FAP, Camber Sands?

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Friday night, the Queen Vic.

ally c, cbrassica, jonny#5, lixi, madchen in uniform, missvicky & I will be there. Anyone else?

― Mooro (Mooro), Tuesday, 1 April 2003 17:03 (twenty-three years ago)

I could be! Do you need ATP tickets to get to it?

― Graham (graham), Tuesday, 1 April 2003 17:13 (twenty-three years ago)

Er, yes. Wristbands a go go.

― Mooro (Mooro), Tuesday, 1 April 2003 17:21 (twenty-three years ago)

No then (I live in Rye, see).

― Graham (graham), Tuesday, 1 April 2003 17:47 (twenty-three years ago)

R! I see.

― Mooro (Mooro), Tuesday, 1 April 2003 18:38 (twenty-three years ago)

er, I have one from two years ago you could borrow (ppl will be telling me they do something sly & underhand like change the colour each year, I can tell).

― MarkH (MarkH), Tuesday, 1 April 2003 18:39 (twenty-three years ago)

surely the problem with meeting in the Queen Vic is that it is a loud noisy pub full of people, therefore you will not know which people there are ILXORs and which are not?

this all founders on the fact that I know what Mooro & Lixi look like, of course.

not that I'm actually going, or anything.

― DV (dirtyvicar), Tuesday, 1 April 2003 19:12 (twenty-three years ago)

ILXORs have a lingering reflection of the words "New Answers" in their eyes.

Plus, anyone can spot an interweb mentalist across a crowded pub.

― Mooro (Mooro), Tuesday, 1 April 2003 19:54 (twenty-three years ago)

Surely almost everyone at ATP is an interweb mentalist of some description? Can you identify sub-species?

― N. (nickdastoor), Tuesday, 1 April 2003 21:39 (twenty-three years ago)

What time will you folks be there?

― Andrew L (Andrew L), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 05:59 (twenty-three years ago)

Friday afternoon I would have thought, apart from Jonnie who will be coming down a bit later that night. Firts thing to do when we get our chalets = to set up the drinks cabinet.

I am so looking forward to it, I really need the break from reality.

― chris (chris), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 06:16 (twenty-three years ago)

What are we going to take booze wise? Can't take too much, the car won't take it. Unless we all do some serious clothes V booze packing.

Can someone do photos, so others will recognise us? Or maybe not..

Should we sort out a time? How about 6.30? We'd only be missing Sluta Leta (fantastic name, but they're only on 15 mins) and skams djs.

― Vicky (Vicky), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 06:57 (twenty-three years ago)

a spirit only rule?

I want to see the Mark E smith comedy circus at 9 and everything after that, but yeah, we should warm up in the Vic, probably in remote wanking corner.

― chris (chris), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 06:59 (twenty-three years ago)

andrew, you will be able to spot their chalet as it will be MADE ENTIRELY FROM BOUZE...

vicky, you only need like 2 clothes, how much room can it take?

i am not going either

― CarsmileSteve (CarsmileSteve), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 07:00 (twenty-three years ago)

TY for the tip-off Steve. The chalet I'm in will be made entirely from hemp.

The remote wanking corner = the second stage?

― Andrew L (Andrew L), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 07:11 (twenty-three years ago)

Nope, it's the raised bit with long seats just as you come in the side door of the bar.

― chris (chris), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 07:12 (twenty-three years ago)

Bah humbug, I'm not going either. But I will get some sleep this weekend! Thus, I will not terrify people I meet at sunrise in the middle of the camp. Because I won't be there. However, I may terrify people I meet at sunrise in my house, odds 2-1 at present.

Enjoy the bouzing, chaps, and don't forget to become completely enraged when someone chucks their uncooked breakfast at your chalet window.

― Liz :x (Liz :x), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 07:15 (twenty-three years ago)

I am not going because of my exams and the fact that Peter still hasn't come up with a competent excuse.

― Lara (Lara), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 07:18 (twenty-three years ago)

Breakfast - thanks Liz, you've reminded me to start the shopping list (see Hey, Now That's What I Call Organised! - I just can't help myself)

― Vicky (Vicky), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 07:19 (twenty-three years ago)

Liz, it was cooked. And the protagonists aren't going to the best of my knowledge.

― chris (chris), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 07:21 (twenty-three years ago)

there was a naked skateboarder the year I went.

