Long Distance Relationships?!?! What the fuck?!

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personX: ha ha and i found out my best friend kissed her illicit crush!
clobberthesaurus: Woo hoo!
personX: she is in [a place], her boyfriend is in [another place], and she snogged her coworker who may have a girlf
clobberthesaurus: Hahaha that's totally illicit!
personX: yeah
personX: and as i tell her 'well my advice is do him, but don't listen to me, i am trying to get as many boyf as possible'
clobberthesaurus: Why is her bf in [another place] though?
personX: but she want sto hear me say 'do him' so
personX: that is where she is from, but she moved to [a place] [a long time in my terms] ago
clobberthesaurus: Why do people have long distance relationships?
clobberthesaurus: I don't get it
personX: ha ha lets start a thread about it!
clobberthesaurus: I mean unless the ONE person is moving in like two months or something!?!?!
clobberthesaurus: I mean just break up and then get back on later if you both want to
personX: i think its a bit odd, myself

Seriously, I can see perpetuating an exclusive relationship if one person has moved for some reason and the other person is finishing some loose ends and will be along in a month or two, but what's the deal with people living miles and miles apart and not seeing each other for years at a time and maintaining COMPLETE fidelity to one another?

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Monday, 31 March 2003 01:23 (twenty-two years ago)

love?

RJG (RJG), Monday, 31 March 2003 01:29 (twenty-two years ago)

*snort*

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Monday, 31 March 2003 01:31 (twenty-two years ago)

Haha yeah that's why people are together to begin with I assume, but I just don't quite understand why anyone would demand complete fidelity from someone who was hundreds of miles away from them. If you love someone and believe they love you, can't you also trust each other to casually mess about with other people and not fall out of love with one another?

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Monday, 31 March 2003 01:33 (twenty-two years ago)

wow.

RJG (RJG), Monday, 31 March 2003 01:34 (twenty-two years ago)

If you loved someone wouldn't you, generally, not want to live a million miles from one another? I mean I can see some unusual circumstance cropping up that will prove this wrong, but in general how much can you love someone if you're willing to not see them for ages at a time?

Ally (mlescaut), Monday, 31 March 2003 01:35 (twenty-two years ago)

bang goes the sound of the head of the nail being struck

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Monday, 31 March 2003 01:39 (twenty-two years ago)

I could be wrong!

Ally (mlescaut), Monday, 31 March 2003 01:43 (twenty-two years ago)

I've never seen one work. Never.

Millar (Millar), Monday, 31 March 2003 01:49 (twenty-two years ago)

I have, they're getting married this summer.
I should call them.

Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Monday, 31 March 2003 01:55 (twenty-two years ago)

wow, just when i was starting to get back into wanting to check out ilx, here comes this thread, filled with 'what's up with that?' last-comedian-of-the-night shallowness.

love is work. and sometimes, circumstances add to that work. but if the people who are working through those circumstances are satisfied with their situation, who are you to judge? seriously. especially if you don't know the entirety of the circumstances. what if the people involved spent more time together than other couples who lived half the distance from one another? a quarter? it just seems like there are way too many assumptions being made here.

i have been in a long distance relationship (2 hours each way) for almost a year now -- i was living in the same city as my boyfriend for the first year we were together, then i got a job in new york after a spell of unemployment. at the same time, he got a free ride to grad school. he's done in march, and he's planning on moving to new york when he graduates. his weeknights are filled up with class and homework, and i work nights now. so we see each other every weekend (yes, *every* weekend -- he just left my apartment actually) and yeah, it's been hard, especially during the rougher patches both of us have endured since last may. but has it been worth it? i'd say yes, without reservations.

maura (maura), Monday, 31 March 2003 01:55 (twenty-two years ago)

millar did you ever think that maybe it's you?

jess (dubplatestyle), Monday, 31 March 2003 01:59 (twenty-two years ago)

No.

