This Is the Thread Where We Post Words We Don't Know How to Pronounce and Other ILXer's Spell Them Out Phonetically

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I've often wondered abt the popular potplant, Kalanchoë.

― MarkH (MarkH), Tuesday, 1 April 2003 12:52 (twenty-two years ago)

horseshit

― Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Tuesday, 1 April 2003 12:54 (twenty-two years ago)

sorry, I'm an ass, amn't I?

― Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Tuesday, 1 April 2003 12:55 (twenty-two years ago)

how does one say phonetic, yo?

― g-kit (g-kit), Tuesday, 1 April 2003 12:56 (twenty-two years ago)

that'd be assshit (three esses in a row, wow).

― MarkH (MarkH), Tuesday, 1 April 2003 12:56 (twenty-two years ago)

Kalanchoë is in the Merriam-Webster online dictionary and you can click to hear how it's pronounced (in America, at least).

― Alfie (Alfie), Tuesday, 1 April 2003 13:10 (twenty-two years ago)

how about asshat?

― Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Tuesday, 1 April 2003 13:11 (twenty-two years ago)

Only as two words: ass hat

They've got horse's ass.

― Alfie (Alfie), Tuesday, 1 April 2003 13:18 (twenty-two years ago)

this is the thread where i want a soundcard.

― g-kit (g-kit), Tuesday, 1 April 2003 13:19 (twenty-two years ago)

only for Americans though?

― Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Tuesday, 1 April 2003 13:20 (twenty-two years ago)

They've got horse's ass.

Yes, they do (do not click if you dislike centaur booty).

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 1 April 2003 13:34 (twenty-two years ago)

Ha, I wanted to post a link to 'eew' in response but they don't have it. I then tried 'ou' for a sound-a-like version and it came out with:
où sont les neiges d'antan?

― Alfie (Alfie), Tuesday, 1 April 2003 13:44 (twenty-two years ago)

RJG: is it "Gill - anders" or "Gillon -does"?

― MarkH (MarkH), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 08:28 (twenty-two years ago)

Gill-anders. hard G.

haha, are you making fun of my hatred of the cockney accent with the second guess?

― RJG (RJG), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 08:36 (twenty-two years ago)

actually it's more...Gi-llanders.

― RJG (RJG), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 08:38 (twenty-two years ago)

If it was cockney it'd be Giw-andas wouldn't it? I like it, and will use it in the future.

― chris (chris), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 08:48 (twenty-two years ago)

nitsuh
marcello

(mainly cos i said these names different to how electric sound of jim and tim finney said them at the fap. and yes we were talking about you!)
specifically: what is the 'uh' in nitsuh like, and how do you say the c in marcello?

― minna (minna), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 08:58 (twenty-two years ago)

Marcello is definitely "Mar - chello". I would guess "Nit -soo" for Nitsuh.

― MarkH (MarkH), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 08:59 (twenty-two years ago)

At the ILX CHicago FAP we debated the correct way to say "minger." Hepl?

― felicity (felicity), Tuesday, 8 April 2003 15:42 (twenty-two years ago)

It rhymes with "Isaac Bashevis Singer".

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 8 April 2003 15:50 (twenty-two years ago)

Told you so! I think "minj" is something else entirely.

― nabisco (nabisco), Tuesday, 8 April 2003 15:57 (twenty-two years ago)

Nabisco, could you please tell minna how to put the "uh" in nitsuh?

― felicity (felicity), Tuesday, 8 April 2003 16:00 (twenty-two years ago)

"matos"

― jess (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 8 April 2003 16:01 (twenty-two years ago)

Nabisco, could you please tell minna how to put the "uh" in nitsuh?

Urban legend says you start with some baby oil.

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 8 April 2003 16:04 (twenty-two years ago)

"MAAAH-tohss" or "MAAAH-tohss," even

― felicity (felicity), Tuesday, 8 April 2003 16:05 (twenty-two years ago)

(but Mary says I prounounce "FAP" as "fop" so maybe don't ask me)

― felicity (felicity), Tuesday, 8 April 2003 16:06 (twenty-two years ago)

btw, "harvell" is pronounced "hARvELL" not "harVUHll" or "carvel"

― jess (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 8 April 2003 16:09 (twenty-two years ago)

(actually i guess it is pronounced like "carvel")

― jess (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 8 April 2003 16:10 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh, and it's, umm, Ni-soo, Ni as in nickel and Soo as in Sue. The T is silent. Except it's not really silent, because it's meant to indicate a hard S sound that I can't really make. So I can't say my own name. So I pretend the T is silent.

