year. My life's getting pretty ascetic anyway. For me.

Fusty Moralizer (Dr Morbius), Friday, 19 February 2010 00:03 (sixteen years ago)

one year passes...

it's back

kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 9 March 2011 16:30 (fifteen years ago)

and Morbs has got him.

Rich Lolwry (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 9 March 2011 16:32 (fifteen years ago)

I want to give something up, but I don't know what. Two years ago I gave up clothes shopping, but I can't do that this year (I "need" too much stuff).

Virginia Plain, Wednesday, 9 March 2011 16:43 (fifteen years ago)

i've gone vegan for lent for like the fourth year running and have already managed to fail at it (was given a cookie, therefore obviously had to eat it).

HI DEGGERE (c sharp major), Wednesday, 9 March 2011 23:02 (fifteen years ago)

i forgot it was ash wednesday. i ate meat. ive decided not to give anything up. pretty sure the big man will be more pissed off at me not believing in him tho.

À la recherche du temps Pardew (jim in glasgow), Wednesday, 9 March 2011 23:05 (fifteen years ago)

i've just spent 5 minutes racking my brains to figure out what about cookies is non-vegan - um, eggs?

said this elsewhere today but i don't get why non-xtians "do" lent - like, you know we don't have to, right? that is one of the benefits about not being a xtian. i'm not giving shit up.

pretty sure the big man will be more pissed off at me not believing in him tho.

also this lol

lex pretend, Wednesday, 9 March 2011 23:10 (fifteen years ago)

in fact if there was anything i needed to cut out of my life i'd almost feel honour-bound to wait until after lent to do it (luckily in such a scenario i'd probably already have done it, as these things are so much more effective if made without arbitrary cultural/religious prompts)

lex pretend, Wednesday, 9 March 2011 23:11 (fifteen years ago)


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