Girls Who Smoke - Classic or Dud

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I find girls who smoke very sexy. Something about it that attracts me. Does anyone else feel the same way? Or am I just 'mad'!

― S Samson, Wednesday, 5 March 2003 17:20 (twenty-two years ago)

Aah, smoking's cool. tah.

― Graham (graham), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 17:24 (twenty-two years ago)

Dud, if you have to kiss them.

― Ed (dali), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 17:24 (twenty-two years ago)

Dud. Hacking coughs and wrinkled skin SOOOO not a good look.

― kate, Wednesday, 5 March 2003 17:24 (twenty-two years ago)

i find it sexy too. i'm an ex-smoker and i'm still drawn to it. perhaps it's the oral fixation thing.

― dyson (dyson), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 17:26 (twenty-two years ago)

Generally speaking, dud. There are a couple of exceptions.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 17:29 (twenty-two years ago)

I don't know about that but I find that it's just sexy. It's what attracted me to my wife. It's devil may care attitude!! Very hot!

― S Samson, Wednesday, 5 March 2003 17:29 (twenty-two years ago)

Dud dud dud dud dud. It amazes me there are some girls who think it looks sexy. madness.

― Mark C (Mark C), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 17:30 (twenty-two years ago)

the thing about this is that it mostly depends on if the admirer smokes or not, doesn't it? for me, girls who smoke are girls who won't give me shit about smoking. and when i quit, it wont matter that much.

― Aaron Grossman (aajjgg), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 17:31 (twenty-two years ago)

Maybe it madness because of fiends like me! But I find it sexy and rebellious. Me? I don't smoke. Interferes with my morning jogs.

― S Samson, Wednesday, 5 March 2003 17:33 (twenty-two years ago)

Smoking fetish websites are much more popular in America than anywhere else, probably cos it's more taboo there.

― Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 17:34 (twenty-two years ago)

I thought we had a picture thread of girls smoking, but I must have been thinking of the girls with guns thread. Oh, silly me.

Girls smoking in their 20s - can be fairly cute, but sometimes just looks like they're trying to fit in.

Girls in their 50s who have been smoking their entire lives - YIKES!!!

― Sarah Hotnights (coco), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 17:35 (twenty-two years ago)

Well, I would not say that it was a fetish! You Brits and your fetishes! : - D

― S Samson, Wednesday, 5 March 2003 17:35 (twenty-two years ago)

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 17:35 (twenty-two years ago)

Smoking is taboo here? Maybe in LA and some upsale restaurants, but I think that's about it.

― Sarah McL (coco), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 17:35 (twenty-two years ago)

I wasnt saying you had the fetish but the fetish does exist, oh yes.

Sarah - ah well then it's inexplicable.

― Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 17:36 (twenty-two years ago)

Depends on the girl.

― hstencil, Wednesday, 5 March 2003 17:36 (twenty-two years ago)

actaully it depends on the way they hold their cigarette.

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 17:38 (twenty-two years ago)

Smoking is Taboo is Beantown too. My wife just quit, I never found it attractive that she smoked even though I did too. She made funny faces when she smoked.

― Chris V. (Chris V), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 17:39 (twenty-two years ago)

classic. it's not like i have a fetish about it though.

― toby (tsg20), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 17:39 (twenty-two years ago)

I like stinky people and therefore find girls who smoke very attractive.

― DV (dirtyvicar), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 17:40 (twenty-two years ago)

Dud, ceteris paribus.

― Rockist Scientist, Wednesday, 5 March 2003 17:40 (twenty-two years ago)

Fucking classic. Esp. girls who leave lippy on white-tips.

― SittingPretty (sittingpretty), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 17:42 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.baggyboxers.com/halloween/stall.jpg

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 17:42 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.no-smoke.org/images/ads/02_Bob_14x48.jpg

― Sarah McLUsky (coco), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 17:43 (twenty-two years ago)

i think i know those girls.

― gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 17:44 (twenty-two years ago)

Honestly, smoking is a bit of a dud in anyone of any gender.

― sundar subramanian (sundar), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 17:46 (twenty-two years ago)

big dud.

― mitch lastnamewithheld (mitchlnw), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 17:47 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeah, gygax!, I'm not normally attracted to girls, but those 2 on the horses are alright.

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 17:47 (twenty-two years ago)

never really thought about it. cigarette smoke is fairly horrible.

