Fraggle Rock -- Classic or Dud?

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Inspired by a random and unintentional reference to 'fraggle' elsewhere -- I've been singing the theme song since. Me, I loved it.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 25 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Good for sure, along with the Muppet Show, but I prefer Sesame Street.

All three are classix.

JM, Monday, 25 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

As said on that elsewhere, CLASSIC. Nuff said. Like The Muppets on acid, etc.

masonic boom, Monday, 25 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I loved it. I did always feel sympathy for the Doozers, though. Weren't they sort of the Fraggles' slaves?

Nicole, Monday, 25 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Thank you, that was their name. Yeah, the whole relationship between Doozer and Fraggle society was very unclear. Like if a whole bunch of Bob the Builders had their work consistently torn down and then devoured by freaky hippies.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 25 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I thought you were asking about Ned's Atomic Dustbin for one horrible moment. Actually I don't much like any Jim Henson stuff either. I was quite parochial as a child.

Nick, Monday, 25 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

This is the second time today I've heard the term 'fraggle' applied to the world of MegaDustbinStareMaker the Unstoppable Cud. Though of course the Neds were brilliantly named, as all must agree. My question -- which came first, 'fraggle' as a dubious term or 'Fraggle' as in Muppet happiness?

And yes, Nick, far too parochial. Embrace your inner child -- by going to this fan site:

http://w ww.geocities.com/EnchantedForest/Cottage/8264/

Ned Raggett, Monday, 25 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Oh, the TV show came first, definitely. I don't know how 'fraggle' ended up being attached to the work of Ned's Atomic Dustbin, the Senseless Things et al. I always thought it was quite onomatopoeic, but maybe people were actually comparing them to characters in the show. I dunno.

Nick, Monday, 25 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Didn't Steve Lamacq coin the phrase in reference to the music? I think he did, thinking back to him going on ad infinitum about Mega City Four, Neds, etc. in the NME when all I really wanted was cute pictures of Mark Gardener and Andy Bell.

Nicole, Monday, 25 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Mark Gardener... uuuuuuhhhhh... Andy Bell... well, back in about 1990, he was definitely worth an uuuuuuhhhhhhh... And Andy Bell, he dyed his hair blonder in a pathetic attempt to entice me, as well. :-)

masonic boom, Monday, 25 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I remember one episode in which Red(?) instigated some sort of doozer emancipation campaign. All the fraggles stopped eating the doozers constructions and predictably enough the whole rock got covered in doozer girders. The situation was only resolved when a doozer explained to a senior fraggle that they only built stuff for the sake of building and that if the fraggles didn't eat it they wouldn't be able to build any more due to space constraints etc. So the fraggles went back to eating, the doozers kept on building and my worries about doozer exploitation were laid to rest.

Richard Tunnicliffe, Monday, 25 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Yeah, but what was the name of the dog?

Ned's Atomic Dustbin were nmaed after a Goon Show episode. As you probably know already.

Er... is "uuuuuuuhhhhhh" a *good* thing? Or is it a baaaad thing?

DavidM, Monday, 25 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Doozer labor fears quashed! I vaguely remember that episode.

And the dog was Sprocket. Years before a certain SNL sketch took the name over.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 25 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I clearly remember watching the show regularly as a child, but I can't remember a damn thing about it.

Therefore, dud.

Robin Carmody, Monday, 25 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I remember nothing, nothing, NOTHING about Fraggle Rock. At all. I know I used to watch it, and I know it's better than Sesame Street, but still, how good could something I don't remember at all be?

The real classic is Muppet Show. My dad and my uncle are going to be just like those two balcony guys when they get old.

Ally, Monday, 25 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

"uuuuuhhhhhh..." can either be an expression of abject lust so overpowering that the victim loses the power of speech, or else it can be an expression of abject fear, shock and horror during which the victim backs away slowly, trying not to make any sudden moves. It's the former, on this thread. ;-)

masonic boom, Monday, 25 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

It was the classes versus the Doozers on Fraggle Rock.

