Taking Sides: Another Think Coming v Another Thing Coming

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"Think" is the original I think, but is thing the new thing?

Alan (Alan), Friday, 28 March 2003 14:18 (twenty-two years ago)

What kind of mentalism is this. Off north with you. What would "You've got another THINK coming" mean?

Pete (Pete), Friday, 28 March 2003 14:23 (twenty-two years ago)

Alan = Boris Badenov

Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Friday, 28 March 2003 14:23 (twenty-two years ago)

tis was always "another thing coming", I think.

jel -- (jel), Friday, 28 March 2003 14:23 (twenty-two years ago)

it's cos up north they sit drooling like vegetables and thoughts only come along every few hours

Ronan (Ronan), Friday, 28 March 2003 14:24 (twenty-two years ago)

yes, deffo, another thing.

MarkH (MarkH), Friday, 28 March 2003 14:25 (twenty-two years ago)

"Think" is the new "Look Good". Finally we're here. Methinks.

Tuomas (Tuomas), Friday, 28 March 2003 14:26 (twenty-two years ago)

I thik Alan's right: "if you think x, then you've got another think coming" is the original, 'thing' is an interloper. NB: I had a huge stand-up row with a gf of mine about this very issue once, in which I argued precisely the opposite point. She won the row by marshalling the testimonies of my mum AND her mum.

Tim (Tim), Friday, 28 March 2003 14:29 (twenty-two years ago)

I've seen 'think' used in a number of older books, so I had assumed it was the original use. I've only ever heard people use 'thing' in everyday conversation, though.

ChristineSH (chrissie1068), Friday, 28 March 2003 14:31 (twenty-two years ago)

THAT'S the kind of thing you people have huge rows with your SO's about in the UK? Blimey.

That's simply not proper English by the way, "another think"? Grammatically it should be "thought".

Ally (mlescaut), Friday, 28 March 2003 14:31 (twenty-two years ago)

Ally, this was in the 1980s, probably before you were born. And 'another think' is OK: "I'll have another think about that".

Except I won't you know.

Tim (Tim), Friday, 28 March 2003 14:32 (twenty-two years ago)

I can't believe there's actually debate on this.
Think isn't even a noun, so how can you have one? You could have another THOUGHT coming, but that would mean something soooo different.

Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Friday, 28 March 2003 14:32 (twenty-two years ago)

you can sit and have a think, so you can obv have another think later on. what are you on about? honestly.

Alan (Alan), Friday, 28 March 2003 14:33 (twenty-two years ago)

This thread is utterly unbelievable.

The phrase 'another think coming' has been around for a long time. It means 'you'll have to think again'.

There is no such phrase as 'another thing coming'. Where on earth do you people hang out to pick up these ideas?

N., please post and support me.

the pinefox, Friday, 28 March 2003 14:33 (twenty-two years ago)

If you think I'll sit around while you chip away my brain, listen I ain't foolin', you better think again!

dave q, Friday, 28 March 2003 14:34 (twenty-two years ago)

The phrase *is* used -- I've never heard it said any other way -- but I guess it's a bastardisation.

ChristineSH (chrissie1068), Friday, 28 March 2003 14:35 (twenty-two years ago)

do any of the people in support of "another THINK coming" speak English as a first language? I'm not trying to be insulting, I'm honestly curious.

Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Friday, 28 March 2003 14:35 (twenty-two years ago)

oh please can we just not bother.

Ronan (Ronan), Friday, 28 March 2003 14:35 (twenty-two years ago)

Listen, Tim, don't be smug about the 80s, I was there too, and you didn't see me having rows with my girlfriend about ye olde day phrases. I was too busy reading Sweet Valley High, which perhaps you should look into because I'm sure Elizabeth and Jessica Wakefield would not use the phrase "another think coming".

But I will, from now on, because it's hilarious.

Ally (mlescaut), Friday, 28 March 2003 14:36 (twenty-two years ago)

Horace, i think it might be a colloquial use that caught on and then fell apart. it's perfectly sensible, coherent and, most importantly, immediately transparent in meaning.

Alan (Alan), Friday, 28 March 2003 14:37 (twenty-two years ago)

dave q you'd better thing again

Tim (Tim), Friday, 28 March 2003 14:38 (twenty-two years ago)

This thread proves the British are all insane. Yes, you. I'm looking straight at you, and you are insane.