Millar (Millar), Monday, 31 March 2003 02:03 (twenty-two years ago)

you should start.

jess (dubplatestyle), Monday, 31 March 2003 02:03 (twenty-two years ago)

as should the rest of you. i know it's hard to think that your amazing inability to see how it could work out for these people and why they would be willing to sacrifice and work so much to achieve such a thing is down to the fact that they might be more committed and able to experience human emotions, but hey, give it a go.

jess (dubplatestyle), Monday, 31 March 2003 02:05 (twenty-two years ago)

the scary thing is if they DO work, sometimes its hard to live in the same town again afterwards.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 31 March 2003 02:05 (twenty-two years ago)

What the fuck, Jess. I'm sorry none of the people I know who have been in LD relationships are good enough for your gold standard. I suppose all of the people I know are just like me and us other shallow horndog bastards, completely incapable of actual human emotion or whatever you kids are calling it nowadays. I'll make it a priority to prove how great a person I am by putting myself through a couple of years of miserable phone calls and infrequent physical contact, okay? Is that good enough for you Mr. Harvell? Can I be in the club?

Millar (Millar), Monday, 31 March 2003 02:18 (twenty-two years ago)

Look I wasn't asking this question to be a dick (although I will admit that the "What the fuck" was a little over the top). I was seriously asking why, given the complete uncertainty inherent in any relationship and the extreme distances involved and the fact that the PEOPLE are NOT seeing one another for months if NOT years at a time, is a such a great emphasis placed on fidelity in so many long LONG long distance relationships? This isn't a personal attack on anyone (from me anyway).

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Monday, 31 March 2003 02:20 (twenty-two years ago)

god, again with the assumptions. why do the phone calls have to be 'miserable'?

maura (maura), Monday, 31 March 2003 02:20 (twenty-two years ago)

no, you can't tmillar.

RJG (RJG), Monday, 31 March 2003 02:21 (twenty-two years ago)

alex typing in all CAPS doesnt get your POINT any FURTHER

tom, i like you, but a lot of people on this board have a real problem determining where their brain ends the rest of the world begins

or, what maura said

jess (dubplatestyle), Monday, 31 March 2003 02:23 (twenty-two years ago)

they can be 'expensive' too (now I'm just being an ass)

Millar (Millar), Monday, 31 March 2003 02:23 (twenty-two years ago)

not if you get a 'cell phone' with 'free long distance'

welcome to the 21st century!!

maura (maura), Monday, 31 March 2003 02:25 (twenty-two years ago)

Haha it's called a question, Jess What you've been attempting to make over your last three posts are points.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Monday, 31 March 2003 02:26 (twenty-two years ago)

haha very clever haha

jess (dubplatestyle), Monday, 31 March 2003 02:28 (twenty-two years ago)

(DESPITE what you may THINK your "QUESTION" had a "POINT" or "SLANT" behind it which is EVIDENT just by READING it)

jess (dubplatestyle), Monday, 31 March 2003 02:30 (twenty-two years ago)

I found long distance relationships really difficult. Although I loved the party of the other part enough to try this 2x over. I have to say that fidelity never seemed to be the issue, instead it was things that may well have been problems if we were living in the same town. Although probably the way that seeing each other was expensive and timeconsuming didn't help. I really envy you Maura: it sounds like you have a much better set up than we did, so it will work out for you.

isadora (isadora), Monday, 31 March 2003 02:32 (twenty-two years ago)

i didn't work for me because (a) i felt worse when they were away than I did being long-term single, making the whole thing seem utterly pointless and (b) i start skirtchasing within days of them being away (being the total bastard that I am)

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Monday, 31 March 2003 02:36 (twenty-two years ago)

you didn't work for you.

RJG (RJG), Monday, 31 March 2003 02:37 (twenty-two years ago)

If you love someone and believe they love you, can't you also trust each other to casually mess about with other people and not fall out of love with one another?