― jel -- (jel), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 17:48 (twenty-two years ago)

seriously, i know a couple of girls who look like those guys (they were cowboy hats too).

― gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 17:52 (twenty-two years ago)

Like Ned, Dud with exceptions.

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 17:56 (twenty-two years ago)

to answer the question, i think i used to when i was younger, but let me qualify this:

when i was 13-17 (well... just say until 17), i was attracted "bad girls"/troublemakers/rebels. more often than not, these girls smoked.

when everyone turned 18, smoking wasn't as rebellious because it was legal. but i think that the fact that the my "coming of age" may have been affected by images of girls that i was involved with smoking was part of my sexual identity.

flashforward to today.

hstencil is on to something when he says "depends on the girl". smoking will never make someone look more attractive in my eyes. if i find you attractive, it doesn't matter what you do, it's something greater than a bad habit.

that said, i don't smoke and i think cigarette breath and the side-effects of smoking are definitely not attractive. but i'm at the open-minded point in my life and overlook some things for the short-term.

― gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 18:08 (twenty-two years ago)

Now, girls drinking pints on the other hand.

― Cozen (Cozen), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 18:20 (twenty-two years ago)

Couldn;t care less for any visual effect, but the stench and the occasional nic fit it will induce in me makes it a major DUD. And kissing a mouth that tastse and smells like an ashtray ain't too hot.

― Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 18:27 (twenty-two years ago)

I know I have to give up smoking but I'm not looking forward to it. I'm also sad that cigarette advertising has now been banned in the UK. I could never understand why someone didn't think of putting a big sign on the side of a bus saying "'Ere, you could get hit by this tomorrow! Go on, have a fag".

― SittingPretty (sittingpretty), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 18:29 (twenty-two years ago)

It's not only very sexy (on boys as well as girls), it's big and clever. Coughing and wheezing isn't, but I have managed to keep up my level of those despite giving up smoking 15 months back. Best of both worlds!

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 19:18 (twenty-two years ago)

The effects of smoking are totally yucky yet people who smoke can be so attractive.

― rosemary (rosemary), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 19:22 (twenty-two years ago)

total dud...smoking is for idiots

― jack (sweatypalms1234), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 19:40 (twenty-two years ago)

This is one of the worst problems with DDB's, is they tend to smoke and this makes them taste and smell bad. DDB's should smell of sweat and pheremones and, erm, dirt. Not smoke and ashes. ick. This was part of the appeal of Whoreton - the rare DDB who didn't smoke. :-(

― kate, Wednesday, 5 March 2003 19:44 (twenty-two years ago)

kate are you forgetting inscence or are DDBs different in the UK?

― Aaron Grossman (aajjgg), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 19:46 (twenty-two years ago)

Pachouli

― Ed (dali), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 19:47 (twenty-two years ago)

Of course I didn't forget patchouli, Ed, considering that you had to open my new bottle! Either that or a hint of Nag Champra. (sp?)

Patchouli = smell of hippie or smell of goth.

Goth + Hippie = DIRTY DRONEROCK BOY/GIRL!!!

Glad we've figured that one out.

― kate, Wednesday, 5 March 2003 19:50 (twenty-two years ago)

People who use such phrases as "smoking is for idiots": resounding dud.
People who smoke: I couldn't care less. Except that there seems to be a certain correlation between skinniness and smoking... (fat appreciation or the lack thereof revealed as the basis of all aesthetic debates on ilx. Shocker!)

― -M, Wednesday, 5 March 2003 19:51 (twenty-two years ago)

I smoke and I'm still fat. :(

― Amateurist (amateurist), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 19:54 (twenty-two years ago)

One great thing about a girl who smoke is you know she isn't going to be VEHEMENTLY ANTI-SMOKING which is perhaps the greatest dud of all.

― Aaron A., Wednesday, 5 March 2003 19:54 (twenty-two years ago)

totally classic esp when chewing gum and standing with one hand on hip in a striped t-shirt

― schnell schnell, Wednesday, 5 March 2003 20:14 (twenty-two years ago)

Chewing gum while smoking - is this common practice?

― Sarah McLUsky (coco), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 20:14 (twenty-two years ago)

Nicotene gum, clearly, for maximum wiredness.

― kate, Wednesday, 5 March 2003 20:17 (twenty-two years ago)

Or wierdness, if you are Whoreton.

