How does one morally live in america with knowledge of our government's evil deeds?

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just wondering.

― j fail (cenotaph), Thursday, 13 March 2003 03:40 (twenty-two years ago)

Most of the years post-World War II have been a slew of evil deeds hither and yon.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 13 March 2003 03:44 (twenty-two years ago)

Same way anyone morally lives in any other country with knowldge of there government's evil deeds.

― Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Thursday, 13 March 2003 03:45 (twenty-two years ago)

How would it be morally better to leave?

I see the argument for "doing all one can to stop 'evil' when it's seen," but why would leaving be better than staying? If everyone who objected to the status quo left, the one thing you'd guarantee is the status quo's re-election.

― Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 13 March 2003 03:47 (twenty-two years ago)

http://carcino.gen.nz/images/image.php/12783a06/onering.jpg

― Carey (Carey), Thursday, 13 March 2003 03:49 (twenty-two years ago)

The inevitable result of that would be Mark S and myself as Shagrat and Gorbag in a production of Samuel Beckett's Waiting for Khamul.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 13 March 2003 03:51 (twenty-two years ago)

Whoa! Don't go pointing that loaded question at me.

There hasn't been a govt in the history of the universe that did do 'evil deeds'.

(except for that hippie country on Xanaclon)

― oops (Oops), Thursday, 13 March 2003 03:56 (twenty-two years ago)

See Mr. Noodles post above, also believing that yr govts evil deeds are the lesser of the available evil deeds helps. So does being a free marketeer.

― Millar (Millar), Thursday, 13 March 2003 03:59 (twenty-two years ago)

(I left.)

― Colin Meeder (Mert), Thursday, 13 March 2003 14:45 (twenty-two years ago)

I like to think God has a wicked sense of humor, and that I'm one of the select few in on the joke.

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Thursday, 13 March 2003 15:33 (twenty-two years ago)

Drugs.

― teeny (teeny), Thursday, 13 March 2003 15:47 (twenty-two years ago)

That too teeny, oh boy, that too.

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Thursday, 13 March 2003 15:49 (twenty-two years ago)

sorry, i was just venting when i posted that.

i guess what i meant is - since i am aware of the us government's terroristic activities, corporate malfeasance, etc., then how do i reconcile my lifestyle to react to this? of course i am not into lifestyle politics, but it makes me sick to see my money going towards corporations that are involved in the destruction of human rights, etc. but at the same time, it's not like i can avoid oil companies entirely. how much of my life should be devoted towards activism? should i just try to reach moral compromises?

of course this is a personal thing, but i actively wonder how i can live with myself sometimes..... yet i am also overcome with apathy often.

― j fail (cenotaph), Thursday, 13 March 2003 15:53 (twenty-two years ago)

Read the news, try to keep finding out what's going on instead of entrenching yourself in defending/criticizing values based on what you already think you know, and vote.

(Slight pedant note: corporations are more in dialectical struggle with the government than of the US government. The really evil ones are global anyway. Which reminds me, memo to self: quit smoking March 30.)

― felicity (felicity), Thursday, 13 March 2003 16:27 (twenty-two years ago)

[munchkin voice]
you can do it felicity

― oops (Oops), Thursday, 13 March 2003 16:29 (twenty-two years ago)

Thanks! I need help.

― felicity (felicity), Thursday, 13 March 2003 16:32 (twenty-two years ago)

Yay Felicity! We shall all give support. :-) And good advice in general from you too. :-)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 13 March 2003 16:47 (twenty-two years ago)

Felicity's advice is excellent except for quitting smoking

― Millar (Millar), Thursday, 13 March 2003 23:39 (twenty-two years ago)

It's only rather recently I think, that people were even made to feel complicit in their government's actions. I think it's all the you-too-can-be-president rhetoric in civics class that reinforces this feeling. A cynical response would be to acknowledge the persistence of antidemocratic tendencies in this model democracy. Foreign policy has always had a tenuous relationship to public opinion or even indirect democracy.

― Amateurist (amateurist), Friday, 14 March 2003 05:15 (twenty-two years ago)

J.: You do the best you can. You can't be perfect, and you can't even be as good as you want to be, but you do the best you can, and you are sad that you can't do better.

― Chris P (Chris P), Friday, 14 March 2003 08:11 (twenty-two years ago)

Have we not established that women are sexier with cigarettes? Not that you need the help of course, Felicity...

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Friday, 14 March 2003 19:04 (twenty-two years ago)

God, my last post is so tool-like. Apologies.

― Amateurist (amateurist), Friday, 14 March 2003 19:08 (twenty-two years ago)

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