what's the main lad in orwell's 1984 called?

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for an essay on narrative technique; first person allegedly had greater insight but less vision. having roblems inthat i lack any factual knowledge in any subjects that interest me.

― matthew james (matthew james), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 11:37 (twenty-one years ago) link

Winston Smith.

― Lara (Lara), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 11:39 (twenty-one years ago) link

cheers! i'd have had to break down a flatmates door to get the information otherwise.

― matthew james (matthew james), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 11:40 (twenty-one years ago) link

ILE in 'more efficient than google(TM)' shockah!

― Archel (Archel), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 11:42 (twenty-one years ago) link

Do you normally break down his door when you have such questions?

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 11:49 (twenty-one years ago) link

google'd have taken me to some blog where a half-wit from a canadian university had put up his essay comparing 1984 to a fucking kevin smith film.

― matthew james (matthew james), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 11:49 (twenty-one years ago) link

i've broken his dor down before, but always in search of drugs, never books.

― matthew james (matthew james), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 11:50 (twenty-one years ago) link

Involved.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 11:51 (twenty-one years ago) link

But matthew, the bit in 'Clerks' where the guy dies on the toilet masturbating obviously parallels the helpless resignation of the 'proles' in the face of the all-encompassing propaganda machine of Big Brother, also in that the dignity of the only private spot where he could masturbate in peace (ie the toilet)(not to mention his lonely death) was betrayed in the end

― dave q, Wednesday, 2 April 2003 11:57 (twenty-one years ago) link

dave q, i'm quoting that. ile has new status as a periodical.

― matthew james (matthew james), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 12:12 (twenty-one years ago) link

Googling is easy!

Just put in, say, 1984 orwell hero

1984 - the book you are interested in
orwell - to make sure it's not just stuff about the year 1984
hero - because it's a more widely used term than 'main lad'

Look - you don't even have to click through the links.

― N. (nickdastoor), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 12:24 (twenty-one years ago) link

google'd have taken me to some blog where a half-wit from a canadian university had put up his essay comparing 1984 to a fucking kevin smith film.

I got an A on that paper, you know.

― mark p (Mark P), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 12:26 (twenty-one years ago) link

If you're looking for info this might be useful:

http://students.ou.edu/C/Kara.C.Chiodo-1/orwell.html#1984

― Lara (Lara), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 12:33 (twenty-one years ago) link

i'm not writing on 1984, it's coming up for air. if it was 1984, i'd have probalby tried to get a copy of the book which should point me to the information quicker than ile.
nick - temrinology such as 'main lad' are what lend my essays their naive charm.
ah, 'a nice cup of tea'! the greatest thing ever written on the english way of life. perhaps besides 'cigarettes and alcohol'.

― matthew james (matthew james), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 12:38 (twenty-one years ago) link

You could find some useful information on NARRATIVE TECHNIQUE, you ungrateful sod!

― Lara (Lara), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 12:40 (twenty-one years ago) link

i like 'main lad', it sounds funky.

i am the main lad in my house.

― g-kit (g-kit), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 12:48 (twenty-one years ago) link

yes that did sound very rude. apologies, wasn't intended that way. i'm just a little frantic. hence the absue of canadian kevin smith fans, who've never done me any personal or indirect harm.

― matthew james (matthew james), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 12:49 (twenty-one years ago) link

Oh but they have.

― Archel (Archel), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 12:50 (twenty-one years ago) link

I thought people said "main character", actually, but I live in New Zealand... "hero" just seems odd fom here, and not for any interesting reasons, just WOW I haven't seen anyone using that seriously unless it's Superman or something. Ever.

― Andrew Thames (Andrew Thames), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 12:52 (twenty-one years ago) link

Winston ain't no hero, he pussied out in the end. What's a fuckin' rat?

― q qordon liddy, Wednesday, 2 April 2003 12:55 (twenty-one years ago) link

it's one of those nice litte archaisms that can be wrote of endlessly wihtout getting anywere. sounds less cumberson that 'main charcter' and being necassary but imprecise, leaves you a lot to talk about.

― matthew james (matthew james), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 12:56 (twenty-one years ago) link

I'd always have said 'hero' meaning the principal male character rather than someone noted for feats of courage.

Go go essay, Matthew!

― Lara (Lara), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 13:04 (twenty-one years ago) link

The word is protagonist, when there is clearly one focus of the story.

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 15:37 (twenty-one years ago) link

I keep reading this as "the man laid." Weird.

― Rockist Scientist, Wednesday, 2 April 2003 15:52 (twenty-one years ago) link

to just add to dave q's point i thought one of the better parts in 1984 is winston's embarassment over the toilet arrangements in the detention cell.

― vahid (vahid), Thursday, 3 April 2003 00:45 (twenty-one years ago) link

ten years pass...

...

...

http://io9.com/someones-making-a-romantic-remake-of-1984-with-krist-1502156836

― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 15 January 2014 23:07 (ten years ago) link

willing to bet that the fkn hunger games movies are a damn sight more profound, insightful and subversive than whatever that turns out to be

― lovely cuddly fluffy dope (imago), Wednesday, 15 January 2014 23:14 (ten years ago) link

Equals is an adaptation of the 1956 film 1984, which itself was based on George Orwell's classic novel about rebellion in a futuristic society.

it's an adaptation of a film adaptation?

― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, 15 January 2014 23:52 (ten years ago) link

next up: james franco adapts 1959 yul brynner/joanne woodward version of 'the sound and the fury.'

― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, 15 January 2014 23:53 (ten years ago) link

if you adapt another film isn't that called a remake

― beef in the new era (wins), Wednesday, 15 January 2014 23:56 (ten years ago) link

main LAD

― UK Cop Humour (Bananaman Begins), Thursday, 16 January 2014 00:13 (ten years ago) link

Big Banter

― beef in the new era (wins), Thursday, 16 January 2014 00:14 (ten years ago) link

The great English mid-life crisis novel this, though. 40 yr old divorcee gets into political activism, moans about the government, starts sleeping with younger woman at work.

These ukip or fathers4justice types who give their comments box username as 'winston smith' are more right than we often realise.

― UK Cop Humour (Bananaman Begins), Thursday, 16 January 2014 00:17 (ten years ago) link

Oceania is at war with Eurmum

― UK Cop Humour (Bananaman Begins), Thursday, 16 January 2014 00:19 (ten years ago) link

this book has been responsible for alot of dumb political rhetoric in america, particularly among people who stopped reading after high school

― my collages, let me show you them (bernard snowy), Thursday, 16 January 2014 07:45 (ten years ago) link

Kristen Stewart is great, fuck this io9 guy

― Dolly Dilly Dally (soref), Thursday, 16 January 2014 07:50 (ten years ago) link

this book has been responsible for alot of dumb political rhetoric in america, particularly among people who stopped reading after high school

I was just trying to find the cover art that was on the version of this I read age 12 via GIS and half of the results are batshit rightwing cartoons/powerful conservative images

― Dolly Dilly Dally (soref), Thursday, 16 January 2014 07:59 (ten years ago) link

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