― kate, Wednesday, 5 March 2003 20:21 (twenty-two years ago)

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The only thing worse than addiction is denial.

― kate, Thursday, 6 March 2003 15:34 (twenty-two years ago)

I think this, from Barthelme's 'Visitors', is one of the most romantic passages in all literature!

Standing behind Malcolm is a beautiful young woman.
"This is Christie," Malcolm says. "We've just given her lunch. We've just eaten all the dim sum in the world."
Bishop is immediately seized by a desire to cook for Christie-either his Eight-Bean Soup or his Crash Cassoulet.
She's telling him something about her windows.
"I don't care but why under my windows?"
She's wearing a purple shirt and is deeply tanned with black hair-looks like an Indian, in fact, the one who sells Mazola on TV.
Harry is still talking about the new president. "I mean he did his dissertation on bathing trends."
"Well maybe he knows where the big bucks are."
There's some leftover duck in the refrigerator he can use for the cassoulet.
"Well," he says to Christie, "are you hungry?"
"Yes," she says, "I am."
"We just ate," Harry says. "You can't be hungry. You can't possibly be hungry."
"Hungry hungry hungry," she says, taking Bishop's arm, which is, can you believe it, sticking out.
Putting slices of duck in bean water while Christie watches The Adventures of Robin Hood, with Errol Flynn and Basil Rathbonne, on the kitchen TV. At the same time Hank Williams, Jr., is singing on the FM.
"I like a place where I can take my shoes off," she says, as Errol Flynn throws a whole dead deer on the banquet table.
Bishop, chopping parsley, is taking quick glances at her to see what she looks like with a glass of wine in her hand. Some people look good with white wine, some don't.
He makes a mental note to by some Mazola-a case maybe.
"Here's sixty seconds on fenders," says the radio.
"Do you live with anybody?" Christie asks.
"My daughter is here sometimes. Summers and Christmas." A little tarragon into the bean water. "How about you?"
"There's this guy."
But there had to be. Bishop chops steadfastly with his Three Sheep brand Chinese chopper, made in gray Fushan.
"He's an artist."
As who is not? "What kind of an artist?"
"A Painter. He's in Seattle. He needs rain."
He throws handfuls of sliced onions into the water, then a can of tomato paste.
"How long does this take?" Christie asks. "I'm not rushing you. I'm just curious."
"Another hour."
"Then I'll have a little vodka. Straight. Ice. If you don't mind."
Bishop loves women who drink.
Maybe she smokes!

― Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Thursday, 6 March 2003 15:35 (twenty-two years ago)

''(i should probably add that it's not exactly a major factor in determining whether or not i fancy someone.)''

perharps that's a better q: is it a factor?

for me: no it isn't.

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Thursday, 6 March 2003 15:35 (twenty-two years ago)

JtN 'wins'!

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Thursday, 6 March 2003 15:37 (twenty-two years ago)

It's sexy.

― Dr. C (Dr. C), Thursday, 6 March 2003 15:48 (twenty-two years ago)

this thread should have been called "Girls Who Smoke - Classic Or Dud (Do not read if you hate smokers in general, we just don't want to hear it, really)"

― Dave M. (rotten03), Thursday, 6 March 2003 19:03 (twenty-two years ago)

What about if you hate girls?

― Sarah Hotnights (coco), Thursday, 6 March 2003 19:05 (twenty-two years ago)

Many people who smoke cigarettes do not enjoy the fact that they do so. Quitting is infinitessimally easier to manage without the whinings of non-smokers who share your living space - I air the place out and do my best to alleviate side-smoke, but further than that will not be dictated to in my own house (and am not in the situ. where am moving into non-smoking flatshare). For years I was the non-smoker in a family home full of the beasts so don't think I have no sympathy with those of you who like fresh air; I do too.

― suzy (suzy), Thursday, 6 March 2003 19:26 (twenty-two years ago)

aw c'mon, who here really hates gurls. that's just stupid.

― Dave M. (rotten03), Thursday, 6 March 2003 19:45 (twenty-two years ago)

they do kind of suck

― N. (nickdastoor), Thursday, 6 March 2003 20:23 (twenty-two years ago)

I came across that website too, N. I think it's rather beautiful.

― Dr. C (Dr. C), Thursday, 6 March 2003 20:31 (twenty-two years ago)

It's not just the smoking, but the rummaging for the fags in their bag, opening the pack and especially *lighting* the thing that's damn sexy. And stubbing it out.