― MarkH (MarkH), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 07:21 (twenty-three years ago)

I have the photos of him, quite disturbing.

as was the wig!

― chris (chris), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 07:22 (twenty-three years ago)

Merkin?

― Lara (Lara), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 07:23 (twenty-three years ago)

Louis XV

― chris (chris), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 07:24 (twenty-three years ago)

Ah.

― Lara (Lara), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 07:29 (twenty-three years ago)

Hello. I need someone who is free tomorrow during the day in London to do generally nothing as I will be flying in at around midday and will be hanging around like a vagrant. Thank you.

― Ally C (Ally C), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 07:39 (twenty-three years ago)

I will come meet you as soon as I finish work AC, also I will be meeting other people. We need to pick up JD's bag too.

― chris (chris), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 07:42 (twenty-three years ago)

What time will you be getting into central london?

I can get in early, and finish work at about 4.30. You should go and do something cultured, like go to Tate modern, or somat.

― Vicky (Vicky), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 07:44 (twenty-three years ago)

The eggs on the window were raw when thrown, but became cooked by the sun (& the rage of the mad throat stabber).

Ally C should wear his Prima Chaletrina t-shirt!

― Mooro (Mooro), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 08:49 (twenty-three years ago)

If anyone is in need of a ticket, I am trying to sell one. Make me an offer (i.e. I am willing to sell it for less than face value at this point).

― Steve.n. (sjkirk), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 11:09 (twenty-three years ago)

2p?

― Lara (Lara), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 11:10 (twenty-three years ago)

If you're outside the gates friday evening Lara, and I've not sold it you can have it for 2p.

― Steve.n. (sjkirk), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 11:12 (twenty-three years ago)

I'll have it.

― the pinefox, Wednesday, 2 April 2003 11:13 (twenty-three years ago)

How much?

― Steve.n. (sjkirk), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 11:14 (twenty-three years ago)

Is this going to get nasty?

― Lara (Lara), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 11:14 (twenty-three years ago)

don't lose any silverware/plates this time.

― phil-two (phil-two), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 11:15 (twenty-three years ago)

Tho I did email graham and say he can have it for a pint if it gets to the point that I'm giving it away. I don't want to give it away tho cos that's 116 quid I've lost, boo hoo.

― Steve.n. (sjkirk), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 11:16 (twenty-three years ago)

Eeep! Maybe you should start an E-bay-style-bidding-war-thread?

― Lara (Lara), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 11:18 (twenty-three years ago)

I think I already have!

Okay who will give me 3p?

― Steve.n. (sjkirk), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 11:22 (twenty-three years ago)

Ok - 3p!

― Lara (Lara), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 11:24 (twenty-three years ago)

Are you not going Steve?

I heard of someone wanting a ticket. But if PF has bagged it.....

― chris (chris), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 11:25 (twenty-three years ago)

[I will bid against myself for comedy purposes until the heat is on at around 20p]

― Lara (Lara), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 11:26 (twenty-three years ago)

Yeah I'm going but a friend dropped out. I think I'm actually going to get the money back, but didn't think I'd get much sympathy (hah!) if I said "cos that's 116 quid a friend has lost".

― Steve.n. (sjkirk), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 11:28 (twenty-three years ago)

I've heard of lots of people wanting tickets too chris, but all of them decide they can't afford it when they're faced with the reality buying it.

― Steve.n. (sjkirk), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 11:29 (twenty-three years ago)

Okay I hear 20p.

― Steve.n. (sjkirk), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 11:30 (twenty-three years ago)

I'll point someone in your direction, she knows the cost I believe.

Should we have a FAP tomorrow night as there's a lot of meeting/bag swapping/ticket buying going on?

― chris (chris), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 11:30 (twenty-three years ago)

I stand bravely behind a new 20p bid.

― Lara (Lara), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 11:31 (twenty-three years ago)

Chris, a FAP's a great idea but it would be more convenient for me if you were to have it in Dublin.

― Lara (Lara), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 11:32 (twenty-three years ago)

I think a FAP is U&K for people not going but who want to see that soppy Glasgow lot.

― Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 11:33 (twenty-three years ago)

one of them anyway!

― chris (chris), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 11:34 (twenty-three years ago)

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So, where we meeting up tonight? And are we arranging a FAP at Camber Sands or what?

