Taking Sides: Serious Vs SillyThreads

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What do you get more of a kick out of?

Tom, Tuesday, 4 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Obviously I like a mix of both, but best of all I like silly love games.

Nick, Tuesday, 4 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

They always seem to bleed over one way or another eventually.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 4 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Either one is good, but silly ones are easier to reply to. The problem with serious threads is that we do have too many tossers around here, and while I don't generally mind tossers at all, when you've got ten people doing a serious discussion of a touchy issue and then some practical illiterate comes in and says something completely asinine and barbaric, then it ruins the whole game, because invariably it is impossible for every single contributor to ignore the blindingly awful post.

But that can be entertaining as well, you know?

Ally, Tuesday, 4 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

It can be occasionally, but I wish people would just ignore obvious trolls. I actually think there are hardly any on ILE. Sometimes people's views are offensive, but there are usually prepared to argue their point civilly, which is all that matters.

Nick, Tuesday, 4 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

My point isn't necessarily the obvious trolls, my terms are a bit flippant and rude right now because I'm exhausted - my point is with people who obviously dislike each other who make a point of irritating each other and won't let it go. I think everyone is guilty of this from time to time but there are other people who just do it every single time they post regularly, with both trolls and other regular posters. It's irritating and makes it impossible to ever have a civil argument with a person like that.

I've just decided to generally ignore people like that, except for Ethan cos I think it's wicked funny to rile him up.

Ally, Tuesday, 4 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I don't have the time or the thought to answer serious questions, I wish sometimes I did. Usually by the time I read anything serious there has already been 30 answers, and the right scroll bar has shrunk to about half a centimetre, I usually hit back when that happens. As there is nothing I could possibly say that hasn't already been said. Plus generally being of an apolitical aissue stance, I just prefer stuff about pop culture (not defining it!). I just don't have much to say, does that make me a bad person?

jel, Tuesday, 4 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

what the hells up with that Greg/Ethan/DG thing? i thought it was, like a joke, but it seems to have been going on for a while and it doesn't seem like a joke anymore.

silly and serious? its a score draw isn't it?

gareth, Tuesday, 4 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

ethan has listened to too many mid-90s hip-hop records, i think, and this is the end result.

has anyone noticed that ilm seems to have a lot of trolls and outsiders coming in, especially on the rap threads? it's like the last days of alt.music.alternative. now all we need is the "drug music update" guy to stop in.

fred solinger, Tuesday, 4 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I get a kick out of both. I usually lurk when it's a serious thread. I am one of the dumb dumb girls.

nathalie, Tuesday, 4 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I contribute to silly threads, but I like to read serious threads more.

maria, Tuesday, 4 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Yeah, like the Jay-Z/Nas thread - who are all those people? It's pretty funny, it brings out the ghetto in me what with the way all the rap-thread-only contributors talk. I love that.

Ally, Tuesday, 4 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

That is a great thread precisely because of all the regulars showing off their hip-hop chat chops.

Tom, Tuesday, 4 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

That's how I talk all the time now, I don't know what that's about.

Ally, Tuesday, 4 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Serious. Absolutely no question.

Captain Swing aka King Penda, Tuesday, 4 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I like serious threads that are about a fairly specific topic, rather than very generalized questions, like the Two Cultures one. Not to pick on anyone, specific questions just make it easier to answer.

Silly ones are entertaining, tho they often end up as a string of inside jokes or personal references, which is off-putting to newcomers.

tha chzza, Tuesday, 4 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

what the hells up with that Greg/Ethan/DG thing? Good question.

Anyway, I like both as long as there is a nice balance, not too silly, and not too serious. Yay!

DG, Tuesday, 4 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I have a very silly outlook on life. My basic coping mechanism is to find humor in whatever situation I encounter. Therefore, I gravitate towards silliness.

Dan Perry, Tuesday, 4 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

The Jay-Z/Nas thread? Which one would this be?

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 4 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Um. The one on ILM with "JAY-Z/NAS THROWDOWN" (or something similar to throwdown) clearly in the title ;)

Ally, Tuesday, 4 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Alright, alright, I'll stop being bitchy:

click here, Nedster.