― nabisco (nabisco), Tuesday, 8 April 2003 16:12 (twenty-two years ago)

As a sort of preemptive strike: It's pronounced "PYOO-muh". Two syllables. Thank you.

― Chris P (Chris P), Tuesday, 8 April 2003 16:13 (twenty-two years ago)

(Hahaha does anyone know if P.U. stands for something? "Pee-yew" in the "eww it stinks" way? Is it like O.K. or is it just a noise?)

― nabisco (nabisco), Tuesday, 8 April 2003 16:19 (twenty-two years ago)

Haha fuck you, Mr. T*

* (the T is silent).

― Chris P (Chris P), Tuesday, 8 April 2003 16:23 (twenty-two years ago)

(Er, smiley implied, of course.)

― Chris P (Chris P), Tuesday, 8 April 2003 16:24 (twenty-two years ago)

Does anybody else smell that?

― nabisco (nabisco), Tuesday, 8 April 2003 16:25 (twenty-two years ago)

Amarone and abalone. Is there a long E at the end? Three syllables or four?

― Kitten With A Whip, Tuesday, 8 April 2003 16:27 (twenty-two years ago)

I pity the foo', Ni-soo.

― Chris P (Chris P), Tuesday, 8 April 2003 16:27 (twenty-two years ago)

"Jody" -- rhymes with the 1980 Meat Loaf vehicle Roadie.

http://www.daserste.de/rudolph/roadie.jpg

― Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 8 April 2003 16:28 (twenty-two years ago)

It's pronounced "PYOO-muh".

Just like Pumaman!

I feel silly for thinking Nitsuh's name was pronounced entirely differently than it is for so long.

― Nicole (Nicole), Tuesday, 8 April 2003 16:29 (twenty-two years ago)

"PYOO-nah-nee"

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 8 April 2003 16:31 (twenty-two years ago)

It never occurred to me I could be pronouncing Matos wrongly. But then you are the country who eats pAAAHsta.

Amarone, abalone, calzone, whatever - yes, you pronounce the last letter. Again, unless you're American. Linguistic imperialism!

― Mark C (Mark C), Tuesday, 8 April 2003 16:32 (twenty-two years ago)

Yes, just like Pumaman (which I still haven't seen).

― Chris P (Chris P), Tuesday, 8 April 2003 16:33 (twenty-two years ago)

All my Italian relatives who were born in the old country drop the last syllable in "calzone", etc. I'm not saying that's any sort of proof, but.

― Chris P (Chris P), Tuesday, 8 April 2003 16:35 (twenty-two years ago)

Ned should tape Pumaman for you, it's wonderful.

― Nicole (Nicole), Tuesday, 8 April 2003 16:37 (twenty-two years ago)

Well someone should. I'll bet there are all sorts of hidden jokes about me in it that none of you even got.

― Chris P (Chris P), Tuesday, 8 April 2003 16:37 (twenty-two years ago)

seven months pass...

Geir Hongro

― man, Sunday, 16 November 2003 10:33 (twenty-two years ago)

mis-ter ha-ha.

― RJG (RJG), Sunday, 16 November 2003 10:37 (twenty-two years ago)

Re: Matos: Sometimes I say "MAH-tose," as Felicity described above. But sometimes I get lazy and say "MAH-dose." Is that ridiculously wrong?

― jaymc (jaymc), Sunday, 16 November 2003 17:33 (twenty-two years ago)

not matt-oss, then?

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 16 November 2003 22:12 (twenty-two years ago)

Autechre
Haight
Adrian Tomine

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Sunday, 16 November 2003 22:14 (twenty-two years ago)

"Matos" is pronounced startlingly, in all caps and with at least three exclamation points

― Keith Harris (kharris1128), Sunday, 16 November 2003 22:24 (twenty-two years ago)

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But Eye-Dull would make it the same as Idol, which it clearly is not.

― Citizen Kate (kate), Monday, 17 November 2003 10:50 (twenty-two years ago)

Ah, one should actually read threads before posting.

Ih-DILL!

― Sarah (starry), Monday, 17 November 2003 10:50 (twenty-two years ago)

You are all completely fucking insane.

― Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Monday, 17 November 2003 10:54 (twenty-two years ago)

Does anyone who isn't a redneck say eye-talian?

