The Diary of a Teenage Girl - Phoebe Gloeckner

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I recently read this book (and reviewed it), i thought it was great, very akin to darcey steinke's mid-90s stories in theme (w/o the fantasy).

although i was doubting some of minnie's rationalisms at times, i gave it the benefit of the doubt after a while (at least until the next reading).

aside from a couple of very minor beef's (chuck's skateboard as pictured on p.22 is the dual kickflip/symetrical variety which was not popularized until the late 80s), i thought this was a great book and some of the more progressive readers may be interested in checking it out.

― gygax! (gygax!), Sunday, 23 March 2003 21:49 (twenty-two years ago)

i have seen this in the bookstore several times and wanted to pick it up, but it's just slightly out of financial reach right now. (sez he who just bought a playstation.) "minnie's third love" is surely one of the great comics.

fav phoebe gloeckner story: being taking out to a fancy dinner by the guy who published "screw" (bob guccione?) so he could buy some photo-realist paintings she'd done of an "anatomical cross-section" of a blow job. (i think for a re:search published "atrocity exhibition.")

― jess (dubplatestyle), Monday, 24 March 2003 02:39 (twenty-two years ago)

the guy who published "screw"

Al Goldstein, isn't it?

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 24 March 2003 05:16 (twenty-two years ago)

i may be getting it wrong, let's do some research...

― jess (dubplatestyle), Monday, 24 March 2003 05:20 (twenty-two years ago)

Yes, my friend.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 24 March 2003 05:24 (twenty-two years ago)

Al Goldstein, publisher of Screw magazine, somehow heard about the big blowjob painting. He called me and said, "I'm coming to San Francisco. I'll take you out for dinner. I want to buy the painting." I didn't know exactly who he was, but people told me he was this huge, fat pervert. He was very fat and friendly and smart. I liked him. We had dinner at a fancy restaurant and he pulled out this wad of bills and started peeling off hundreds, one by one, very slowly. "I want you to know what it feels like to be a hooker, getting all this money from Al Goldstein, in front of everyone." It was hilarious. He spent the evening telling me about how he doesn't feel loved unless someone swallows his semen, and how he was just in LA having dinner with all these porno stars. When this woman fell under the table, he told her to give him a blowjob. She did and he liked her because she swallowed his semen. He just went on and on.

― jess (dubplatestyle), Monday, 24 March 2003 05:25 (twenty-two years ago)

(i think for a re:search published "atrocity exhibition."

i have this edition. the cross section is disgusting, but effective.

― Dave M. (rotten03), Monday, 24 March 2003 06:00 (twenty-two years ago)

is it one of these pics (tame but not work safe)?

― gygax! (gygax!), Monday, 24 March 2003 06:59 (twenty-two years ago)

no, it's partly an anatomical cross section. there are cutaways so you can see beneath the skin.

― Dave M. (rotten03), Monday, 24 March 2003 08:11 (twenty-two years ago)

eleven months pass...

I bought this on gygax recommendation and I quite liked it. It's very much what I remember Polk St being all about when I was younger (although I guess by the time I was Minnie's age it was beginning to get a little less so.) I'll have to pick A Child's Life now. So thanks!

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 3 March 2004 01:43 (twenty-one years ago)

i was absolutely captivated by this book - i picked it up one night and couldn't put it down till i'd read the whole thing. so i went out and read A Child's Life, which was amazing but didn't capture my attention quite as much (apart from Minnie's Third Love, which was mindblowing, and yes, i'd say one of the greatest comics i've ever read)

does anyone have any recommendations for other books in this vein?

― too much for my mirror (too much for my mirror), Wednesday, 3 March 2004 02:18 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm glad you got a chance to read it Alex, I thought it might appeal to you.

TMFMM, I recommend:

craig thompson - blankets
adrian tomine - summer blonde
chester brown - i never liked you
david b. - epilectic 1

― gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 3 March 2004 05:59 (twenty-one years ago)

I got Diary of a Teenage Girl for my ex for her birthday. She liked it a lot, but dumped me before I could borrow it (bummer.)

― Ian Johnson (orion), Wednesday, 3 March 2004 06:00 (twenty-one years ago)

xpost

i do have to warn you, all of the above are written from a very adolescent/young male POV.

if fiction is kosher, darcey steinke's "jesus saves" [nyt book review] is kin to gloeckner's work with a little bit more fantasy involved.

― gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 3 March 2004 06:04 (twenty-one years ago)

chars, gygax! will check those out.

― too much for my mirror (too much for my mirror), Wednesday, 3 March 2004 07:23 (twenty-one years ago)

the anatomical cross section of blowjob is part of JG Ballard's Atrocity Expedition.

― Cara, Thursday, 4 March 2004 07:06 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm reading this now!

TMFMM, I recommend:

craig thompson - blankets
adrian tomine - summer blonde
chester brown - i never liked you
david b. - epilectic 1

gygax!, we should really talk comics sometime. I have read (and greatly enjoyed) all of these except Blankets. Good picks!

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 04:24 (twenty-one years ago)

I hope you mean that you haven't read Blankets yet.

― Leee the Lee (Leee), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 04:30 (twenty-one years ago)

Yes, I realize that could be misread.

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 04:33 (twenty-one years ago)

there's a kid from oakland right now who owns me bad: david choe.

his first book is out of print but his second one (well, it's more graphic art then graphic novel) is pretty nice.

i need to assemble a pack for your perusal. we should discuss the contents!

― gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 04:41 (twenty-one years ago)

You know, I saw Diary at the library, but there were so many words in it that I got scared!

― Leee the Illiterate Comics Reader (Leee), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 04:41 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, it's not really a comic at all. It's better for that too, actually, I don't know if it could work as a enormous graphic novel. Too disturbing after a while.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 04:44 (twenty-one years ago)

don't be scared, leee. it's amazing! i also recommend debbie dreschler. she did a short series called "nowhere" (five issues, i think) that was published a few years ago as a book called 'summer of love.' one of my favorites, along with 'diary.'

― lauren (laurenp), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 16:42 (twenty-one years ago)

fourteen years pass...

I just read <i>A Child's Life and Other Stories</i>, and wow - as an artist, Gloeckner is very talented, but I was pretty shocked how graphic and grimy it was - what a sad, crazy life she lived. And this is after I read <i>Diary</i>! Amazed my local library system even carried it, now I think about it.

― Nhex, Friday, 4 January 2019 20:18 (six years ago)

Whoops, forgot to do BBcode.

― Nhex, Friday, 4 January 2019 20:19 (six years ago)

Just noticed the other day that she's the editor on this years Best American Comics collection. Super cool.

― Vape Ape (Old Lunch), Friday, 4 January 2019 20:23 (six years ago)

And yeah, Child's Life is massively fucked up and sad.

― Vape Ape (Old Lunch), Friday, 4 January 2019 20:24 (six years ago)

Pretty sure gloekner is one of the secret best comic makers

― i believe that (s)he is sincere (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 5 January 2019 03:47 (six years ago)

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