I can imagine that this exists, but, speaking for myself, I have an easier time imagining a relationship in which the participants have no interest in casually messing about with other people even when separated.

felicity (felicity), Monday, 31 March 2003 02:37 (twenty-two years ago)

Yes, well I won't deny my personal slant, Jess. Anyway sorry to anyone I may have offended. I phrase my questions a little better next time.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Monday, 31 March 2003 02:38 (twenty-two years ago)

Dude, I wasn't knocking on it, I was genuinely curious as to how much love you can feel for someone you never actually see. 2hr long distance is different from cross country long distance, too. I mean if someone wants to go for it then that's great, I mean I've done it for various reasons and like I said there are circumstances that make each relationship different but in general I am confused by the idea of quite willingly living totally apart from a person you love - obv. there are circumstances that prevent people from just up and moving but I've seen a couple times now where one person moves to be with their big true love and ends up being all pissed off because they didn't really love the person as much as they thought, and they didn't want to move, so it's a concept that worries me a little in terms of what's happened to people I know.

That's all, my response to the question wasn't meant to be dicky, honestly.

Ally (mlescaut), Monday, 31 March 2003 02:39 (twenty-two years ago)

you didn't work for you.

so dreadfully selfish of me to not stay in a situation that was making me unhappy

(the skirtchasing was more of a red herring than a reason)

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Monday, 31 March 2003 02:40 (twenty-two years ago)

I mean I lived two hours' distance away from someone who I only got to see on the weekends and we lived in the same city.

Chris P (Chris P), Monday, 31 March 2003 02:40 (twenty-two years ago)

felicity = otm. but keeping the faith, as it were, can also be based upon denial or the need for safety, i would think.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Monday, 31 March 2003 02:43 (twenty-two years ago)

is a need for safety in one's life such a bad thing though? obv not when it's a sort of banal, routinized "safety" of being with someone you dont want to be with. but since when did "safety" in a relationship become so devalued in our XXXtreme world?

jess (dubplatestyle), Monday, 31 March 2003 02:46 (twenty-two years ago)

I was being funny, esoj, and something else, too.

RJG (RJG), Monday, 31 March 2003 02:48 (twenty-two years ago)

it seems to me on this thread there is a lot of "it wouldnt work for me, so it wont work for anyone"

i am hopeleslly naive and romantic maybe, but i dont see the problem with them, i guess i am low maintenance though (and can quite happily bumble along with my postcards and bus stations and whatever in the between times). maybe it is how you view relationships in general, if you are of the view that another will be along soon if your current one fails you would not take the risk of LD or anything that took a bit more than usual. if you think that special people come along pretty rarely, then you might want to throw caution to the wind and risk it.

gareth (gareth), Monday, 31 March 2003 02:49 (twenty-two years ago)

something else?

heck i don't really take myself that seriously so no worries

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Monday, 31 March 2003 02:49 (twenty-two years ago)

jess - no, not a bad thing at all. i was saying there can be gray area between the good safety and the "routinized" one, i.e. where you're dishonest with yourself about how much you want to be with someone.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Monday, 31 March 2003 02:51 (twenty-two years ago)

i find safety to be a real passion dampener

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Monday, 31 March 2003 02:52 (twenty-two years ago)

No, Gareth you are right, I did that once before too. I am expressing my point of view very badly on this thread. My main concern isn't judging people or that it can't work for them, it's just the question of why are they doing it and what are they doing to change the situation, if anything, and if they aren't doing anything to change it, does that say something?

Ally (mlescaut), Monday, 31 March 2003 02:52 (twenty-two years ago)

How are you defining safety, Jess?

Being in a relationship solely because you are scared of not being in a relationship?

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Monday, 31 March 2003 02:52 (twenty-two years ago)

i guess i'm just not as wacky, live-on-the-edge gen'xer as you are alex!

jess (dubplatestyle), Monday, 31 March 2003 02:55 (twenty-two years ago)

Hahahaha what are you talking about?!?!?!