I say ih-dill. And wuh-tuh-fuh. Me and Starry mindmeld

― Markelby (Mark C), Monday, 17 November 2003 11:00 (twenty-two years ago)

It's definitely Ih-dill. The dictionary confirms it (if I am reading my phonetic symbols right.) Though not sure if that dictionary includes American variant pronunciations.

― Archel (Archel), Monday, 17 November 2003 11:08 (twenty-two years ago)

See, HSA whacked me with the Shorter Oxford English Dictionary to prove himself right, but I will not concede until I hear what Mr. Webster (much though I disagree with his Speling) has to say on the matter.

― Citizen Kate (kate), Monday, 17 November 2003 11:10 (twenty-two years ago)

Actually I can confirm that hitting oneself (not tried being hit by someone else) with a dictionary/word reference tome not only improves word-power but also gives you a corker of a bruise to impress yr mates! I whacked myself over the head with the Chambers OSWI after a particularly poor game of Scrabble - in the next game I scored my highest points EVER.

― Sarah (starry), Monday, 17 November 2003 12:39 (twenty-two years ago)

Once we have installed our exciting new network version Macmillan dictionary, I can listen to pronunciation on that. Woo! (though given how long it takes technicians to do anything round here it will be 2050 and all current pronunciation guidelines will probably be redundant).

― Archel (Archel), Monday, 17 November 2003 13:02 (twenty-two years ago)

Okay, it's not a pronunciation question, but I've seen both of these forms, which is right?:

"By the by"
"By the bye"

― Skottie, Monday, 17 November 2003 21:15 (twenty-two years ago)

Okay -

is "hstencil" pronounced "aitch-stencil" (or "haitch"-ugh) or "huh-stencil"????

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Monday, 17 November 2003 21:17 (twenty-two years ago)

aitch, unless you is dumm.

― RJG (RJG), Monday, 17 November 2003 21:19 (twenty-two years ago)

explain me "abhorrent"

― quincie, Monday, 17 November 2003 21:21 (twenty-two years ago)

aitch, unless you is dumm.

I know, but I like to amuse myself by thinking "huh-stencil"..

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Monday, 17 November 2003 21:25 (twenty-two years ago)

I usually think Eff Ay Pee, instead of "fap." However, this goes out the window when using constructions like, "Where are we FAPping tonight?"

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 17 November 2003 21:26 (twenty-two years ago)

Adam, let me know if you find out anything about "Adrian Tomine."

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 17 November 2003 21:27 (twenty-two years ago)

Kyle says

"adrian toh-meen-a"

and he kind of knows him, tangentially.

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Monday, 17 November 2003 21:28 (twenty-two years ago)

The second e in Leee is silent.

― Leee Majors (Leee), Monday, 17 November 2003 22:09 (twenty-two years ago)

it is "toh- min - aye"

I went to college with him. And Dan Clowes' wife. Please do not ask me for their addresses so you can stalk them.

― anthony kyle monday (akmonday), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 03:43 (twenty-two years ago)

Can you give me their addresses so I can stalk them?

― Casuistry (Chris P), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 04:36 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh yah, I found out in a decal class that Mrs. Dan Clowes was a GSI there.

― Leee Majors (Leee), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 05:44 (twenty-two years ago)

Kyle, is that "aye" as in the letter "A" or as in the opposite of "nay"?

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 06:57 (twenty-two years ago)

four years pass...

jacques barzun

― roxymuzak, Tuesday, 4 March 2008 21:57 (seventeen years ago)

Roxy, do you know that nasal and somewhat indistinct final 'n' sound in French? "Le vin, le pain, le Boursin" shit? His last name is barz + midway betwen 'a' as in 'dad' and 'u' as in 'but' but a tad more schwa + that weird nasal sound.

"Nasal: n and m. When n or m follows a vowel or diphthong, the n or m becomes silent and causes the preceding vowel to become nasalized (i.e. pronounced with the soft palate extended downward so as to allow part of the air to leave through the nostrils). Exceptions are when the n or m is doubled, or immediately followed by a vowel. The prefixes en- and em- are always nasalized. The rules get more complex than this but may vary between dialects." From Wiki

― Michael White, Tuesday, 4 March 2008 22:30 (seventeen years ago)

Thankig U!

― roxymuzak, Tuesday, 4 March 2008 22:39 (seventeen years ago)

You're very welcome

― Michael White, Tuesday, 4 March 2008 22:40 (seventeen years ago)

Los Feliz

― felicity, Tuesday, 4 March 2008 22:41 (seventeen years ago)

Angeleno way: Los FEE-liz
En Espanol: Los FAY-leez

Where Los is like the o and s in ghost.