― Vicky (Vicky), Thursday, 3 April 2003 05:55 (twenty-three years ago)

Heh, pick somewhere nice in town for tonight, pref. Sam Smiths as you know what we're like. John Snow? As for ATP you can do what you flipping well like, so nerr :P

― Liz :x (Liz :x), Thursday, 3 April 2003 06:11 (twenty-three years ago)

Right, Tonight = John Snow on Broadwick street, on the corner (aptly) of Hopkins Street. From - whenever you get there, I may be late as I've got a meeting I have to go to.

Tomorrow - Queen Vic, remwank corner, from sixish.

― chris (chris), Thursday, 3 April 2003 07:24 (twenty-three years ago)

you were joking about pienfox guitar, right? right?

― gareth (gareth), Thursday, 3 April 2003 07:32 (twenty-three years ago)

Does someone ATPing want to start a separate thread for all the Lahdahn types who have been (like me) completely ignoring this thread?

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 3 April 2003 07:35 (twenty-three years ago)

get the pinefox to rap instead!

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Thursday, 3 April 2003 08:19 (twenty-three years ago)

Attention any ILXOR ATPers who know what I look like -- ie Chris and Lixi only probably: I will be there too so be nice and say hello and forgive me if I am very drunk...

― alext (alext), Thursday, 3 April 2003 09:35 (twenty-three years ago)

I thoroughly disapprove of keeping a London FAP hidden on a thread about ATP at Camber Sands, and only telling me about it on the day! I shall endeavour to come anyway, and will be there before 6pm. For anyone who hasn't met me (Chris and Lixi are not always among the first there), there is a photo on my profile here. I'll be in a suit.

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Thursday, 3 April 2003 10:04 (twenty-three years ago)

we only decided to really have it today Martin!

― chris (chris), Thursday, 3 April 2003 10:09 (twenty-three years ago)

Reporting Back...

― the pinefox, Tuesday, 8 April 2003 15:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Music:

Good: The Fall, The Magic Band, the dub reggae played by the Rhythm & Sound DJ's before Andrea Parker & Mira Calix came on. The bloke wrapped in plastic who did his ironing so meticulously on stage during the last mentioneds set.

Interesting: Jim O'Rourke

It was an experience: Public Enemy

For the rest.

Nice chalet people. We upheld our corner of the pub for the fifth year. Starfish & building dams on the beach. A lot of booze. A lot more drugs being ingested around the site then I have seen before. A act on stage sounding like a box of angry bees. All the acts downstairs sounding the same as one another. Security very lax compared to previous years. I couldn't be bothered to buy the ATP CD this year. Someone asking for the P F to busk on the beach. A big ilXor announcement being made (can I start a thread, guys?) Bowling, darts, no trampolining or footie. A lot of food. One punter brought an ice cream-maker along. No nekkid sk8er boys. Exploding pandas. The seagulls are now as fat as mutants. Sunshine dazzling off the waves. Fun with Jelly Belly beans. Ally C dancing in his pants. Early nights.

Will that do for a start?

― Mooro (Mooro), Tuesday, 8 April 2003 15:50 (twenty-three years ago)

yes David, you can.

I forgot about the bloke ironing, he was great, apart from the scary mask. And the dub slection from rythm and sound was the second best dj performance of the weekend (after the pub late on Monday morning)

― chris (chris), Tuesday, 8 April 2003 19:01 (twenty-three years ago)

quite surprised that The Fall are still good. I've seen them twice, in 1991 and 1996, the latter occasion without Craig Scanlon and Steve Hanley. 1991 was fantastic - amongst the top 5 gigs of my life. '96 was so-so. And I thought they'd got worse. I'm beginning to think that i prolly won't go to another ATP, as there seem to be fewer & fewer acts I've heard of, but at the same time I appreciate that someone's bound to say "duh! It's not about the music!" right?

― MarkH (MarkH), Tuesday, 8 April 2003 19:33 (twenty-three years ago)

this year was so not about the music.

― chris (chris), Tuesday, 8 April 2003 19:39 (twenty-three years ago)

In my experience and that of friends, you can pretty much roll a die to decide how good the Fall are liable to me on any given night, and this has been true for a very long time.

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Tuesday, 8 April 2003 20:22 (twenty-three years ago)

would've liked to have seen A Guy Called Gerald, but prolly not this year. around the time of "Voodoo Ray" maybe! There was a lot of good stuff on the "Automanikk" album, which I recall was not partcularly well-recieved at the time.