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Monday, 31 March 2003 02:56 (twenty-two years ago)

alex if you can't see the barely disguised contempt in your last post, i dunno what to do with you anymore.

jess (dubplatestyle), Monday, 31 March 2003 02:57 (twenty-two years ago)

actually i was kinda thinking the same thing as Alex

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Monday, 31 March 2003 02:59 (twenty-two years ago)

well not "the same" but it was a component thereof

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Monday, 31 March 2003 02:59 (twenty-two years ago)

alex it's the fact that, like millar's defn of the 'phone call', your defn of 'safety' immediately shifts to the pejorative. even if you try to play the "i was just curious, guys, really" card, it's obvious from your tone that you really are dismissive of the whole concept. i mean, it strikes me as little more than silly, teenage "no one will ever tell me how to run my life, maaaaan" posturing.

jess (dubplatestyle), Monday, 31 March 2003 03:05 (twenty-two years ago)

Okay set aside my tone and my second question: what do mean by safety, Jess?

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Monday, 31 March 2003 03:08 (twenty-two years ago)

What tracer meant was that a woman needs a fish, like a man needs a bicycle.

ken c (ken c), Monday, 7 March 2005 12:41 (twenty years ago)

three months pass...
: /

c/n (Cozen), Saturday, 25 June 2005 19:38 (twenty years ago)

50 miles isn't very long -- but then again, I'm in America and so distances aren't very compressed at all. It'd be nice if I had a relationship with someone who was within 50 miles of me!

Ian Riese-Moraine eats nation-states for breakfast! (Eastern Mantra), Saturday, 25 June 2005 20:01 (twenty years ago)

50 miles is zilch. anyone less than three hours away does not count as long-distance.

monsanto and yanni (Jody Beth Rosen), Saturday, 25 June 2005 22:54 (twenty years ago)

Highly agreed.

Ian Riese-Moraine eats nation-states for breakfast! (Eastern Mantra), Saturday, 25 June 2005 23:06 (twenty years ago)

two years pass...

http://www.angeljustice.org/img/original/xl_1.jpg

roxymuzak, Thursday, 27 September 2007 07:36 (seventeen years ago)

http://images.wikia.com/uncyclopedia/images/thumb/a/a8/Etjackson.jpg/180px-Etjackson.jpg

chaki, Thursday, 27 September 2007 07:37 (seventeen years ago)

no interstellar distance could ever come between mj and et

latebloomer, Thursday, 27 September 2007 07:39 (seventeen years ago)

but unfortunately et's speedball overdose could:-(

latebloomer, Thursday, 27 September 2007 09:01 (seventeen years ago)

one year passes...

Hmph.

100 tons of hardrofl beyond zings (Just got offed), Friday, 3 October 2008 21:01 (sixteen years ago)

I'm completely crazy about her, but I'm also seeing sex in just about every woman I meet. She'll be away for over a year, and I will be able to visit her sporadically, but one month in and I'm feeling the strain. A further double-edged sword is that she totally loves me. Good in that she's definitely worth sticking with (she has just about every quality I could ask for in a girlfriend, barring perhaps insane impulsiveness), bad in that I wouldn't be able to break things off (if I wanted to) without feeling like complete shit. I don't want to at the moment, oh no, but I want her. Back. With me. Another thing is that I've made loads of verbal commitments to her, and if I'm gonna prove myself a real man, I'll have to honour them and see this out. But give it a few more months, and a few more provocative situations, and I might be wondering whether my hormonal wreck of a body is ready for monogamy yet.