Which Rocked! Because it had animate fungus

and

my sister sang on the single.

Magnus, Monday, 25 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

RickyT is right. The Doozer's loved to work and construct things all day (hence their part of the opening song went 'Work your cares away...). And when the Fraggles stopped eating their constructions, they ran out of space to build more stuff and got really upset.

I loved the theme song, and Wembley!!! He was so great. He always used to 'wemble', because he couldn't make his mind up. Was the superstitious Fraggle's name Boober? Can't remember. Best of all, though, was Uncle Travelling Matt, who used to send a postcard to Gobo from a different location every episode. I remember when he went to London and saw the guards, only to write: 'The people in this strange land love their pets so much they keep them on their heads...'

Then there was the Trash Heap ('The Trash Heap has spoken... Hyahhh!'), and the King, Queen and Junior of the Universe, who were only King and Queen because they didn't know anyone else.

But Sprocket was the cutest, by far. I always wanted a dog like Sprocket. And I wanted to live on a lighthouse above Fraggle Rock... Ah well. Damn, I loved that TV show. Wish it was still being shown. Same as the Muppet Show. I have the Muppet Show albums (including John Denver Meets The Muppets!) but none of the Fraggle Rock ones. Which is a shame because that opening song was incredible...

I'd better stop now. I'm probably scaring some people...

Paul Strange, Monday, 25 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Thank you! I'd always believed that the strange royal family were called the King and Queen of the Universe, but no-one would ever back me up.

m jemmeson, Monday, 25 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I could never understand how the lighthouse led through where the Fraggles were to where the Gorgs lived. Has me puzzled to this day, you know. And did anyone else here want to eat the Doozer's buildings? They looked so tasty!
Incidentally, the divine LC has an uncle just like Uncle Travelling Matt, only he's called Bernard. And isn't a Fraggle.

DG, Monday, 25 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I always liked Kerouac, but I always liked Travelling Matt better. Fraggle Rock was so great. Not as memorable as the Muppet Show, no crotchety old geezers in the balcony, no Animal, no singing Swedish chef, no Muppets in space, but watching it makes me inexplicably happy like little else. Worries for another day, indeed.

Otis Wheeler, Tuesday, 26 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

remember when they tried to capture the moon in a bucket - oh god, the memories...and wasn't they guy who lived upstairs the same guy who played punky brewster's dad who played cmmdnte lasard in polica academies?

Geoff, Tuesday, 26 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

A classic!...Boober Fraggle was my favourite, I indentified with him! They need to show, this show again!

james e l, Tuesday, 26 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Such consensus! Well, I thought Fraggle Rock was hippie shite, and having seen the linked-to website I still think Fraggle Rock was hippie shite. Where is the Muppet spite???

Tom, Tuesday, 26 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

all puppets are shit. jim henson is shit

gareth, Tuesday, 26 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Bah, Tom's just jealous that his writing doesn't have the epic sweep and wry observational humor of Uncle Traveling Matt's.

Anyway, Fraggle Rock is on the CBC (Canadian BBC) either Saturday or Sunday mornings...but it's usually way too early for me to be up to watch it.

Nicole, Tuesday, 26 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I was about to say, Tom. Stop smoking the crack. Embrace the fraggle. :-)

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 26 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Am I right in thinking that in each country that Fraggle Rock was shown in, the opening live action linking sequence was different? So we had the lighthouse with John Gordon-Sinclair and in the States they had something else. All had the same dog (Sprocket) trying to get down the crack, but was a local celeb fronting it.

Pete, Tuesday, 26 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Wasn't the lighthouse man originally Fulton Mackay, from out of 'Porridge'? I'm sure it was.

DG, Tuesday, 26 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Yes.

Richard Tunnicliffe, Tuesday, 26 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I was about to say, lighthouse? Did I miss something? In America it was a general store or the like, I seem to recall.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 26 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

two months pass...
I grew up with this show! I loved it so mcuh!! I wish they'd show re-runs. I think my little sister would love it too!