― MarkH (MarkH), Tuesday, 8 April 2003 20:41 (twenty-three years ago)

But how do they know what you have thrown on your die? This is hocus pocus.

― N. (nickdastoor), Tuesday, 8 April 2003 20:43 (twenty-three years ago)

Next year will be lots better than this one, what with Mogwai, Tortoise & Shellac curating a day each. That's two bands I want to see play for a start!

― Mooro (Mooro), Tuesday, 8 April 2003 20:43 (twenty-three years ago)

Dr Sean said that watching A Guy Called Gerald play 'Voodoo Ray' a couple of nights ago lead to him having a transcendental experience.

― Mooro (Mooro), Tuesday, 8 April 2003 20:45 (twenty-three years ago)

2001 was v. good, esp. Tortoise, Broadcast and Yo La Tengo. There was debate on Saturday (sinister bowling) abt the pronunciation of Shellac. Apparently, it is "shell ark".

― MarkH (MarkH), Tuesday, 8 April 2003 20:50 (twenty-three years ago)

did any of you see serious carl craig? if so how was he?

― Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 8 April 2003 20:53 (twenty-three years ago)

And Tortoise = Tort 'waas according to some.

― Mooro (Mooro), Tuesday, 8 April 2003 20:58 (twenty-three years ago)

torr-toyce

I said I'll go to next year's.

― RJG (RJG), Tuesday, 8 April 2003 21:19 (twenty-three years ago)

The funniest thing about Public Enemy was Chuck D getting everyone to join hands in solidarity against the war, "but this ain't no gay shit". Also, were the S1s really wearing bullet proof vests? To fend off marauding seagulls, maybe? They went off the boil right when they decided to introduce the band (I'll allow them every audience participation cliche in the book apart from this). Fight the Power wasn't too great, partly because the band introduction thing came in the middle of it. It all went off the boil after that, although mad Flav moments kept me there until the end.

Has anyone mentioned that we were evacuated from the building? And there was a chopper with a searchlight too. Gangsta!

― Madchen (Madchen), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 14:42 (twenty-three years ago)

Reportette Back (just remembered some more, having looked through photos):

Banana sculptures

Lixi beatific in a blanket

One-eyed doll, hanging

― Mooro (Mooro), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 18:43 (twenty-three years ago)

The funniest thing about Public Enemy was Chuck D getting everyone to join hands in solidarity against the war, "but this ain't no gay shit".

Chuck D's homophobia has always bugged the fuck out of me...

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 19:37 (twenty-three years ago)

I thought ally said it was griff that said that, haha.

― RJG (RJG), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 20:27 (twenty-three years ago)

Was it Griff? They all looked the same to me (due to DISTANCE AND DARKNESS OF AUDITORIUM, this ain't no racist shit)

― Madchen (Madchen), Thursday, 10 April 2003 11:47 (twenty-three years ago)

i thought it was fantastic when flavor flav was escorted off stage muttering about ladies meeting up with him later, because he likes that kinda shit...no, i thought PE was the best act of the weekend.

i'm also thinking that next year's lineup is bound to be great. and i could be wrong, but i'm pretty sure that 'tortoise' isn't said 'torr-toyce,' that's the english version. as a chicago band, i assume they say it the american way, which is 'torr-tos'. (when i heard it the english way first,a few months ago, i couldn't stop giggling. sorry about that)

― colette (a2lette), Thursday, 10 April 2003 12:35 (twenty-three years ago)

Another memory that's just come back to me: Somebody finds a mobile phone under a seat in the Queen Vic. Somebody goes through the phone book and sees the name David Gedge. "Hey," shouts somebody, "let's phone David Gedge!" Somebody passes the phone to Ally C, who presses the Call button. Fortunately, there is no reception.

― Madchen (Madchen), Friday, 11 April 2003 09:39 (twenty-three years ago)

Ah, no reception. You're making me homesick.

― Graham (graham), Friday, 11 April 2003 09:55 (twenty-three years ago)

No No Colette. We don't say tor-toyce. Unless we're trying to be funny. It's more taught'ss.

― Mark C (Mark C), Friday, 11 April 2003 10:50 (twenty-three years ago)

and the US pronumciation is more "tordus", shurely?