N.B. I'm not gonna cheat on her. I'll never be able to look at myself in the mirror again. Unless she sanctions it, of course. ;)

100 tons of hardrofl beyond zings (Just got offed), Friday, 3 October 2008 21:12 (sixteen years ago)

Unless she sanctions it, of course. ;)

ban suggested

Jordan, Friday, 3 October 2008 21:16 (sixteen years ago)

seconded

MATT KEMP MADE FUN OF ME IN THE CLUBHOUSE (Alex in SF), Friday, 3 October 2008 21:17 (sixteen years ago)

I meant her sanctioning me looking in the mirror! ;)

Seriously, though, both of you fuck off.

100 tons of hardrofl beyond zings (Just got offed), Friday, 3 October 2008 21:21 (sixteen years ago)

HURR HURR SOME EASY-TARGET POSTER JUST MADE A QUESTIONABLE JOKE AT THE END OF A CAREFULLY-WORDED SERIOUS POST HURR SUGGEST BAN HURR HURR

"Suggest Ban" is a dick move imo, and will always be

100 tons of hardrofl beyond zings (Just got offed), Friday, 3 October 2008 21:24 (sixteen years ago)

i don't usually actually click suggest ban, it's more the spirit of the thing. relax, dude.

Jordan, Friday, 3 October 2008 21:29 (sixteen years ago)

http://images.cafepress.com/image/12541053_400x400.jpg

Maverick (Mr. Que), Friday, 3 October 2008 21:29 (sixteen years ago)

anyway this will probably end in tears, but that's part of being 21, right?

Jordan, Friday, 3 October 2008 21:30 (sixteen years ago)

ban suggested

and what, Friday, 3 October 2008 21:31 (sixteen years ago)

ban implied

s1ocki, Friday, 3 October 2008 21:32 (sixteen years ago)

Sorry, I'm just a bit uh er emotionally coiled this evening. What was the name of that "post-rock" band you were telling me to check out?

Yeah, well fortunately she's 25 so we got SOME maturity in this outfit! Ethan, you were always gonna suggest ban me, it's cool. :D

100 tons of hardrofl beyond zings (Just got offed), Friday, 3 October 2008 21:32 (sixteen years ago)

lou stay strong bro it's worth it

a passion for posting (J0rdan S.), Friday, 3 October 2008 21:32 (sixteen years ago)

http://www.myspace.com/cougarsound

Jordan, Friday, 3 October 2008 21:32 (sixteen years ago)

cheers jordans

100 tons of hardrofl beyond zings (Just got offed), Friday, 3 October 2008 21:34 (sixteen years ago)

louis if youre only one month in and you already are having trouble keeping your dick in your pants, you should probably just end it and save you both 6 months of terrible phone calls.

max, Friday, 3 October 2008 21:34 (sixteen years ago)

I was serious. I thought you wanted to be perma-banned.

MATT KEMP MADE FUN OF ME IN THE CLUBHOUSE (Alex in SF), Friday, 3 October 2008 21:35 (sixteen years ago)

max might be right but you gotta let her know that you're having issues if you haven't yet

a passion for posting (J0rdan S.), Friday, 3 October 2008 21:36 (sixteen years ago)

I think a good piece of advice is don't go to internet message boards for advice.

MATT KEMP MADE FUN OF ME IN THE CLUBHOUSE (Alex in SF), Friday, 3 October 2008 21:37 (sixteen years ago)

especially if you're letting the internet know about things you haven't told your girlfriend.

horseshoe, Friday, 3 October 2008 21:37 (sixteen years ago)

don't worry, she'll see it on the ytmnd

and what, Friday, 3 October 2008 21:39 (sixteen years ago)

Haha! I'm not having trouble keeping my dick in my pants, in that I haven't been SERIOUSLY tempted to make a move abroad. Also I'm gonna be visiting her quite a bit, flights to Germany are pretty cheap. In theory.

I've already told her that it's difficult and that I would ideally like to see more of her, it's not like we haven't chatted about this quite a bit.

As for the permaban request, that was in response to an emotional low, and another night fruitlessly posting in return for abuse. The mods argued wisely against it.