Laina Hutsell, Friday, 31 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Now this thread has been revived I've got the theme song stuck in my head AGAIN. Hmph.

DG, Friday, 31 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

two months pass...
I am so pleased I found this message board. I'm from England and my Kiwi Boyfriend and I got into a debate over where Sprokett and his owner lived. I insisted it was a lighthouse (and that every country was different) and he said definatly a workshop. We set out to prove our points, with the winner awarded 2 whole days of gloating. I believe I have won thanks to the help of you guys :)

Christina Betts, Sunday, 11 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Hurrah for Christina! Yes, you are correct, and you may lord it over him as you please. ;-)

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 11 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

This thread nearly reduced me to tears. I loved Fraggle Rock, loved it, loved it, loved it.

I of course love lots of hippie shite.

np: Genesis - Nursery Cryme

sundar subramanian, Sunday, 11 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

one year passes...
I THINK THAT FRAGGLE ROCK IS A CLASSIC...... IT NEEDS TO BE PUT BACK ON THE AIRE ......... FRAGGLE ROCK IS THE SHIT!

Megan Ormond, Thursday, 2 January 2003 19:12 (twenty-two years ago)

theme song = classic
show = I can't remember
big hairy giants = dud

Curtis Stephens, Thursday, 2 January 2003 21:10 (twenty-two years ago)

Does anyone else remember the travelling Fraggle Rock museum exhibit?

Amateurist (amateurist), Thursday, 2 January 2003 21:14 (twenty-two years ago)

Doozers! I love Doozers, I always wanted a Doozer...

smee (smee), Friday, 3 January 2003 14:52 (twenty-two years ago)

two months pass...
Time to re-revive. This thread is Classic ILE Gold. Kate perving on Mark Gardener! Nicole and N.'s opposition delineated, sort of! Ally comparing herself and her uncle to Statler and Waldorf! And Tom being crabby about one of the greatest TV shows ever, but let that pass. ;-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 14 March 2003 16:52 (twenty-two years ago)

man, bomb england now

jess (dubplatestyle), Friday, 14 March 2003 17:18 (twenty-two years ago)

:(

jel -- (jel), Friday, 14 March 2003 17:19 (twenty-two years ago)

oh, alright...just ship all these muppet hating misanthropes out to some south seas island and bombs away

(toss josh in there too for his peanuts hate)

jess (dubplatestyle), Friday, 14 March 2003 17:22 (twenty-two years ago)

Yes, Josh must suffer for his crime.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 14 March 2003 17:25 (twenty-two years ago)

"Fraggle Rock Theme" is among the funkiest jams in the history of mankind. I like how the one fraggle that escaped to above-ground sent them letters about his adventures. And I used to have nightmares about that Trash-Pile Person.

'dance your cares away
worries for another day
let the music play
DOWN IN FRAGGLE ROCK!'

nickalicious (nickalicious), Friday, 14 March 2003 17:27 (twenty-two years ago)

one year passes...
Revive cause I wanna. There's a pretty great fansite I've found here:

http://www.fragglerocker.com/

And looking through it I am reminded that a friend of mine from UCI newspaper days was often considered the living incarnation of Mokey Fraggle. This was meant positively!

There are apparently two Fraggle Rock DVDs available so far.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 13 January 2005 15:15 (twenty years ago)

And the theme tune was the first place I noticed how great hand-claps were.

"Dance your cares away . . . CLAP CLAP"

Johnney B (Johnney B), Thursday, 13 January 2005 15:38 (twenty years ago)

The Trash Heap had breasts!

shookout (shookout), Thursday, 13 January 2005 18:57 (twenty years ago)

i always found it a little ewww how the trashbreasts would sort of move and flop when trash heap spoke or laughed or whatever.

andrew m. (andrewmorgan), Thursday, 13 January 2005 19:09 (twenty years ago)

DUD: While "Sesame Street" and "The Muppet Show" were on free television, "Fraggle Rock" was on freakin' HBO. My step-siblings got to watch it, but not me.