Ally (mlescaut), Friday, 28 March 2003 14:39 (twenty-two years ago)

After a bit of web research it does indeed appear that my haste was incorrect and Another Think COming is indeed correct, as it is the end of a grammatical joke which deliberately plays on the word (since think sounds like thing). The only problem with this reading I have is that for the joke to work, another thing coming must also be common parlance. Which the description suggests it wasn't.

Hmm.

Pete (Pete), Friday, 28 March 2003 14:42 (twenty-two years ago)

Ally: I'm all about any SVH recommandations you may have. Was it a TV series first or did it start with the books?

I've even forgotten which of the Wakefield twins was the nasty one. But you're behaving *just* like her.

Tim (Tim), Friday, 28 March 2003 14:42 (twenty-two years ago)

Books first (with fake made up author natch).

Pete (Pete), Friday, 28 March 2003 14:43 (twenty-two years ago)

yeah, it's definitely supposed to be "another think coming."

"another thing coming" makes sense in a different way.

RJG (RJG), Friday, 28 March 2003 14:44 (twenty-two years ago)

Fake made up?

Tim (Tim), Friday, 28 March 2003 14:44 (twenty-two years ago)

After a bit of web research
oh, it's conclusive then.

Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Friday, 28 March 2003 14:44 (twenty-two years ago)

Picking apart personal emails on interweb mentalist message boards, C or D?

Emma, Friday, 28 March 2003 14:44 (twenty-two years ago)

What would a sentence containing "another thing coming" look like?

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Friday, 28 March 2003 14:45 (twenty-two years ago)

Alan, PF etc are right. 'Think' does sound a bit odd but I always thinked it was supposed to sound cute. Like the formalised 'Say when' 'When!'.

N. (nickdastoor), Friday, 28 March 2003 14:45 (twenty-two years ago)

There is absolutely no way it's think, you are all just romantics.

Ronan (Ronan), Friday, 28 March 2003 14:46 (twenty-two years ago)

Picking apart personal emails on interweb mentalist message boards, C or D?

The Couch, C or D?

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Friday, 28 March 2003 14:46 (twenty-two years ago)

Think. As in I'm going to go off and have a think about this.

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Friday, 28 March 2003 14:47 (twenty-two years ago)

Of course it's think, good grief people, behave!

chris (chris), Friday, 28 March 2003 14:47 (twenty-two years ago)

I am in no way acting like Jessica Wakefield. I am acting like Elizabeth Wakefield, because she was the smart one and she would know that this discussion is totally insane.

They have a new series out, the books I mean, I seen them last night. They're called "SVW: The Senior Years" - why there is an 's' attached to 'year' in that context is beyond me because I didn't get the impression they meant it in an old-folks-home context.

Ally (mlescaut), Friday, 28 March 2003 14:49 (twenty-two years ago)

there's some think not right about this.

Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Friday, 28 March 2003 14:49 (twenty-two years ago)

No wonder I never understand Ally. She's a mentalist.

Of course it's "think".

Sarah (starry), Friday, 28 March 2003 14:50 (twenty-two years ago)

Listen, I go to Columbia! I know words! Etc!

Ally (mlescaut), Friday, 28 March 2003 14:51 (twenty-two years ago)

You're not acting like Elizabeth, you're acting like Lila. Laila? You know what one I mean.

Sweet Valley Twins is where you are meant to start Tim, when you are a growed up you can move onto some Sweet Valley High. Sweet Valley College I remember thinking was quite DARK cos poor Elizabeth falls apart into ruin and destruction and gets fat and isn't a perfect size 6 anymore! And splits up with Todd! Does he start bonking Jessica?! I can't remember.

And the Sweet Valley Special series were mentalist. Did anyone read the one where a crazy gurl wanted to kill Elizabeth/Jessica and take over her life? Rocking.

Sarah (starry), Friday, 28 March 2003 14:52 (twenty-two years ago)

Judas Priest!

Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Friday, 28 March 2003 14:54 (twenty-two years ago)

The Goth Names thread is over here.

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Friday, 28 March 2003 14:55 (twenty-two years ago)

You're right, I am Lila Fowler. Good god.

Do you remember the one when they were shipwrecked? God, they lived such glamorous lives, it really set me up for disappointment when I reached age 16. The thing is, the new series, the "senior year" series, has Elizabeth already broken up with Todd and becoming quite a slut, and Jessica cannot be friends with any of her friends anymore and everyone hates her because of some indefinable thing that occured (note, it's probably not indefinable because if I actually read the new series it'd probably be clear within 2 seconds, approx.). I find it upsetting! It's very risque since no one who is actually 18 is going to read this, only young gurls read those books.