― Dr. C (Dr. C), Thursday, 6 March 2003 20:34 (twenty-two years ago)

And stubbed out filters with lipstick on.

― Dr. C (Dr. C), Thursday, 6 March 2003 20:36 (twenty-two years ago)

In ashtrays

― Dr. C (Dr. C), Thursday, 6 March 2003 20:39 (twenty-two years ago)

christ dr c, what is this, smoking porn?

― toby (tsg20), Thursday, 6 March 2003 20:41 (twenty-two years ago)

Smoking porn = holding the fag in yr foot. (Hey, I just found that I can smoke using my foot rather than my hand! This is gd news if I lose my arms through cancer, obv.)

God bless Jerry the N for reprinting that beautiful bit of Barthelme. The "case of Mazola" line esp. hit the spot.

― Andrew L (Andrew L), Thursday, 6 March 2003 23:03 (twenty-two years ago)

Obv smoking is sexy because it draws attention to the mouth and hands.

(All you smoker haters have seemingly neglected to wonder why people smoke if it has no redeeming qualities whatever.)

― Amateurist (amateurist), Thursday, 6 March 2003 23:07 (twenty-two years ago)

Additcion, Amateurist my dear.

― Anna (Anna), Thursday, 6 March 2003 23:43 (twenty-two years ago)

No, it's not all chemical addiction. I've proven perfectly able to quit in certain circumstances and resume smoking in others. And reigning conventional wisdom aside, I don't think cigarette advertisements and peer pressure are by themselves sufficient to explain why so many people around the world start smoking.

― Amateurist (amateurist), Thursday, 6 March 2003 23:46 (twenty-two years ago)

Andrew, as the living embodiment of the Werner Roth Beast, of course you can smoke with your feet!

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Thursday, 6 March 2003 23:51 (twenty-two years ago)

**christ dr c, what is this, smoking porn?**

It's just this....thing.

― Dr. C (Dr. C), Friday, 7 March 2003 09:12 (twenty-two years ago)

Ha! Lots of smoking fans, I see. But where is the discussion of girl's having the post-coital cigarette? That is darn sexy.

― S Samson, Friday, 7 March 2003 10:04 (twenty-two years ago)

vehement anti-smoking attitude = classic classic classic
I think that is one of the reasons I started smoking. Never liked intolerant people, especially anti-smokers.

I really (*cough cough*) like the sexist comments some people make - pro/anti smoking remarks.

― nathalie (nathalie), Friday, 7 March 2003 10:14 (twenty-two years ago)

Maybe Stevie is right; it could be construed as sexism but at the same time, maybe smoking could be an archetypical feminist approach to social misdemenours? I.E. Going back to a time where smoking was considered 'unladylike'?

I nominate Miss Ryder as the hottest female smoking actress!

― S Samson, Friday, 7 March 2003 10:58 (twenty-two years ago)

this thread really makes me want to give up smoking.

― jeanne picot (jeanne picot), Friday, 7 March 2003 11:56 (twenty-two years ago)

Suzy, ouch, my head hurts trying to parse your answer.
It would help if we knew whether or not you smoked.

― Squirrel_Police (Squirrel_Police), Saturday, 8 March 2003 01:23 (twenty-two years ago)

I suppose there are people of all genders and all sexual inclinations that find stupidity in a partner attractive, or at least 'safe' and non-ego-threatening. Smoking might fall into that category for them. Otherwise I just don't understand the attraction.

― Karen, Sunday, 9 March 2003 10:45 (twenty-two years ago)

That Barthelme passage is beautiful, JtN, but the words 'Malcolm' and 'Christie' in such close proximity rather spoils it for me.

― Tim (Tim), Sunday, 9 March 2003 11:39 (twenty-two years ago)

Bitches never buy their own fuckin' cigarettes

― dave q, Sunday, 9 March 2003 13:32 (twenty-two years ago)

Smoking in Girls = Dud

Girls Who Smoke = As they say, personality counts for a lot.

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Sunday, 9 March 2003 22:57 (twenty-two years ago)

I only started smoking because A) I was told it'd stunt my growth (it did) B) I really, really hate vehement anti-smokers. I don't particularly like smoking, it's a nervous habit and I plan to quit, but jesus, you stand on the street 40 feet away from someone and they feel the need to shout at you, from 40 feet away, that you are killing them.