Funky theme song, tho'.

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Thursday, 13 January 2005 19:20 (twenty years ago)

there was this one episode where on of the fraggles befriended this creature who suddenly turned grumpy and then built a cocoon and changed into a new creature. it freaked me out as a kid.

latebloomer (latebloomer), Thursday, 13 January 2005 21:53 (twenty years ago)

Hang on, back up! MAGNUS'S SISTER SANG ON THE FRAGGLE ROCK SINGLE?!

This is almost as exciting as when Ed revealed he was related to Edith's mother from Allo Allo.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 13 January 2005 21:57 (twenty years ago)

I was only in the pub with her less than a week ago. If I'd known I was in the presence of such a living legend I would have talked to her a bit more.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 13 January 2005 21:57 (twenty years ago)

six months pass...
First season on DVD next month

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 11 August 2005 12:41 (twenty years ago)

Can't believe it took so long

beanz (beanz), Thursday, 11 August 2005 13:20 (twenty years ago)

A question answered:

http://electrolicious.com/archives/images/Rainbow+Fraggle.jpg

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Thursday, 11 August 2005 13:27 (twenty years ago)

Oh my

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 11 August 2005 15:05 (twenty years ago)

whenever i'm giving sage advice to someone, i think i should have two rats agreeing with everything i say. "yes rats" if you will. and i should be covered in trash. with floppy trash breasts.

andrew m. (andrewmorgan), Thursday, 11 August 2005 15:12 (twenty years ago)

five years pass...

*clap clap*

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 16 December 2010 16:36 (fourteen years ago)

one year passes...

ARGH

http://gawker.com/5943932/ben-folds-five-returns-brings-fraggle-rock-back-with-it

Ned Raggett, Monday, 17 September 2012 19:20 (thirteen years ago)

Gobo better get a gourd solo!!

pet carrier (Crabbits), Tuesday, 18 September 2012 02:30 (thirteen years ago)

Was the fraggle rock scene so called cos they wuz all a bunch of Muppets?
Somebody actually had a torrent war of Ned's Atomic Dustbin stuff going on at Dime a couple of weeks back, oddly enough.

Stevolende, Tuesday, 18 September 2012 09:40 (thirteen years ago)

one year passes...

WHAT the fuck:

Hulu is preparing to launch its first original children's show, a spin-off of the classic '80s series Fraggle Rock. According to Variety, Hulu will be the exclusive US home to The Doozers, which turns a group of supporting Fraggle Rock characters into the centerpiece of a new series. Just as with Fraggle Rock, The Jim Henson Company is a co-producer of the series, only this time with the production company behind Yo Gabba Gabba! along for the ride.

Except there's one big problem here:

http://cdn3.sbnation.com/entry_photo_images/9816133/d_large_large.jpg

Ned Raggett, Monday, 10 February 2014 19:44 (eleven years ago)

one year passes...

*clap clap*?

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 19 March 2015 22:30 (ten years ago)

two years pass...

Thirty-five years old as of yesterday. Also the general store or hardware store or whatever the US version was is the only true version. (Though it was definitely eye-opening way upthread to realize about these different versions.)

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 11 January 2018 18:19 (seven years ago)

FP

remember the lmao (darraghmac), Thursday, 11 January 2018 18:20 (seven years ago)

FR YR FU FR OP

remember the lmao (darraghmac), Thursday, 11 January 2018 18:20 (seven years ago)

Complaints complaints

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 11 January 2018 18:21 (seven years ago)

4ever/alwayz

classic

infinity (∞), Thursday, 11 January 2018 18:46 (seven years ago)

The producers made the series with the intention of it airing in various forms internationally. That concept grew out of Jim Henson's experience adapting Sesame Street to the requirements of foreign markets.[1] The human "wraparound" segments were produced separately in several countries, so the viewer could always relate to the world of the program. The series has appeared now in over ten countries and languages. The head producer was Wesley James Tomlinson.