What about the Babysitters Club?

Ally (mlescaut), Friday, 28 March 2003 14:58 (twenty-two years ago)

Arrgh - fence sitters!

N. (nickdastoor), Friday, 28 March 2003 15:03 (twenty-two years ago)

(spookily apt example tho)

N. (nickdastoor), Friday, 28 March 2003 15:04 (twenty-two years ago)

The people on the 'thing' side obv. never had a think in the first place.

Tim (Tim), Friday, 28 March 2003 15:05 (twenty-two years ago)

bah! who do the british know about english anyhow?

Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Friday, 28 March 2003 15:05 (twenty-two years ago)

Further to what Horace said:

"You've got another thing comin'" was a UK number 42 hit for Judas Priest circa 1981. No, I've never heard it. But if was good enough for dear old Leather Boy Rob ...

darren (darren), Friday, 28 March 2003 15:07 (twenty-two years ago)

Americans ON OUR SIDE

N. (nickdastoor), Friday, 28 March 2003 15:09 (twenty-two years ago)

That's a terrible joke.

Ally (mlescaut), Friday, 28 March 2003 15:09 (twenty-two years ago)

Jesus wept. This thread.

This is ILX's own Pred Ship debate.

Me and Ruth Lorenzo, Rollin' in the Benzo (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 23 November 2008 01:06 (sixteen years ago)

one month passes...

371 posts, not counting this one? Could we not have seen this thing coming and avoided it?

Aimless, Friday, 2 January 2009 19:12 (sixteen years ago)

I thing not!

Abbott of the Trapezoid Monks (Abbott), Friday, 2 January 2009 19:18 (sixteen years ago)

I doubt the judgement of anyone who would question Judas Priest about such matters.

― Larcole (Nicole)

At last, some sense.

moley, Saturday, 3 January 2009 23:34 (sixteen years ago)

nine months pass...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/2009/oct/13/ridley-scott-alien-ripley
In its opening sections, Alien rattles, seemingly aimlessly, around a utilitarian space freighter (the Nostromo) and introduces us to its bickering seven-member crew, John Hurt and Ian Holm among them. If 20th Century Fox was hoping for another Star Wars (and the evidence suggests it was), the studio had another think coming.

modescalator (blueski), Tuesday, 13 October 2009 14:06 (sixteen years ago)

what's the problem here? pinefox closed this argument after about 5 posts.

Brewer's Bitch (darraghmac), Tuesday, 13 October 2009 14:11 (sixteen years ago)

eight months pass...

jeebus -- I'm not one to say mean things but I'm offended that anybody thought up "another think coming" in the 19th century, and stewing in my own anger that people use that phrase. Thing, thing, thing...

spidermark, Monday, 12 July 2010 16:49 (fifteen years ago)

http://www.ucl.ac.uk/~regojpb/page2/files/page2-1025-full.jpg

postcards from the (ledge), Monday, 12 July 2010 17:20 (fifteen years ago)

http://www.ucl.ac.uk/~regojpb/page2/files/page2-1019-full.html

postcards from the (ledge), Monday, 12 July 2010 17:20 (fifteen years ago)

http://www.ucl.ac.uk/~regojpb/page2/files/page2-1029-full.jpg

postcards from the (ledge), Monday, 12 July 2010 17:20 (fifteen years ago)

http://www.ucl.ac.uk/~regojpb/page2/files/page2-1019-full.jpg

postcards from the (ledge), Monday, 12 July 2010 17:21 (fifteen years ago)

that was the light in the tunnel I needed

spidermark, Monday, 12 July 2010 17:31 (fifteen years ago)

ALOT

conrad, Monday, 12 July 2010 17:39 (fifteen years ago)

I try not to get into grammar pedant arguments but anybody who prefers "thing" here is a cloth-eared, cloth-brained churl.

Orange You Glad I Didn't Say Mañana? (Noodle Vague), Monday, 12 July 2010 18:24 (fifteen years ago)

INTERESTING LINKS:

http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/ideas/articles/2008/05/04/the_think_thing/?page=2

"This misuse of think as a noun is creeping into the speech of many who seem unaware that it is ungrammatical." Mary Weesen in reference to "another think coming" quote!

http://grammartips.homestead.com/anotherthink.html (really smug article, probably written by someone in this thread)

http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/have_another_thing_coming

so in conclusion this is like the star bellied sneetches, who gives a crap.