― MarkH (MarkH), Friday, 11 April 2003 11:01 (twenty-three years ago)

maybe it was scottish people saying it that way? they seemed honestly baffled when i said it like an american...

― colette (a2lette), Friday, 11 April 2003 11:06 (twenty-three years ago)

I say taw toyce sometimes, it may be a northern thing

― chris (chris), Friday, 11 April 2003 11:18 (twenty-three years ago)

eight months pass...

this year, week 2?

― cozen¡ (Cozen), Monday, 5 January 2004 00:55 (twenty-two years ago)

I very much want to go to week 2, still trying to get 2 more peeps.

― Nik (Nik), Monday, 5 January 2004 02:06 (twenty-two years ago)

B-but Boredoms are only playing the first w/end

― Andrew L (Andrew L), Monday, 5 January 2004 08:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Yay. I think a FAP around 4am in the pub might be fun. I'm going to week 2.

― jellybean (jellybean), Monday, 5 January 2004 08:50 (twenty-two years ago)

we've had tickets for week 1 since before they announced the lineup...so hopefully it'll be a good one!

― colette (a2lette), Monday, 5 January 2004 11:43 (twenty-two years ago)

don't bother unless you're really into the bands. last year they made no effort at putting on a 'rest of festival' after all. i worked out that for the same money (possibly cheaper) i could have gone to benicassim and seen lots of bands i actually LIKED.

that said: cat power; fiery furnaces; stephen malkmus - it has potential..

― hobart paving (hobart paving), Monday, 5 January 2004 11:53 (twenty-two years ago)

last year, the "rest of the festival" was the best bit!!!

That said, Barry whatshisface didn't actually organise me proposing to Vicky. Best music last year was in the bar on the Monday morning at 3am - it was fantastic.

― chris (chris), Monday, 5 January 2004 11:57 (twenty-two years ago)

yes, you're right about that actually - but for me, most of that was the fun we made ourselves, seeing friends, going to the beach, getting drunk in chalets - that sort of thing. i may be getting all dewy-eyed and nostalgic, but i seem to remember that even in the couple of years before last they had at least made SOME effort to put something else besides the bands on. none last year. if i have to make my own entertainment, i can probably do that at home while nobody is looking..

i remember walking into the queen vic on the sunday night and they were playing amy stewart's 'knock on wood'. to me, after everything else i had listened to that weekend, it sounded like the best thing i had EVER heard.

actually, it is quite a nice song.

i think someone said it was northern soul monday morning 3 a.m.? i had given up by that point.

― hobart paving (hobart paving), Monday, 5 January 2004 12:04 (twenty-two years ago)

it was, and it was great, me and Jonnie danced our arses off.

― chris (chris), Monday, 5 January 2004 12:08 (twenty-two years ago)

i had so much fun last year, and a lot of it was just close-quarters hanging with my friends, kind of going on first dates with my now boyfriend, and doing little field trips (to the lighthouse, the mini train, that famous guy's house, pubs in rye) etc.

i'm sure this year can't possibly live up to it, but i'm even more excited about the bands. and trans am will be there. and maybe i can hang out with them. which i've wanted to do for about 6 years or something.

― colette (a2lette), Monday, 5 January 2004 13:22 (twenty-two years ago)

twenty-two years pass...

Is the Camber Sands site any good?

― djh, Monday, 6 April 2026 07:45 (one week ago)

Pretty sure it's closed and totally abandoned? Still a nice beach of course.

― . (jamiesummerz), Monday, 6 April 2026 08:11 (one week ago)

So they don't do it down on Camber Sands anymore? Do they still do it in Waikiki?

(All of my England location knowledge comes from Python sketches and Squeeze songs.)

― Hideous Lump, Monday, 6 April 2026 13:05 (one week ago)

If by 'do' you mean heroin or crack, yes that probably do. Other than the beach it's a pretty grim place.

― . (jamiesummerz), Tuesday, 7 April 2026 07:31 (one week ago)

(All of my England location knowledge comes from Python sketches and Squeeze songs.)

― Hideous Lump, Monday, April 6, 2026 2:05 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

This inspired me to finally read the lyrics, I must admit there's a lot going on there that I had no idea about

― Cattedrale metropolitana di Santa Maria de Episcopio, Tuesday, 7 April 2026 14:53 (one week ago)

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