While standing in the path of bus fumes.

Oh and no one has ever complained about the taste of my mouth! They could just keep it to themselves or as said personality/skill might count for more than ashtray.

― Ally (mlescaut), Sunday, 9 March 2003 23:12 (twenty-two years ago)

two weeks pass...

Being a non-smoker I can always, ALWAYS taste the smoke when kissing a smoker and it is disgusting.

― ali (ali), Thursday, 27 March 2003 21:09 (twenty-two years ago)

not quite a dud. far better that there not be smokiness, but it seems a shame to let that stand between you and a good snog.

― mookieproof (mookieproof), Thursday, 27 March 2003 22:09 (twenty-two years ago)

I used to have a French girlfriend who smoked strawberry flavoured cigarettes, which of course made her kisses taste of strawberries.

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhh....

― Gatinha (rwillmsen), Friday, 28 March 2003 02:51 (twenty-two years ago)

do they make coffee flavoured ones? i'd like that.

― electric sound of jim (electricsound), Friday, 28 March 2003 02:53 (twenty-two years ago)

I went to see Titanic with said girlfriend, and afterwards she explained it to me:

"Yousee Reeechurd, zees feelm eees not abowt zee sheeep, bert rahzur aboowt zeee Ahhhsberrrrrg, wheeeech eez zee nowvow Meeleneeyerrm..."

― Gatinha (rwillmsen), Friday, 28 March 2003 03:00 (twenty-two years ago)

wow, I don't blame you for dumping her.

― RJG (RJG), Friday, 28 March 2003 03:17 (twenty-two years ago)

mookieproof I'm not saying I'd let smoking interfere with a good snog , don't be daft, but I'm just simply stating that you can definitely taste the difference. Well I can.

― ali (ali), Friday, 28 March 2003 22:43 (twenty-two years ago)

I never even noticed the sheep.

― N. (nickdastoor), Saturday, 29 March 2003 03:03 (twenty-two years ago)

So can one determine if one's partner is a smoker based on their taste and scent while going down on them?

― I'm Passing Open Windows (Ms Laura), Saturday, 29 March 2003 04:08 (twenty-two years ago)

i just had a cigarette

i'm shaking all over in glee

― jess (dubplatestyle), Saturday, 29 March 2003 04:12 (twenty-two years ago)

oh maan now i'm jonesin

― electric sound of jim (electricsound), Saturday, 29 March 2003 04:18 (twenty-two years ago)

i had ONE puff of a cigarette the other night and now i have emphasima

― minna (minna), Saturday, 29 March 2003 04:52 (twenty-two years ago)

*laughs hysterically*

― nellie (minna), Saturday, 29 March 2003 08:53 (twenty-two years ago)

seven years pass...

i’ve “caught” this very pregnant lady at my work smoking cigs twice already. It’s very uncomfortable because she is clearly trying to hide it and I just kind of ignore it.

― suburbaniatee (Aerosol), Wednesday, 9 June 2010 17:48 (fifteen years ago)

Contact all her friends and relatives and arrange an intervention! Or just look at her quizzically and with a hint of dismay; she'll understand what you are thinking without your having to say a word.

― Aimless, Wednesday, 9 June 2010 19:54 (fifteen years ago)

She's probably really sick of it, tbh. It's not like anyone doesn't KNOW that smoking is bad for the unborn, and everyone should quit for reals before getting pregnant, but it doesn't always happen that way plus I'm betting the hormones etc of pregnancy make up look like down and down look like up and I don't want to speculate about what they might make me do. Including stab annoying gits.

― the soul of the avocado escapes as soon as you open it (Laurel), Wednesday, 9 June 2010 19:56 (fifteen years ago)

it's just weird. she's a nice lady and i like her a lot,so i don;t want to to get on her case. i myself smoke and know that quitting is a bitch.

― suburbaniatee (Aerosol), Wednesday, 9 June 2010 20:11 (fifteen years ago)

lol aimless

― estela, Wednesday, 9 June 2010 21:52 (fifteen years ago)

What sucks is those girls who smoke but, between puffs, hold the fag out behind them and as far from their bodies/friends as possible (but really close to other tables/people, and at perfect height to burn skin/clothes of passers-by).

― Attention please, a child has been lost in the tunnel of goats. (James Morrison), Thursday, 10 June 2010 03:17 (fifteen years ago)

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