100 tons of hardrofl beyond zings (Just got offed), Friday, 3 October 2008 21:40 (sixteen years ago)

also lj, treat this like a thought experiment--you went what, 19 years without having sex? or whatever? if this girl is worth it, you can go another year. blaming your hormones isnt necc the best strategy--maybe you dont like her as much as you wish you did.

max, Friday, 3 October 2008 21:40 (sixteen years ago)

I'm not having trouble keeping my dick in my pants, in that I haven't been SERIOUSLY tempted to make a move on a broad

Jordan, Friday, 3 October 2008 21:41 (sixteen years ago)

This Cougar is fairly delectable fwiw.

Yeah, I realise now it wasn't wise bumping this thread, considering how ILX has changed since the initial posts here. Yet, Max, you gotta good point, and I'm regarding it as a challenge. I'm the one who pursued her, for a good long while, and I certainly like her more than most I've had a fancy for. We'll see.

100 tons of hardrofl beyond zings (Just got offed), Friday, 3 October 2008 21:43 (sixteen years ago)

"that was in response to an emotional low, and another night fruitlessly posting in return for abuse"

There are nights where your posts are fruitful? Or was the abuse fruitless that particular night?

MATT KEMP MADE FUN OF ME IN THE CLUBHOUSE (Alex in SF), Friday, 3 October 2008 21:43 (sixteen years ago)

he was abusing his fruit, one night

Maverick (Mr. Que), Friday, 3 October 2008 21:44 (sixteen years ago)

louis, if you pursued her for 'a good long while' and made all sorts of promises to her, and then broke up with her after a couple months cause you wanted to have sex with some english chick, that makes you an asshole.

max, Friday, 3 October 2008 21:45 (sixteen years ago)

Max, I said, I don't want to break up with her! It's just a potential strain! We've already been going out for over 3 months, btw.

Well, I joined ILX for the music. Despite everything else, ILM is pretty unparalleled as a resource of wisdom.

100 tons of hardrofl beyond zings (Just got offed), Friday, 3 October 2008 21:46 (sixteen years ago)

You didn't join to whine constantly about the state of your personal life? I bet no one here would've guessed that.

MATT KEMP MADE FUN OF ME IN THE CLUBHOUSE (Alex in SF), Friday, 3 October 2008 21:47 (sixteen years ago)

if you care about someone, don't post on the internet about how you're "seeing sex" in every other woman you meet! i'm assuming she doesn't know about ilx, but still.

horseshoe, Friday, 3 October 2008 21:48 (sixteen years ago)

if you care about someone, don't post on the internet about how you're "seeing sex" in every other woman you meet! i'm assuming she doesn't know about ilx, but still.

Maverick (Mr. Que), Friday, 3 October 2008 21:48 (sixteen years ago)

dont post on the internet about it, dont tell her friends about it, and please dont tell her about it.

max, Friday, 3 October 2008 21:50 (sixteen years ago)

True, horseshoe, but she knows I'm a wistful ol' horndog, and I'm grateful she trusts me to override that fact and stay faithful. I'm gonna do it. Positive thoughts!

Now, before this turns into a horrendous crapshoot...

100 tons of hardrofl beyond zings (Just got offed), Friday, 3 October 2008 21:51 (sixteen years ago)

What grown adult does this? unless you're in the military or travel often for your career.

burt_stanton, Friday, 3 October 2008 22:03 (sixteen years ago)

JESUS CHRIST, KID

El Tomboto, Friday, 3 October 2008 22:03 (sixteen years ago)

louis you need to get a diary or something

goole, Friday, 3 October 2008 22:05 (sixteen years ago)

I'll have iCal remind me in a couple of weeks to unlock this thread.

I'm the wire monkey, not the soft monkey (Rock Hardy), Friday, 3 October 2008 22:08 (sixteen years ago)

time to break up

homosexual II, Friday, 3 October 2008 22:08 (sixteen years ago)


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