San Te, Monday, 12 July 2010 20:25 (fifteen years ago)

I'm having a laugh

les yeux sans aerosmith (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Monday, 12 July 2010 20:32 (fifteen years ago)

The misapplication of seriousness is creeping into the discourse of many who seem unaware of the playful use of language.

Aimless, Monday, 12 July 2010 20:32 (fifteen years ago)

Misapplication of seriousness is a standard gambit in playful use of language iirc

Orange You Glad I Didn't Say Mañana? (Noodle Vague), Monday, 12 July 2010 20:36 (fifteen years ago)

nine months pass...

PROVEN BY SCIENCE, DOLTS

bell hops (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 3 May 2011 13:16 (fourteen years ago)

You're Kiddink?

Mark G, Tuesday, 3 May 2011 13:19 (fourteen years ago)

Hah! Think wins! That relieves a horrible tension I had not experienced before reading this thread; viz. that 'another thing coming' could possibly be considered to make sense in any context other than 'there is one Thing under the bed ALREADY and another Thing is on the way...'

Confused Turtle (Zora), Tuesday, 3 May 2011 14:57 (fourteen years ago)

i always thought that people who said "another think coming" just couldn't pronounce words right. all the pro-thingers here are so obviously right, why is this even an argument. "another think coming" MAKES NO SENSE. why would you EVER SAY IT. "another thing coming" is CORRECT.
― The Lex (The Lex), Saturday, 18 November 2006 15:52 (4 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

this might be my favourite lex post of all time.

standing on the shoulders of pissants (ledge), Tuesday, 3 May 2011 16:11 (fourteen years ago)

two years pass...

"unchartered territory"

rmmfe wtf is wrong with people?

The drone that was played caused panic and confusion (Noodle Vague), Monday, 24 June 2013 11:47 (twelve years ago)

i'm not a grammar nazi but i may be a meaning nazi

The drone that was played caused panic and confusion (Noodle Vague), Monday, 24 June 2013 11:47 (twelve years ago)

five months pass...

only a year since they changed editor and christ this fucking paper isnt worth a shit at this stage

http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/soccer/champions-league/manchester-city-give-bayern-munich-something-to-thing-about-1.1623699

mind totally brown (darraghmac), Tuesday, 10 December 2013 23:15 (eleven years ago)

six years pass...

Judas Priest muddies the water on this roight

I hear that sometimes Satan wants to defund police (Neanderthal), Thursday, 9 July 2020 02:57 (five years ago)

this is an incredibly stressful thread to read through

Lily Dale, Thursday, 9 July 2020 17:35 (five years ago)

Hm, earliest citation in the current OED Online for "another think coming" is 1896 but earliest citation for "another thing coming" is 1897. Both American.

c. to have another think coming: to be greatly mistaken. Cf. to have another thing coming at thing n.1 Phrases 16.

1896 Sunday Jrnl. (Indianapolis) 23 Feb. 10/1 ‘Oh, you think you've seen me, do you?’ and once more that voice gurgled in his ear. ‘Well, you've got another think coming.’
1897 Buffalo (N.Y.) Enquirer (Evening ed.) 12 June 6/4 People who witness the [cycle] races..often see men protest one another..and..imagine that these battles and quarrels of the track are carried on after the races are over. The people who think this ‘have another think coming’, for the men travel in one of the most peaceful parties that follows any line of sport.
1898 Syracuse (N.Y.) Standard 21 May 8/1 Conroy lives in Troy and thinks he is a corning fighter. This gentleman has another think coming.
1942 T. Bailey Pink Camellia xxvii. 199 If you think you can get me out of Gaywood, you have another think coming.
2002 Independent 29 Aug. 17/7 If he thinks he will be blissfully free of directives and paperwork, he has another think coming.

P16. to have another thing coming [arising from misapprehension of to have another think coming at think n. 1c] = to have another think coming at think n. 1c.