Ally, Tuesday, 4 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Posted, I should note, during my very irregular checking of the boards during my vacation, so foo on you.

*reads*

Hm. But did anyone talk about the music?

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 4 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

What, you can't read now too? I mean, like, all of the posts are about the music, brush up boy :P

Ally, Tuesday, 4 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

dg is pussy cuz he picked greg out the whole bunch cuz greg is pussy too...he too pussy...dg's post is hard but when ETHAN come back HE COMIN HARD..so DG FUCKED UP DROPPIN 1st...AND GREG BATTLE VERSE WAS LONG BUT NO HARDER THAN ETHAN's COMBACK ON THAT DISCO BEAT..GREG WAS SPITTIN NONSENSE ON SOME BARS TRYNA STRETCH THE SONG..AND GREG ATE DG ASS ON FUNK FLEX..THATS THE NIGGA TO WATCH IN THE GAME ON THE LOW YA HEARD...

ethan, Tuesday, 4 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

They're about the MCing, yes. I'm much more interested in all those crazy, brittle and beautiful loops and things on the album. :-)

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 4 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Does this make me the board's Lil' Kim? Savage.

Ned: Well, that's all irrelevant because everyone and their brother knows that Jiggaman's got the better beats and loops and production. Fucking flawless shit.

Ally, Tuesday, 4 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Then all is well. :-)

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 4 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

He managed to make the Doors sound kick ass. I mean, the Doors? That's an impossible feat, my friend.

Ally, Tuesday, 4 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Ned your wackness is huge. I quote: "Beats are good and nice, but lyrics is what hip hop and rap has always been about. Its what you say and how you say it, not who's beat you rhyme over. I speak of this as a rapper myself. You go to these talent showcases, especially in NJ and Philly, you will get booed off if you don't have tight lyrics." Your point has been raised and now you must get beat down or something. Look Roots Manuva doesn't say all this stuff, how am I meant to get it right eh. We need to get Jay-Z on ILE, then his next album will be full of "Blimey" and "suXoR".

Tom, Tuesday, 4 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

He's already using words like "vamoose", for fuck's sake. I'm all, what, are you in the Rat Pack now? S to the inatrazay? Fedoras? DO YOU THINK YOU'RE DEAN MARTIN? Who does that make Amil? I'm confused.

Ally, Tuesday, 4 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

oh come on, like no rapper has ever said 'vamoose' before. ahem, and i quote, 'disappear, vamoose, you're wack to me / take them rhymes back to the factory'. fresh for '94!

oh ally you should know that i am so buying the new jay-z totally on your recommendation. FRESH.

ethan, Tuesday, 4 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Ned your wackness is huge.

I read that damn quote and I care not a fig for it. His world is not my world.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 4 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

"Ned, your whackness is huge" has a very disturbing ring to it though.

Anyhow, Ethan, I know, I just like going on and on about "S to the inatrazay" and carrying on about the Rat Pack, so I look for an excuse. Plus, "vamoose" is like the gayest word ever, for someone so damn self concious as to write a song that just goes "I love girls girl girls girl girls girls girls (etc)" you'd think he'd think that one out. I just read the funniest fucking email, someone translating "Izzo" to "Queen's english" and I just almost died laughing. You should get the album though, Ethan, it's fucking enormous. It comes out next Tuesday - mark the calendar.

I love how a thing about Serious vs Silly turns into a discussion of Jay-Z and Ned's whack-quotient.

Ally, Tuesday, 4 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I thought you said it was delayed two weeks, Ms. Kearney. SO WHICH IS IT?

I have been accused of everything from unhipness to nerd-dom to distinct lack of fly to heaps of wackness upside the head over all these years. Yet I live and thrive, hurrah!

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 5 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

poop.

Nitsuh, Wednesday, 5 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I thought you said it was delayed two weeks

No, I said it had been pushed up an additional week on top of the first week it'd been pushed up.

Pushed up = moved up

Pushed back = moved back

See?

Ally, Wednesday, 5 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Clarity is mine.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 5 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)


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