The main version, filmed in Toronto, features an inventor named Doc (played by Gerry Parkes) and his dog Sprocket. This wraparound was also used in the USA, Australia, New Zealand, the Netherlands, the Republic Of Ireland, Scandinavia, Spain and Eastern Europe. Dutch, Scandinavian, Spanish and Eastern European shows were dubbed in their respective languages.
The British inserts were filmed at the TVS Studios in Southampton, and later at the TVS Television Theatre in Gillingham, Kent (since closed) and presents Fraggle Rock as a rocky sea-island with a lighthouse. Exterior footage was that of St Anthony's Lighthouse located near Falmouth in Cornwall. The lighthouse keeper is The Captain (played by Fulton Mackay), a retired sailor who lives with his faithful dog Sprocket. In the third season following the death of Fulton Mackay, the role was filled by John Gordon Sinclair as P.K. (the Captain's nephew) and in the fourth Simon O'Brien as B.J. (the Captain's son). In 2014, 35 of these British wraparounds were still missing, believed wiped, although subsequent recoveries have reduced this number to one with 95 known to exist.[4] Nickelodeon repeated it in the UK from 1993, as did Boomerang and Cartoonito in 2007. The episodes shown were the Canadian versions.
In the German version, the action takes place beneath the workshop of the inventor Doc (played by Hans-Helmut Dickow). The series was named Die Fraggles with 85 of the 96 produced episodes being presented in German.
In France, the wraparound segments take place in a bakery with its version of Doc (played by Michel Robin) who worked as a baker and a French alter-ego for Sprocket called Croquette. Doc inherited the home from his eccentric Uncle Georges (who was a noted inventor). Thus, when the frame story required the use of a mechanical device, Doc would find yet another of Uncle Georges's machines. Plot-lines also frequently involved the elegant but unseen Madame Pontaven (who Doc repeatedly attempted to impress and invite to dinner with no success). Not all of the 96 episodes were produced in French.

Algerian Goalkeeper (Odysseus), Thursday, 11 January 2018 20:14 (seven years ago)

Now I want to know how Doc's appearance in A Muppets Family Christmas (where the Muppets met the Fraggles for the first and only time) was handled internationally. Information please, Jeeves!

the smartest persin in the room (Old Lunch), Thursday, 11 January 2018 20:18 (seven years ago)

(As if the fact that I already knew all the information you just helpfully shared isn't sad enough.)

the smartest persin in the room (Old Lunch), Thursday, 11 January 2018 20:20 (seven years ago)

heh, no idea. I only copied the above from wikipedia!

Algerian Goalkeeper (Odysseus), Thursday, 11 January 2018 21:15 (seven years ago)

muppet family christmas is maybe my favorite muppet-related thing ever, a wonderfully plotless special where all of the characters from all of the classic shows hang out for, i think, the only time ever. i remember watching it over and over as a kid and being shocked to learn as an adult that you basically can't buy a complete version anymore, the rights are all messed up because different companies own the muppets/sesame street and the fraggles. thank god for youtube.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Friday, 12 January 2018 01:46 (seven years ago)

two years pass...

*clap clap*

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iAXFu-KFVGI

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 21 April 2020 20:39 (five years ago)

edible infrastructure or gtfo

lukas, Wednesday, 22 April 2020 05:35 (five years ago)

one year passes...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=993_k1z31ew

Ned Raggett, Monday, 15 November 2021 21:27 (three years ago)

Ohhhh, I don't know

I watched The Dark Crystal yesterday and it was great as always and I thought about watching the Netflix series afterwards but then I was like 'why not just watch Fraggle Rock instead?'. I just don't think I have any need whatsoever for non-Henson Henson reboots.

Lou Christie's Mosh Pit (Old Lunch), Monday, 15 November 2021 21:55 (three years ago)

one month passes...

*CLAP CLAP*

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H21eTqk9BP8

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 5 January 2022 22:57 (three years ago)


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