1897 Elmira (N.Y.) Daily Gaz. & Free Press 24 June 3/2 They imagine that these battles and quarrels of the track are carried on after the races are over. The people who think this ‘have another thing coming’, for the men travel in one of the most peaceful parties that follows any line of sport.
1902 Logansport (Indiana) Daily Reporter 7 Oct. 3/4 No matter what science tells us, it always seems to have ‘another thing coming’. This census bulletin which links long life with the fast one appears to be the other ‘think’.
1906 G. Wilshire Wilshire Editorials 214 Now if we should try and think up some one person who is satisfied with the existing order of things.., we would most likely have thought that we should find him in the editor of the Wall Street Journal. But if we did, then we have another thing [1904 Wilshire's Mag. think] coming.
1919 Syracuse (N.Y.) Herald 12 Aug. 8/3 If you think the life of a movie star is all sunshine and flowers you've got another thing coming.
1959 Lethbridge (Alberta, Canada) Herald 22 Aug. 20/3 Magistrate Edward Robey told them: ‘Please tell your friends in France that if any more come over here thinking they can put money in slot machines and get money galore, they have got another thing coming.’
1971 N.Y. Times 26 Feb. 37/4 One of those taken into custody identified himself as ‘very prominent in the community’ and declared, ‘After this, if the police think they are getting a raise they've got another thing coming.’
1981 J. Sullivan Only Fools & Horses (1999) I. 1st Ser. Episode 1. 57 Del. If you think I'm staying in a lead-lined nissan hut with you and Grandad and a chemical bloody khazi you've got another thing coming.
1998 A. O'Hanlon Talk of Town (1999) I. iv. 60 If you think you're getting into my knickers, you have another thing coming.

Feel a million filaments (Sund4r), Thursday, 9 July 2020 19:09 (five years ago)

As far as I can recall, I have never used this expression in either form, unless referring to the Judas Priest song or talking about which version might be correct.

Feel a million filaments (Sund4r), Thursday, 9 July 2020 19:10 (five years ago)

And I see that I have even posted that years ago! I spend too much time here.

Feel a million filaments (Sund4r), Thursday, 9 July 2020 19:14 (five years ago)

Had never heard of "Another Think Coming" till now.

The Fields o' Fat Henry (Tom D.), Thursday, 9 July 2020 19:18 (five years ago)

https://i.gifer.com/ZDS4.gif

neith moon (ledge), Thursday, 9 July 2020 19:25 (five years ago)

I feel absolutely certain that it is "another think coming," and it causes me great stress seeing people passionately arguing for "thing."

Lily Dale, Thursday, 9 July 2020 22:59 (five years ago)

the inevitable verbally slurring together the two words "think coming" sounds almost identical to the two words "thing coming", so in real time no one speaking this phrase needs to worry which is which. the rub comes when you have to write it down. obviously it began as "think coming", but the conventional mishearing makes just enough sense that it has overtaken the more sensible rendering. nbd.

the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Saturday, 11 July 2020 04:52 (five years ago)

one year passes...

just now happened on the judas priest song in the wild (spotify) and came here to discover this entire thread is actually abt how great my mum was

(btw it's THINK)

mark s, Thursday, 7 April 2022 11:27 (three years ago)

Great thread!

But I still say ‘Another thing coming’, coz I’d be inclined to use it aggressively rather than as a warning. I’m sure Alan Sugar says ‘thing’

jel--, Thursday, 7 April 2022 12:04 (three years ago)

"Another think coming" is too difficult to say.

Phil McCracken (Tom D.), Thursday, 7 April 2022 12:15 (three years ago)

I agree, I think only someone like Blackadder could pronounce it clearly - but this is possibly the crux of the problem

jel--, Thursday, 7 April 2022 12:21 (three years ago)

I just said it it’s very easy

wins, Thursday, 7 April 2022 12:25 (three years ago)

Not if you actually pronounce the K in think.

Phil McCracken (Tom D.), Thursday, 7 April 2022 12:31 (three years ago)

^because that’s not how you say it

wins, Thursday, 7 April 2022 12:43 (three years ago)

It is when I say it!

Phil McCracken (Tom D.), Thursday, 7 April 2022 12:53 (three years ago)

tbf I've never actually said this phrase before

Phil McCracken (Tom D.), Thursday, 7 April 2022 12:53 (three years ago)

what if you say it all the time but don't know yr saying it

mark s, Thursday, 7 April 2022 13:13 (three years ago)

this inadvertency is actually what the judas priest song is about

mark s, Thursday, 7 April 2022 13:14 (three years ago)

They're breakin' the laws breakin' the laws of grammar.

Phil McCracken (Tom D.), Thursday, 7 April 2022 13:25 (three years ago)

A lot of ppl also don’t know that it’s actually “think cummy Bob”

gop on ya gingrich (wins), Thursday, 7 April 2022 13:46 (three years ago)

thats right

mark s, Thursday, 7 April 2022 13:54 (three years ago)

I don’t want to think about cummy Bob

jel--, Thursday, 7 April 2022 14:03 (three years ago)


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