― nickn, Thursday, 6 March 2008 00:28 (seventeen years ago)

Isn't it Los fay-LEEZ? Like as in fay-LEEZ nav-i-DAD"?

― Hurting 2, Thursday, 6 March 2008 00:38 (seventeen years ago)

Could be, but I thought Spanish needed an accent mark to emphasize the last syllable, because the next to last is the default for emphasis. Mayb e in Spanish (as opposed to LA-ish) it does have the mark.

― nickn, Thursday, 6 March 2008 01:21 (seventeen years ago)

Los FAY-leez

― gabbneb, Thursday, 6 March 2008 03:30 (seventeen years ago)

^^^
new yorker

― max, Thursday, 6 March 2008 04:01 (seventeen years ago)

Thanks! Although I am still not totally sure. Steve Shasta corrected me once, that's when I realized.

It's pretty hard word for me to pronounce in the first place (Asian lisp, difficulty 8.5/10), even without the controversy.

― felicity, Thursday, 6 March 2008 17:07 (seventeen years ago)

Adrian Tomine = toe mee neh

Los feliz = Lohse Feel iz

― Steve Shasta, Thursday, 6 March 2008 20:50 (seventeen years ago)

Los feliz en espanol = Los fehLEEZ

― Steve Shasta, Thursday, 6 March 2008 20:52 (seventeen years ago)

Could be, but I thought Spanish needed an accent mark to emphasize the last syllable, because the next to last is the default for emphasis.

Next-to-last syllable is default only for words ending in vowels, "n," and "s." Otherwise it's the last syllable (e.g., Fe-LIZ Nav-i-DAD).

― jaymc, Thursday, 6 March 2008 20:56 (seventeen years ago)

exacto

― Hurting 2, Thursday, 6 March 2008 21:17 (seventeen years ago)

Next-to-last syllable is default only for words ending in vowels, "n," and "s." Otherwise it's the last syllable (e.g., Fe-LIZ Nav-i-DAD).

Not true.

― jim, Thursday, 6 March 2008 21:20 (seventeen years ago)

also really the "fe" part is somewhere in between "feh" and "fay"

― Hurting 2, Thursday, 6 March 2008 21:20 (seventeen years ago)

Oh sorry I miss read. lol.

― jim, Thursday, 6 March 2008 21:20 (seventeen years ago)

Hurting 2 fucking xpost

and yet you jersey-fiedly pronounced it Fay-Leez = exwackto

spanish "e" is a schwa sound not the approximate of a long "a" in english.

Steve Shasta
Wakeboarding Magazine

― Steve Shasta, Thursday, 6 March 2008 21:22 (seventeen years ago)

also really the "fe" part is ~~somewhere in between~~ "feh" ~~and "fay"~~
-- Hurting 2, Thursday, March 6, 2008 1:20 PM (1 minute ago)

fixed

― Steve Shasta, Thursday, 6 March 2008 21:23 (seventeen years ago)

dear shasta,

actually my Spanish pronunciation is pretty fucking good according to native speakers. I only used "fay" because that was what was used in the prior example.

spanish "e" is not the exact equivalent of a schwa either, dick

It's not Fuh-leez

― Hurting 2, Thursday, 6 March 2008 21:25 (seventeen years ago)

Los Angeles
Los Feliz Silverlake
Beverly Hills Hollywood
Franklin Hills Hillhurst

This town is murder on my lisp.

― felicity, Thursday, 6 March 2008 21:29 (seventeen years ago)

wtf are you guys arguing about

― max, Thursday, 6 March 2008 21:32 (seventeen years ago)

Maybe people are hung over from Dazzle Ships. :)

Thanks for trying everyone. I am hopeless.

― felicity, Thursday, 6 March 2008 21:38 (seventeen years ago)

Oh wait, maybe I do so say FEH-leez. I think my grandmother has corrected my pronunciation, but I still like my version better.

Guess I how I used to pronounce "tamalpais" :D

― gabbneb, Thursday, 6 March 2008 21:40 (seventeen years ago)

all I'm saying is that there's a subtle difference between the "e" in "feliz" and the "felicity"

― Hurting 2, Thursday, 6 March 2008 22:23 (seventeen years ago)

the "e" in "felicity

― Hurting 2, Thursday, 6 March 2008 22:31 (seventeen years ago)

how do i pronounce the last part of the title of the book 'le grand meaulnes'? moans?

― remy bean, Thursday, 6 March 2008 22:32 (seventeen years ago)

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